Canadians

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 12:29am
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Before posting this new thread, I did check out Canadians vs. Americans and it wasn't quite what I wanted. Also, I'm not clear that everyday people in Canada are any more aware of PA than everyday people in America.
What I wanted to do with this thread was develop a thread of questions and answers re everything re PA pertaining to Canadians. I understand that a PA person is that regardless of what country they live in. But, what resources do we have that we can access in Canada to purchase products, gather information etc. What about schools in Canada? Is it true that all Canadian children are allowed to carry their epipens whereas American children can't? (Actually, please see Chris' posting re this, which did need clarification)So back to - Is it true that all Canadian children are allowed to carry their epipens? I have posted in several other threads and had to ask for a Canadian site for purchasing products, etc. because although FAN seems to be fantastic, why go to the extra expense of converting to American $ etc. when you can possibly purchase the product in Canada. This is not in any way meant to be offensive to Americans and all other people from other countries that visit this site. It's simply trying to gather all Canadian information together on one thread, instead of having to do a search and go through each thread.

[This message has been edited by Cindy Spowart Cook (edited June 23, 2000).]

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 12:33am
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pMy first question would be, in Ontario, how do you get a "peanut free" school? Through working with my local school board (Simcoe County) I was able to have a "peanut free" classroom implemented for my son. But, I have noticed that Jeff (from Limestone City) in Ontario has posted that has daughter is in a "peanut free" school. How does this get done? Who do you contact? The school board?br /
The Ministry of Education for the province? I am also corresponding with a woman in Yellowknife and she says that all of the schools close to her there are "peanut free". So, why the difference?/p
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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 1:43am
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pI can only speak for Alberta, Canada. Mybr /
daughter is 4 years old. She will be starting school in the fall. I have had nobr /
problems at all with the school. They knowbr /
she has severe food allergies and peanutsbr /
and shellfish milk are the most serious forbr /
her. We were told you cannot test any higherbr /
than she does for these products as wellbr /
as wheat, and soya. She wears a medicialbr /
alert braclett and carries her epipen on herbr /
person at all times and has since she wasbr /
about 1 years old. When she starts schoolbr /
we will supply the office with a extra epipenbr /
and she will carry one on her person( whichbr /
the school is very much in favor of). Ibr /
personally search this web for information,br /
also the Anaphylatic Network of Canada, and [url="http://www.cadvision.com\allergy"]www.cadvision.com\allergy[/url] (this web sitebr /
is from Calgary Alberta. Most of the productsbr /
I have purchased re training vidio's epibr /
holders, books for children have been frombr /
these web sites. Hope this information helps./p

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 4:07am
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pKSP, my son is in JK and wears an epipen in a fanny pack each day at school. The school also has another epipen close at hand in case the ambulance doesn't arrive in time and his ventolin asthma puffers. The semantics of what we all do is not what I'm really looking for on this thread but the information you provided about the Calgary Allergy site (I checked it out yesterday, it's great) and other sites, policies, etc. that are specific to Canadians./p
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Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 4:55am
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pI have recently had to hand out information to people (teachers) to help educate them re PA. I have found literature that I find suitable at [url="http://www.oma.org"]www.oma.org[/url] (OMA = Ontario Medical Association). You then click on site map, then health policy. The two articles are Peanut Allergy - What You Need To Know and Anaphylaxis in School. I have found that this information stresses the severity of the allergy and also helps the school understand what procedures should be put into place to deal with a PA student. I've also posted this information on another thread re links, I believe. I also meant to say that at the back of this literature, there is a list of people that contributed to the articles and the associations they are affiliated with and which are knowledgeable about PA./p
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p[This message has been edited by Cindy Spowart Cook (edited June 22, 2000).]/p

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 9:37pm
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pTwo things..../p
pFirst, in the U.S. there is no general law saying children cannot carry their epi-pen with them. My 5 year old daughter in New York state will carry her's with her when she starts kindergarten next fall. I only mention this so American's reading your original post don't get the wrong idea./p
pSecond, check out Prince Edward's Island policy for anaphalytic children. It's a great policy that they have for every school district on the province (I'm going to present it to my daughter's school district this summer). I originally found the policy going through cadvision. If you have trouble finding it, I'll try and look for it./p

Posted on: Thu, 06/22/2000 - 11:44pm
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pKatiesMom...I am glad you clarified the point about kids being allowed to carry their epipens. I am Canadian and I believed that american school children were not allowed to carry their meds because of the zero tolerance drug policy that so many areas have adopted. I didn't think it was country wide though and thought it was enforced by local decisions. We had considered moving to the States just after we found out about my daughters allergy. Because of the fact that she may not be allowed to carry her meds at school and also because of the price of medical insurance we had to factor this into our decision. I always like to hear what the actual similarities and differences are between our countries from REAL people and not the media...sometimes you get a very different perspective! Thanks for the info./p

Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 12:56am
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pKatiesMom, thank-you for your response. I looked back at my original posting and realized that I could have worked the carrying of the epipen differently - i.e., is it true country wide for Americans that they can't carry their meds with them? Thank-you for clarifying this for site users. I have heard of so many PA parents in the States running into this problem. Also, thank-you for recommending the P.E.I. policy. I'll definitely check into it myself. I really appreciate your information. I have heard from one parent in Ontario that since my son is the only PA student in his school, the I might have to "pave the way" for a "peanut safe" (I really like that wording) environment at school and have to deal with the school, school board, etc. myself re this issue as it does vary from school board to school board within our province. Sometimes you simply wish they had one policy in place province/state or country wise. But then, if we didn't like that policy....br /
Thanks again for your response and I apologize, I certainly did not mean to misinform anyone. I should have worded that more carefully./p
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Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 2:22am
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pCindy sent me an e mail asking me to check out this thread for her and her wording etc./p
pI wanted to let everyone know that many in the U.S do carry their own medications with them in school (Epi-Pens as well as some other medications, but mainly I am referring to Epi-Pens). Some schools even let the child carry even though it may not be allowed by the law in that state. As you know their are many caring, intelligent people out there! I hope we can continue to make progress in changing the laws that are keeping our children at risk! Many are working on changing the laws in their states so the Epi-Pens can be carried./p
pAlso we hear from people in Canada who are fighting with their schools so their children can carry their Epi-Pens. Not all parts of Canada are dealing with peanut allergy the same. I have talked with people who have moved from one area of Canada to another who were not happy to find out that the place they had moved to was way behind in dealing with peanut allergy compared to where they moved from. Some were shocked to see the differences, especially when going from the best conditions (which they were not aware they had) to the worst. /p
pKeep up the good work and keep on posting! You are helping thousands!/p
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Stay Safe,/p
p [email]"Chris@PeanutAllergy.Com"[/email]/p

Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 4:31am
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pHello! Perhaps I can give some direction for finding some of the items mentioned in previous posts on the Calgary Allergy Network site at [url="http://www.cadvision.com/allergy."]http://www.cadvision.com/allergy.[/url] (I am the web master).br /
Under Articles/School Related:br /
* Calgary Bd of Ed policy.br /
* Anaphylaxis in Schools and Other Childcare Settings - with updated contact information for the list in the back (the OMA site's contact info is outdated)br /
I am in the process of getting hold of a few more School Board policies.br /
* Why Don't We Just Ban Peanuts/Nuts at Schools?br /
Links page:br /
* PEI provincial school policy: Information Handbook on Anaphylactic Shock, 2nd Edition, 1997 ([url]http://www.gov.pe.ca/educ/publications/departmental.asp[/url])br /
Minister's Directive on their Anaphylaxis Policy (97-06)br /
([url]http://www.gov.pe.ca/educ/mindir/index.asp?year=1997dir=06[/url])br /
You can download a copy from the site. If you don't have Adobe Reader, you must download it first (it's free and there's a link to do it). The Handbook is about 29 pages long. Also, the Minister's Directive gives you an overview of what they're trying to do. Well worth the effort.br /
If you can't find something, please feel free to email me. Cheers! Nancy Wiebe/p

Posted on: Fri, 06/23/2000 - 7:14am
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pIn Simcoe County in Ontario (Simcoe County School Board), the principal is the person who decides, ultimately, if the school becomes "peanut safe" or not. Recently two schools in this district, in the City of Barrie did go "peanut safe" and when I questioned the gentleman at the Simcoe County Board of Education regarding this, the above is the answer I was given. Also, please remember, if you're posting new information on this thread that may affect PA people other than just Canadians, please try to post in the appropriate thread elsewhere too./p
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