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Posted on: Wed, 12/03/2003 - 1:19am
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Quote:Originally posted by Alternative to Mainstream:
[b] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img]
Also, what I found interesting is that you can send homemade stuff into the U.S. still without a problem. Why is homemade stuff not considered a security risk? [/b]
Yes.. it doesn't make sense. A terrorist in Iraq could bake a homemade cake filled with ebola virus and send it in the USA, but I can't send a box of Smarties to my friend in Walla Walla for their personal use - my Smarties are more of a risk?
It doesn't make any sense. I don't see how my box of Smarties could be a risk to the American public, since it is only my friend who will eat them. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 12/03/2003 - 3:06am
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Joined: 11/02/2000 - 09:00

Hmmmmmmmm .......
If I take all the Smarties out of their original case, and put them in my own, smartly-decorated box ...
Can I call that a [i][b]HOMEMADE [/i][/b]item now?
Just a thought ......

Posted on: Wed, 12/03/2003 - 4:00am
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Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by teacher:
[b]Hmmmmmmmm .......
If I take all the Smarties out of their original case, and put them in my own, smartly-decorated box ...
Can I call that a [i][b]HOMEMADE [/i][/b]item now?
it sounds homemade to me... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 12/03/2003 - 4:33am
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Heck, sounds homemade to me if you buy a tin at the dollar store and dump them all in it without doing any decorating yourself! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
See, that's what doesn't make sense. Why can homemade foods still go in and pre-packaged ones not.
I could see if this had come from somewhere, like a business association where say Nestle USA was ticked off that Nestle Canada was getting so much American business or that Hershey U.S. was upset that Americans were getting "safe" KitKat. If it was affecting their businesses.
I just cannot, for the life of me, understand how this is a Homeland Security *issue*.
Extending it further from the Smarties thing again, even if you send medication into America, it's sealed, so there is no way that you could taint the product in any way. Again, as erik pointed out, easier to taint something homemade.
I wonder after the 12th if it's possible to even list something as a gift without being extremely specific about what it is. And the thing is, are they going to check each and every package entering America?
As I posted above, I've received Frosted Flakes from the States packed in with clothing and Sixlets.
And what is you did just place clothing on the label? Again, are they going to be checking each and every package?
My aged brain does remember now when I shipped Smarties into the U.S. I either put gift or candy. It would be the candy wording that would be a caution for them now, but I have used the word gift before as well without being any more specific than the value of said gift (and the value is always less than what it actually is as well).
erik, it may be time for you to re-raise your Panhandle Premium thread and though I have expounded the virtues of this particular thread because of the personal-ness of it, it does really look dead unless someone wants to chance writing something like gift on it.
The thing with the chocolate bars is if the package was shaken at the border (I don't know if border people do that) they wouldn't even be suspect. Smarties and medications, of course, sound different.
I'm actually quite ticked off. And I'm not an American. My children can easily go across the street and get some safe Smarties.
Oh well. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 12/03/2003 - 10:14am
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Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

It was the "homemade" section that seemed like the biggest loophole. I was just thinking the combination of exceptions might cover the sending of some candy for personal consumption, especially id homemade things are okay. becca

Posted on: Thu, 12/04/2003 - 1:50am
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becca, I see where you're coming from, but would the FDA? For example, as teacher suggested, if she bought the Smarties requested and dumped them in a decorated tin, would they be considered homemade? Take that further? I don't even bother to take them out of their boxes but place them in a tin and say they're homemade. How are they honestly going to know if someone has taken a pre-packaged item and declared it homemade? And are they going to be checking every thing that goes across the border? And are we Canadians doing the same (I understand that we don't have the terrorist threat that the U.S. lives under)?
Because that really ticks me off [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img] I can still get "safe" American candy, which is rarer than "safe" Canadian candy, but my American friends can't.
Does anyone know what that line means that I needed help with out of what becca posted before?
And when you go to the post office and say something is homemade, what else do you have to say? It just seems like a big run around to me.
Actually, it would be interesting, if anyone who ships ANYTHING across the borders this year for Christmas, posts and says if the paperwork was any different for whatever they sent, be it clothes, food, whatever. I have to go to the post office probably early next week now so I may check with them and see if they have paperwork on the new requirements and if it's not busy and I don't have the munchkins with me, maybe I'll ask the Canada Post representative a few questions.
Actually, Canada Post can be contacted on-line and asked questions (I remember when I wanted to Epi-pen the Pillsbury Dough Boy I contacted them on-line with my query), so they might be a good starting place for us Canadians.
And again, American friends, you need to be in an uproar about this. I realize it's only candy, but still!
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 12/09/2003 - 9:08am
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I did speak with a Canada Post representative to-day and although they do not have official literature re this yet, it is considered now a "dangerous good" and falls under that section of their mailing requirements.
I explained to the woman at the counter (the poor things, besieged by people that can't stamp their own Christmas cards, and I don't mean elderly people) why I was asking. She said that they should be coming out with some specific literature soon.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 12/09/2003 - 2:58pm
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Joined: 11/14/2000 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by MarbleEye:
who? what? where? |:~)[/b]
[i]MarbleEye[/i]? Honestly guys this is getting crazy....how many user names can someone have???? Every time I go in a thread I see a new name....I don't know who the heck is who anymore...If we all do this there will be a hundred new user names in no time!!!!!!!!!!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 12/10/2003 - 2:31am
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Joined: 01/10/2000 - 09:00

Hi- does anyone know if these new guidelines would include me running over to Canada to buy safe food and bringing back in the US? Or is this just regarding mail? Kelly

Posted on: Wed, 12/10/2003 - 2:55am
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Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

Hi Kay,
From what I have read, you are allowed to bring food over the border that you carry yourself for your personal use/friends/etc.
It is only when being sent throught the mail that this applies. The U.S. Department of Homeland Security considers the Nestle Kit Kat bar (as an example) to be a threat for some bizarre unexplained reason. I can see placing restrictions if food is being sent into the USA to be sold in a store for the public to buy, but when it's being sent as a personal gift to a friend, where is the risk to the US public?
Aren't there more important issues for them to worry about.. like airport security?? container port security? etc


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