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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 12:29am
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Before posting this new thread, I did check out Canadians vs. Americans and it wasn't quite what I wanted. Also, I'm not clear that everyday people in Canada are any more aware of PA than everyday people in America.
What I wanted to do with this thread was develop a thread of questions and answers re everything re PA pertaining to Canadians. I understand that a PA person is that regardless of what country they live in. But, what resources do we have that we can access in Canada to purchase products, gather information etc. What about schools in Canada? Is it true that all Canadian children are allowed to carry their epipens whereas American children can't? (Actually, please see Chris' posting re this, which did need clarification)So back to - Is it true that all Canadian children are allowed to carry their epipens? I have posted in several other threads and had to ask for a Canadian site for purchasing products, etc. because although FAN seems to be fantastic, why go to the extra expense of converting to American $ etc. when you can possibly purchase the product in Canada. This is not in any way meant to be offensive to Americans and all other people from other countries that visit this site. It's simply trying to gather all Canadian information together on one thread, instead of having to do a search and go through each thread.

[This message has been edited by Cindy Spowart Cook (edited June 23, 2000).]

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 12:33am
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pMy first question would be, in Ontario, how do you get a "peanut free" school? Through working with my local school board (Simcoe County) I was able to have a "peanut free" classroom implemented for my son. But, I have noticed that Jeff (from Limestone City) in Ontario has posted that has daughter is in a "peanut free" school. How does this get done? Who do you contact? The school board?br /
The Ministry of Education for the province? I am also corresponding with a woman in Yellowknife and she says that all of the schools close to her there are "peanut free". So, why the difference?/p
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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 1:43am
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pI can only speak for Alberta, Canada. Mybr /
daughter is 4 years old. She will be starting school in the fall. I have had nobr /
problems at all with the school. They knowbr /
she has severe food allergies and peanutsbr /
and shellfish milk are the most serious forbr /
her. We were told you cannot test any higherbr /
than she does for these products as wellbr /
as wheat, and soya. She wears a medicialbr /
alert braclett and carries her epipen on herbr /
person at all times and has since she wasbr /
about 1 years old. When she starts schoolbr /
we will supply the office with a extra epipenbr /
and she will carry one on her person( whichbr /
the school is very much in favor of). Ibr /
personally search this web for information,br /
also the Anaphylatic Network of Canada, and [url="http://www.cadvision.com\allergy"]www.cadvision.com\allergy[/url] (this web sitebr /
is from Calgary Alberta. Most of the productsbr /
I have purchased re training vidio's epibr /
holders, books for children have been frombr /
these web sites. Hope this information helps./p

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 4:07am
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pKSP, my son is in JK and wears an epipen in a fanny pack each day at school. The school also has another epipen close at hand in case the ambulance doesn't arrive in time and his ventolin asthma puffers. The semantics of what we all do is not what I'm really looking for on this thread but the information you provided about the Calgary Allergy site (I checked it out yesterday, it's great) and other sites, policies, etc. that are specific to Canadians./p
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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 4:55am
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pI have recently had to hand out information to people (teachers) to help educate them re PA. I have found literature that I find suitable at [url="http://www.oma.org"]www.oma.org[/url] (OMA = Ontario Medical Association). You then click on site map, then health policy. The two articles are Peanut Allergy - What You Need To Know and Anaphylaxis in School. I have found that this information stresses the severity of the allergy and also helps the school understand what procedures should be put into place to deal with a PA student. I've also posted this information on another thread re links, I believe. I also meant to say that at the back of this literature, there is a list of people that contributed to the articles and the associations they are affiliated with and which are knowledgeable about PA./p
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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 9:37pm
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pTwo things..../p
pFirst, in the U.S. there is no general law saying children cannot carry their epi-pen with them. My 5 year old daughter in New York state will carry her's with her when she starts kindergarten next fall. I only mention this so American's reading your original post don't get the wrong idea./p
pSecond, check out Prince Edward's Island policy for anaphalytic children. It's a great policy that they have for every school district on the province (I'm going to present it to my daughter's school district this summer). I originally found the policy going through cadvision. If you have trouble finding it, I'll try and look for it./p

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 11:44pm
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pKatiesMom...I am glad you clarified the point about kids being allowed to carry their epipens. I am Canadian and I believed that american school children were not allowed to carry their meds because of the zero tolerance drug policy that so many areas have adopted. I didn't think it was country wide though and thought it was enforced by local decisions. We had considered moving to the States just after we found out about my daughters allergy. Because of the fact that she may not be allowed to carry her meds at school and also because of the price of medical insurance we had to factor this into our decision. I always like to hear what the actual similarities and differences are between our countries from REAL people and not the media...sometimes you get a very different perspective! Thanks for the info./p

Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 12:56am
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pKatiesMom, thank-you for your response. I looked back at my original posting and realized that I could have worked the carrying of the epipen differently - i.e., is it true country wide for Americans that they can't carry their meds with them? Thank-you for clarifying this for site users. I have heard of so many PA parents in the States running into this problem. Also, thank-you for recommending the P.E.I. policy. I'll definitely check into it myself. I really appreciate your information. I have heard from one parent in Ontario that since my son is the only PA student in his school, the I might have to "pave the way" for a "peanut safe" (I really like that wording) environment at school and have to deal with the school, school board, etc. myself re this issue as it does vary from school board to school board within our province. Sometimes you simply wish they had one policy in place province/state or country wise. But then, if we didn't like that policy....br /
Thanks again for your response and I apologize, I certainly did not mean to misinform anyone. I should have worded that more carefully./p
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Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 2:22am
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pCindy sent me an e mail asking me to check out this thread for her and her wording etc./p
pI wanted to let everyone know that many in the U.S do carry their own medications with them in school (Epi-Pens as well as some other medications, but mainly I am referring to Epi-Pens). Some schools even let the child carry even though it may not be allowed by the law in that state. As you know their are many caring, intelligent people out there! I hope we can continue to make progress in changing the laws that are keeping our children at risk! Many are working on changing the laws in their states so the Epi-Pens can be carried./p
pAlso we hear from people in Canada who are fighting with their schools so their children can carry their Epi-Pens. Not all parts of Canada are dealing with peanut allergy the same. I have talked with people who have moved from one area of Canada to another who were not happy to find out that the place they had moved to was way behind in dealing with peanut allergy compared to where they moved from. Some were shocked to see the differences, especially when going from the best conditions (which they were not aware they had) to the worst. /p
pKeep up the good work and keep on posting! You are helping thousands!/p
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Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 4:31am
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pHello! Perhaps I can give some direction for finding some of the items mentioned in previous posts on the Calgary Allergy Network site at [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy."]http://www.cadvision.com/allergy.[/url] (I am the web master).br /
Under Articles/School Related:br /
* Calgary Bd of Ed policy.br /
* Anaphylaxis in Schools and Other Childcare Settings - with updated contact information for the list in the back (the OMA site's contact info is outdated)br /
I am in the process of getting hold of a few more School Board policies.br /
* Why Don't We Just Ban Peanuts/Nuts at Schools?br /
Links page:br /
* PEI provincial school policy: Information Handbook on Anaphylactic Shock, 2nd Edition, 1997 ([url]http://www.gov.pe.ca/educ/publications/departmental.asp[/url])br /
Minister's Directive on their Anaphylaxis Policy (97-06)br /
([url]http://www.gov.pe.ca/educ/mindir/index.asp?year=1997dir=06[/url])br /
You can download a copy from the site. If you don't have Adobe Reader, you must download it first (it's free and there's a link to do it). The Handbook is about 29 pages long. Also, the Minister's Directive gives you an overview of what they're trying to do. Well worth the effort.br /
If you can't find something, please feel free to email me. Cheers! Nancy Wiebe/p

Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 7:14am
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pIn Simcoe County in Ontario (Simcoe County School Board), the principal is the person who decides, ultimately, if the school becomes "peanut safe" or not. Recently two schools in this district, in the City of Barrie did go "peanut safe" and when I questioned the gentleman at the Simcoe County Board of Education regarding this, the above is the answer I was given. Also, please remember, if you're posting new information on this thread that may affect PA people other than just Canadians, please try to post in the appropriate thread elsewhere too./p
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Posted on: Fri, 06/30/2000 - 1:18am
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pOur school board is developing a new policy around health issues. It is great for allergic kids! It will be in place by September I hope. We are in the Limestone School Board in Ontario./p
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Posted on: Fri, 06/30/2000 - 1:41am
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pKaren, it sounds like you're in the same place that Jeff who posts here is. I know his daughter has a peanut free school. Will you be receiving a "hard copy" of their policy? If so, I'm wondering if it's somehowbr /
possible for others (like me) to see it. I received yesterday the Simcoe County Board of Education's paperwork re implementing a "peanut free" classroom, but haven't looked at it yet, but will post any useful information I can from it under Schools and I guess this thread to./p

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pI will not get another look at the completed hard copy until September since it has to pass the board still. Some of the highlights were epi-pen training, proper hand washing, table washing, nut free common areas ie. outside,gym,library etc., children with anaphylaxis must not be in a portable,(my idea after my daughter was this year-no running water)info sheets posted with picture in office and staff rooms and eating areas, guidelines for school trips and many more great ideas./p
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Karalot/p

Posted on: Sat, 07/01/2000 - 3:55am
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pKaralot, I know it would be great for a lot of us if you are able to post the information when you do receive it. It can be difficult to do, but I'm sure that Chris at this site might be able to help you figure out how to post the information properly. I'd really like to see it though. When I look at my district's package, I'll try to post all info I can on the site, for information. It's so difficult without one policy for one province, where they vary from school board to school board. I find it overwhelming. It's too bad there wasn't a province/state wide policy or country wide policy regarding PA so it wasn't so confusing. Oh well./p
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Posted on: Mon, 07/03/2000 - 12:09am
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pSince this is supposed to a general thread on things Canadian, I'll mention a couple of items. We are in north Toronto area (Vaughan)./p
pSchools: Luckily we are able to send our 4.5yr old daughter to an excellent small private school (only 100 kids) that does not allow any nuts for snacks or lunch. They also have a hot lunch program where the restaurant that caters does not have any nuts in the restaurant. This works out great. They dont want her to carry her own epi, but again because its a small school, she literally only a few steps from one of her epi (one in classroom, one in office). /p
pIce Cream: Chapman's ice cream has many nut free ice creams available in Canada, and now even promote it in their advertisements in "Today's Parent" magazine (Cdn.) and now on their new website: [url="http://www.chapmans.on.ca"]www.chapmans.on.ca[/url]br /
Bravo Chapmans for your products and your promotion of nut free products!/p
pCake mixes: We have been using Betty Crocker cake mixes because of their great labelling (and accuracy thereof), and their nut free cakes. Duncan Hines needs some P.R. lessons and in Canada at least has one cake mix that ruins their perfect lines...a mix including mm's (plain). We suggested they use smarties instead (perhaps if many others do the same!). So for one little item (mm's) they ruin the whole line of cake mixes!/p
pSummer Camps: Here at the city of Vaughan, (and i'm sure there are many others too) they have a no nuts policy for their summer camp programs. This is our first year of sending her to camp and its good to know that its nut free (I know this is no guarantee, but at least its helps reduce the risk). They sent an entire page of info on the allergy with the package. It was refreshing to see./p
pI really do think that with these allergies on the rise, the great work of peanutallergy.com, and all of the associations out there, people really are becoming in tune with this situation and are becoming more tolerant, accepting, accomodating, and helpful with it. We need to keep on the awareness campaign with everyone we meet, and continue to demand safety for our children. So far, and its only been one year for our family, but generally its been fairly positive here in Canada with restaurants, schools, friends etc. Some large manufacturers however still need some lessons (especially their P.R. people)./p
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Posted on: Sat, 07/08/2000 - 3:22am
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pWow, this thread is dying off fast...I thought this would be a good long term thread. Where are all the Canadians? at the cottage?!!/p

Posted on: Sat, 07/08/2000 - 5:26am
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pRedtruck, I live permanently in what would be considered "cottage country". Perhaps your post though will encourage more of us to start posting again./p
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Posted on: Sat, 07/08/2000 - 11:36am
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pI was only kidding around about the cottage!/p

Posted on: Sat, 07/08/2000 - 11:50am
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pRedtruck, it was okay what you said about everyone being at the cottage. I was only kidding back! I watch this site almost daily and you can usually tell it's the week-end in particular because the posts seem to die down for a bit. I would like to see this thread continue with more Canadian info and again, am really hoping that your comment will get the thread going again. Maybe it's because a lot of the information we can post as Canadian can also be posted under other headings and we don't all have the time to post under different places. I know the other day, for example, I posted something in Media about National Post and I didn't bring it back in and post it in this thread. I realize now I should have./p
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Posted on: Sat, 07/08/2000 - 11:51am
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pPlease see my thread under Media for National Post - July 6, 2000 edition./p
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Posted on: Sun, 07/09/2000 - 4:28pm
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pThe link [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy"]www.cadvision.com/allergy[/url] has already been noted a couple of times above. I have checked it out only partially and so far only to do with PA (my children also have environmental allergies and asthma which they have information on too), but one link I found that I thought was okay was for The Anaphylaxis Network/Anaphylaxis Foundation of Canada at [url="http://www.anaphylaxis.org"]www.anaphylaxis.org[/url] You can actually register your PA child with them and receive e-mail alerts and further information from them. I thought this was another excellent resource tool available to us. But also again, I would like to say that [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy"]www.cadvision.com/allergy[/url] is a great starting place (and maybe finishing one - aside from posting on this site) for anyone trying to obtain Canadian information. The organization I have mentioned above was in their "links". I'm not clear if they accept registration of PA people from countries other than Canada, but I'm sure that that is something that could be easily checked if anyone is interested. I know that FAN will accept me as a member and they're American!/p
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Posted on: Sun, 07/09/2000 - 4:54pm
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predtruck, one thing I wanted to ask you, was your decision to place your daughter in private school rather than public anything to do with her PA? Also, if I had a red truck and knew how to drive, I wouldn't be in cottage country!/p
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Posted on: Mon, 07/10/2000 - 7:25am
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pCindy, my daughter started preschool at 2.5yrs at this private school...a whole year before we knew about her allergy. So we put her in there because its a great school, but an additional plus now is the no nut policy. In fact we are in the process of elaborating on this policy and I am on the committee to get the info out to parents in regular newsletters for next year.br /
The school also strongly encourages healthy snacks for snacktime... ie, no chocolates, very limited chips etc, and mostly fruit, veggies, cheese and crackers, yogurts etc. Parents bring these in from home, and thats where our newsletters will help influence what they bring in. I will have to put together a list of safe treats for September./p
pAlso, as mentioned, the fact that they have a hot lunch program with a caterer (whos daughter is also in the school, but not allergic) was a great plus when we found out about their no nut policy in their restaurant. And they serve healthy foods, not french fries and nuggets! Another plus./p
pSo far her JK year went well. Another pa child in the preschool did have a reaction when she went home after school...but we couldn't figure out where from? This would bother me the most, if my daughter has a reaction (which she hasnt had to date), and can't figure out where it originated!/p
pP.S. I do drive a redtruck for work!/p

Posted on: Mon, 07/10/2000 - 8:49am
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predtruck, I know that there is someone else posting that is looking for help compiling a safe snack list to provide to her school. Perhaps you could actually post your safe snack list on this site! Also, I'm wondering if you could tell me what type of information you provide to the school as my mission this summer is to accumulate information to show the principal/teacher at a meeting at the end of August and then they will help decide what information I will be able to present to the School Council and I also hope the Fundraising Committee (they're the worst as far as not being peanut aware, although very $ aware). Anyway, I would be interested in knowing what types of information you do provide. I was going to use the literature I pull off the OMA site. I was also going to go through the PEI education policy on PA which I finally got downloaded to-day to see how it differs from my school boards and also go into Chris' post under schools somewhere that says what PA parents should be able to expect from their schools. At any rate, any info you could provide would be most helpful to me and others. What I've been doing since yesterday, if I post something somewhere else, I just come in here and say "check this out under whatever Discussion it's under" rather than actually posting the whole message twice./p
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pCindy as soon as I compile the info, i'll be glad to post it. As i mentioned, they were already a nut free school before we got there and before we knew of my daughter's pa.br /
The parents seem to cooperate well, although there is the occasional treat or b-day treat that may contain traces. Fair enough i suppose, and the teacher checks everything Amanda eats from others (for b-days etc.). We keep a safe treat bag in teachers desk./p
pBut i will have to get crackin' on the safe snacks list for parents very soon. I can post the list here when i'm done.br /
I'll loook on other threads if there is a similar type list./p
pMy dilemma however is whether to be specific or more general. And if i'm specific, at what point am i comfortable? Read labels well and go with that, or call each manufacturer and check if they have Nuts in the facility, or nuts on the same line, or nearby... It can get rediculous and perhaps too extreme. Any suggestions?/p
pAs far as other info to present to your school, not sure if youre trying to convince them to go nut free or help formulate a policy with info. Our summer camp (put on by the City of Vaughan) put out a nice one pager of info on why no nuts or nut byproducts are allowed...i think i'll copy it and use it at our school./p

Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 2:02am
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pThis is becoming you're own little thread, Cindy and Redtruck, perhaps you could email each other and only put the important things on this link. Thanks/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 3:07am
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pI just wanted to add a brief message to this thread and maybe keep it going. I have a PA daughter who is 5. She just completed her first year of school in York Region (Newmarket ON) Our school try's to be Peanut Friendly. No guarantee. But the danger is everywhere so we are trying to teach her that she must be careful, never share snacks and always ask to have the label checked./p
p I also wanted to ask about allergy testing. We recently found out that the clinic where my daughter was tested is not run by an Allergist but by a GP with an interest in allergies. Has anyone else had this happen? Have you since seen an allergist? Was the testing any different?/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 3:21am
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predtruck, with the labeling we have "up here", I go by whether the label says "may contain". I do not call manufacturers to check to see if a product has been manufactured in the same plant as a peanut product. I consider this extreme despite my son's severe allergy. However, this all has to do with "comfort zones". Are there other PA children involved that would be affected by your Safe Snacks lists? Perhaps you could speak with the other PA parents and see how they deal with it and somehow incorporate everyone's philosophy into it. I just know that if you called every manufacturer to see if peanuts were in the plant, our children wouldn't be able to eat anything! Christie's, who I really like as a manufacturer and feel quite safe with do run peanut lines in their facility in south Toronto but with our labeling so clear, I'm quite comfortable buying Triscuits, almost all of the Oreos, almost all of the Chips Ahoy and almost all of The Ritz. Morgansmom, I know you're only joking. If you actually read the posts between redtruck and I, you can see that they contain Canadian pertinent information. MeganC, I have not had my son allergy tested. I simply haven't had to with regard to PA. However, PeanutKate has posted somewhere on this site, a list of good allergists in Ontario. If you can find that post it may be of some assistance to you. I know that I do have to have my daughter (nearly 3) tested before she goes to school, so I'm probably going to have both children tested together for all allergies. The information PeanutKate provided was excellent! It's just a matter of finding it!/p
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pI tend to agree Cindy on the labelling issue...one can go too far and too exteme and get so wrapped up into it that, like you said, end up banning almost everything on grocery shelves. Eg. someone at the ministry of agriculture told my wife this week about some poor labelling, such as all President's Choice products, who are sqeezed so much by Loblaw's that manufacturers change rapidly and labelling cannot be guaranteed. Comfort zones...yes that sums it up./p
pmorgansmom, i trust you really were just kidding around, so i won't address your comment any further./p
pAllergists are probably the best place to have your child tested. We originally used one in Richmond Hill, but werent too happy with him (not his testing, but his overall "bedside manner" and info he provided), and then we retested with another one that was highly recommended in Toronto. If you need any names, email me./p

Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 2:51pm
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pPlease see under Schools - new post re Ontario, Canada, Ministry of Education Letter. A sad commentary on the province of Ontario compared to that of P.E.I.!/p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 2:54pm
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pAdditional information about life-threatening allergies and their management may be obtained from the Allergy Asthma Information Association at [email]AAIA.national@sympatico.ca[/email]/p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 3:28pm
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pPlease see thread under Main Discussions re Adult Epi for 5 year old. My LAST post has information from manufacturers of EpiPen and EpiPen Jr. in Canada and their cut-off weight. The cut-off weight for an Epipen Jr. to an EpiPen is 33 POUNDS (some people thought I was getting pounds confused with kg. but just because I'm Canadian doesn't mean I understand the kg. thing). At any rate, there is a post there that hopefully clarifies something I ended up questioning for days and yet originally knew the answer for anyway (from the doctor and pharmacy, not myself)./p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/11/2000 - 4:30pm
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pCheck out under Labeling new thread titled Canadian Labeling. I'm getting really confused and a bit concerned but I'm also fairly clear that we are labeling differently and more clearly. I also know that I posted somewhere on this site, information on what exactly was to be looked for when looking at labels in Canada re food, but I forget what thread I was in. Help!/p
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Posted on: Fri, 07/14/2000 - 4:35pm
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pCheck out [url="http://www.nuconnexions.com"]www.nuconnexions.com[/url] to see whether major manufactuers are labeling their products correctly or not. I was under the false impression that Canadian manufacturers were legally required to label their products correctly and attach the "may contain" label to products when they were run on the same line that a peanut product had previously been run on. This is untrue. It is up to the manufacturer whether they put labeling on or not. Great, eh? (and what would a Canadian thread be without the word eh?). Anyway, the site mentioned above has a really good start for both Canadian and American labeling and questions./p
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Posted on: Sun, 07/16/2000 - 4:37pm
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pYES I AM CANANDIANbr /
hi redtuck,hi cindy,br /
I was just reading the feed back on the 'may contain'posting .Presidents choice...I guess thats not a safe product to buy.That blows me away because my cuboard is sometimes filled with their products{macarnoi and cheese,crackers etc.}br /
I'd also like to mention that my daughter is not old enough for school yet but I am going to mabye look for preshcool which will be fun because most that I have called told me she can eat in a different room and she should stay home when there is a party with home brought teats.Well I don't think so.How about a peanut free daycare at a gym.I have tried several recenters and they alow snacks.One that I did mention the problem with allergies to did put a sign on their door that they should TRY to avoid bringing peanuts into the room.Getting there I guess.....ka I'll stop yapping.br /
Tania/p

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pI should really check my typing before I send these threads off..sorrey,how silly/p

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pTaniaN, welcome to the Canadian thread! It isn't meant to insult anyone from other countries but to try to get all Canadian information gathered together. redtruck thought the thread was dying out but simply by posting that, I think it started it's life again. I did have my son, when we were in Toronto, in a "pre-school" type class where he went for 8 Saturdays or something in a row. I simply advised them beforehand of his allergy and made sure that he had his epipen with him. He was 2-1/2 at the time. We never experienced any problems. But, since that time, he has had 2 more severe reactions so our "comfort zones" have also changed. He has now just finished JK and I was basically ignorant on how to deal with the school when I went in for my meeting last fall. I went over the emergency procedure and what to look for in a reaction. I worked really closely with his teacher. This summer, I have to gather all educational information I can to present to the principal, School Council and probably Fundraising Committee. It seems to get more complicated as they first venture out into the world and then hopefully it settles down a bit again. I'm fortunate re the labeling thing that I usually always buy regular brand stuff, i.e., Kelloggs, etc. I've never considered the store brand products "safe" and yet, have not had a reason not to except that many of them did have "may contain" on their labels. Now, it's a whole new thought process I'm going through and I'm trying to figure out if I have to contact all manufacturers that I buy food from to see what their actual policy re labeling is. To tell you the truth, I find it overwhelming and I really don't feel like doing it. That must sound awful! redtruck has posted a really good response, I think on one of your threads re "may contain peanuts" about containing our M.P.'s and I think that will be my next letter to write. I was under the false assumption that manufacturers, in Canada, were legally required to label their products "properly". And, I've been under that assumption for nearly 3 years now. I am not pleased. At any rate, if you check out the [url="http://www.nuconnexions.com"]www.nuconnexions.com[/url] site, you'll find information regarding the different companies, including grocery store chains and perhaps you'll find your info re Loblaw no name food right there. Also, this thread isn't meant to keep us separate from other people. I find that I often post info on other threads and then think that I should have posted it here too because it was specifically Canadian pertinent. Anyway, you never need to apologize for spelling, etc. and certainly not for going on too long. Look at the number of posts I have and they haven't asked me to remove myself from the list yet! Although I do have this paranoid thing happening that I think if people see my name posted beside a post they won't read it because they know they'll be in for a long missive. At any rate, welcome. I've found the site, although sometimes overwhelming and addictive, very support, and I have made contacts with people that have helped me deal with different things that come up re PA that no one else seems to understand. It's a great site!/p
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Posted on: Mon, 07/17/2000 - 3:24am
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pCindy, Thanks for the link to the Nu Connexions. Very useful inforamtion. I just was reading it and had to post that McDonnalds McFlurry's are no longer considered Safe. (I could just cry..its a special treat we've been giving our Daughter after her soccer games.) This is what's stated on their site "McFlurry products in Canada are no longer consideredbr /
"nut-safe" as an icecream alternative, as the boxes containing the ingredients mixed with the frozen yogurt state that they are packed in a facility that processes nuts." This was updated May 2000.br /
This information is wrong..Please see Message below... /p
p[This message has been edited by MeganC (edited July 18, 2000).]/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 1:38am
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pHi All, /p
pFirst timer here.br /
I also live in Canada, Mississauga./p
pI just wanted to let you know that I called the McDonald's head office here in Toronto at 416- 443-1000. and asked them about the ice cream. The Customer Relations Department supervisor told me "the ice cream is safe for PA people and that it is manufactured in a milk plant - as long as you can drink milk you can have the ice cream. As well, she mentioned they do not sell frozen yogurt - the product they sell is frozen ice milk. This was the first time she heard the rumour that it was unsafe./p
pI would suggest if you still want to set your mind at ease that you give them a call - I prefer to speak to the headoffice as opposed to the individual store managers./p
pBy the way - does anyone know of any PA support groups in Mississauga???/p
pThanks -/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 2:18am
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pBaby Bri's Mom, there is a Support Group heading in the discussion groups. I don't think I've checked it out thoroughly simply because I know there wouldn't be a support group where I am in Stayner. Also, welcome!br /
I find that I use this site as my support group because I can use it any time day or night and I have found much information, support, caring, encouragement, etc. on this site that I haven't found elsewhere./p
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pHello! Not sure about Mississauga but are some in Hamilton and Toronto for sure! There is a lady on here named Kathryn that could give you the info for the Hamilton one, they meet every six weeks if you don't mind the travel./p

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pThanks for the info about the McFullers. I should have contact McDonalds myself before making my last posting. I have since contacted McDonalds and I got the same info. McFlurrers are safe. Boy do I fell silly. I have also sent an E-mail to the Nu Connexions people. Hopefully they will update their site also./p

Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 2:47am
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pMeganC, I wouldn't feel silly about posting information that was incorrect. You got it from the source that is supposed to be keeping up-to-date on Canadian labeling as far as [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy"]www.cadvision.com/allergy[/url] is concerned and as far as Steve at [url="http://www.nuconnexions.com"]www.nuconnexions.com[/url] probably feels too. It's really positive that you e-mailed him the correct information. If you feel silly about this, I should definitely feel something worse for posting totally false information on the "may contain peanuts" thread. I thought that manufacturers in Canada were legally required to put the "may contain" label on products and then found out, only through that thread, that they're not! You can imagine how absolutely awful I felt to have posted incorrect information. But, I'm also glad because it clarified the situation re labeling and I now have figured out how to deal with it. Never feel silly in here, we are all trying to wade through piles of information, a barrage of information if you will, and figure out what works for us and our children and lead normal lives at the same time! It was good of you to come back in and post the correct information when you found it and also good that you contact [url="http://www.nuconnexions.com"]www.nuconnexions.com[/url] so Steve can up-date his site. That's more than a lot of people would have done./p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 4:03am
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pNova Scotia - Department of Education - "individual school boards and schools develop their own policy on the issue". Again, another province that is not as progressive as the province of P.E.I./p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 6:43am
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pI have not written a formal letter to my MP, I spoke to him in person. However, we can draft a letter that is simple, informative, clear and concise./p
pI'll start working on one this week, and then we can post it. For suggestions or comments, please email me!/p

Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 2:26pm
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pPlease see under Schools - Prince Edward Island Province Wide Policy. It's absolutely fantastic!/p
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Posted on: Tue, 07/18/2000 - 3:29pm
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pI just found an excellent article in the Canadian magazine "Today's Parent". It is in the December/January 2000 issue, and it's called "Nut Case - Has Peanut Paranoia Gone Too Far?" by Dinah Clarkson. Once I find out how to receive back issues of this article I will post it on the Media thread. Meantime, it includes some excellent resources regarding PA in schools, which I will list here:/p
pAnaphylaxis: A Handbook for School Boards. To order a copy e-mail at [email]admin@cdnsba.org[/email] or phone CSBA in Ottawa at 613-235-3724/p
pAnaphylaxis in Schools and Other Child Care Settings. This report is available online at [url="http://www.oma.org:70/phealth/allergy.htm"]www.oma.org:70/phealth/allergy.htm[/url] or phone the Allergy Asthma Immunology Society of Ontario at 416-633-3108/p

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pbaby bri's mom,Hi ,I think you are right about that.We've been eating icecream from mc donalds for so long I don't know what I would tell my daughter if she couldn't have one{or myself]I'm going to double check again though just so I know for sure.br /
Not to change the subject but I had seen a icecream in the IGA last night called Ben and Jerrys {since 1998}.they had no may contain on the lable but did have ome that contained peanut.I called them about it and they said it was because they feel their products are safe,schedualing is done to see there is no cross contamination so they can clean their machines and they feel their products are safe for everyone.I told him I don't feel safe giving my daughter any thing in the same line as a peanut and wouldn't buy any.I asked why they we're not lable may contain and he said the same thing ,that they feel it is safe. So anyway hope that the mc donalds posting about nuts is wrong......thx/p

Posted on: Wed, 07/19/2000 - 1:39am
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pCayley's Mom, I did see the Today's Parent article you've mentioned. They did have some good contacts at the end of the article. It would be really good if you posted it under Media. Personally, I thought the article was okay because it was extremely well balanced and showed different parents' "comfort zones"br /
but I was extremely offended by some of the wording they used. I did pass the magazine on though to someone to help educate them re PA so it must have been okay. I've actually been trying to get in touch with them for about a month re said article to find out who the contacts were at the end of the article.br /
If you could post those even, if would be great./p
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pCindy, I listed the contacts at the end of the Today's Parent article above, in my post. The other contact was the Calgary Allergy Network, [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy"]www.cadvision.com/allergy[/url] which I have already seen posted several times./p

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