extent of precautions?

Posted on: Fri, 09/08/2017 - 2:36am
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I have a severe peanut allergy, so my family has given up eating any peanut products. I send my kids to school with almond butter or sunbutter sandwiches. My daughter brought home her sunbutter snadwich the other day and said she can't eat it cause there is a kid in her class with anallergy to sunflower seeds. I then said I'd give her almond butter and she replied that someone is allergic to almonds.
At this point I am very frustrated. I know how it is, having a peanut allergy, but I told her that even though she is thoughtful of others ... SHE NEEDS TO EAT!!!! I told her she needs to just remove herself and eat seperately or at a time that she's not with that student. Then wash her hands with soap and she could even wash her mouth and brush her teeth before she sees that student.
Don't you think these precautions are sufficient?
I feel she needs to learn how to take care of her own needs while respecting the needs of others. NOT throw her needs out. She CAN safely eat a food that causes allergic reactions to others, if she is mindful. And she onviously already is.

Posted on: Mon, 09/09/2013 - 9:28am
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Unless she is eating completely away... its not to mindful... think of it like this... if she had a peanut allergy would you be ok with another kid eating a PB&J sandwich? I have a daughter who is airborne allergic to peanuts so it would not be safe for her no matter what. Her room is peanut free. They make a product called WOWButter that is completely allergen safe. For you, for the kids in her class and usually less expensive then Sunbutter (Which we use for my daughter as well). All I am saying is there are other options that would not put any kid in danger and still not getting rid of her needs. We teach our daughter compromise. Safe for everyone.
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Posted on: Mon, 09/09/2013 - 12:23pm
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Is eating that type of sandwich that important when there are so many other options??

Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 3:06am
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Hi jeramy,
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Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 2:20pm
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Hello, thanks for posting this... I am a mom who has a son who is allergic to peanuts and tree nuts. I am actually puzzled as to why you would send your child to school with Almond Butter, knowing that there are children who are severely allergic to nuts- and can potentially die. Especially when you have a peanut allergy of your own. If it was your child with the peanut/nut allergy, would you want others to bring it in? And how old are we talking? My son just turned 5 and is in Kindergarten this year. Kids are very messy and get sticky peanut butter everywhere, and I am not convinced that everyone washes their hands after lunch. I am petrified to leave him at school, just knowing that peanut butter/nut butters are allowed during lunch. Your daughter seems like a very sensitive, thoughtful young girl.

Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 2:51pm
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I always asked, when my kids were younger, if almonds were a problem. In my son's small school they were not. That's why he got almond butter. My daughter is a senior in HS. Totally different set of guidelines. And for her it's sunbutter. Never heard of anyone having a sunbutter allergy and the school states that no one is on record for having one.
And actually, there aren't many other options for my daughter. No gluten, no meats, no dairy, no eggs, no soy (all medically necessary) and a mouth full of braces which limits a lot too.
Folks I have a peanut allergy, I understand. But when your kid is 17 and around other kids they are then in charge of their conduct in their world. I am trying to be mindful. That is why we switched to sunbutter. (Widely promoted on this site btw!) All i asked...which no one answered...you just yelled at me... do you consider it safe enough if someone eating a food you are allergic to is nowhere near you, as in another part of the building, then washes their hands and mouth and brushes their teeth before stepping in the same room with you...do you consider this safe? It should be. So, please instead of trying to yell at me about using sun butter (or almond butter), could you please just tell me if these precautions are in line with the ones you all follow. Thank you!

Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 2:51pm
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I always asked, when my kids were younger, if almonds were a problem. In my son's small school they were not. That's why he got almond butter. My daughter is a senior in HS. Totally different set of guidelines. And for her it's sunbutter. Never heard of anyone having a sunbutter allergy and the school states that no one is on record for having one.
And actually, there aren't many other options for my daughter. No gluten, no meats, no dairy, no eggs, no soy (all medically necessary) and a mouth full of braces which limits a lot too.
Folks I have a peanut allergy, I understand. But when your kid is 17 and around other kids they are then in charge of their conduct in their world. I am trying to be mindful. That is why we switched to sunbutter. (Widely promoted on this site btw!) All i asked...which no one answered...you just yelled at me... do you consider it safe enough if someone eating a food you are allergic to is nowhere near you, as in another part of the building, then washes their hands and mouth and brushes their teeth before stepping in the same room with you...do you consider this safe? It should be. So, please instead of trying to yell at me about using sun butter (or almond butter), could you please just tell me if these precautions are in line with the ones you all follow. Thank you!

Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 2:51pm
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I always asked, when my kids were younger, if almonds were a problem. In my son's small school they were not. That's why he got almond butter. My daughter is a senior in HS. Totally different set of guidelines. And for her it's sunbutter. Never heard of anyone having a sunbutter allergy and the school states that no one is on record for having one.
And actually, there aren't many other options for my daughter. No gluten, no meats, no dairy, no eggs, no soy (all medically necessary) and a mouth full of braces which limits a lot too.
Folks I have a peanut allergy, I understand. But when your kid is 17 and around other kids they are then in charge of their conduct in their world. I am trying to be mindful. That is why we switched to sunbutter. (Widely promoted on this site btw!) All i asked...which no one answered...you just yelled at me... do you consider it safe enough if someone eating a food you are allergic to is nowhere near you, as in another part of the building, then washes their hands and mouth and brushes their teeth before stepping in the same room with you...do you consider this safe? It should be. So, please instead of trying to yell at me about using sun butter (or almond butter), could you please just tell me if these precautions are in line with the ones you all follow. Thank you!

Posted on: Wed, 09/11/2013 - 2:50pm
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I always asked, when my kids were younger, if almonds were a problem. In my son's small school they were not. That's why he got almond butter. My daughter is a senior in HS. Totally different set of guidelines. And for her it's sunbutter. Never heard of anyone having a sunbutter allergy and the school states that no one is on record for having one.
And actually, there aren't many other options for my daughter. No gluten, no meats, no dairy, no eggs, no soy (all medically necessary) and a mouth full of braces which limits a lot too.
Folks I have a peanut allergy, I understand. But when your kid is 17 and around other kids they are then in charge of their conduct in their world. I am trying to be mindful. That is why we switched to sunbutter. (Widely promoted on this site btw!) All i asked...which no one answered...you just yelled at me... do you consider it safe enough if someone eating a food you are allergic to is nowhere near you, as in another part of the building, then washes their hands and mouth and brushes their teeth before stepping in the same room with you...do you consider this safe? It should be. So, please instead of trying to yell at me about using sun butter (or almond butter), could you please just tell me if these precautions are in line with the ones you all follow. Thank you!
AND WOW butter is Soy. She can't have soy.

Posted on: Thu, 09/12/2013 - 12:37am
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I applaud your for raising such a sensitive and considerate kid :) Unfortunately we are living in difficult times where people are developing more and more food allergies due to so many different factors. It is so stressful for parents with children that have these life threatening conditions to balance their need for education/socialization with their right to live. I would advise against almond butter, because tree nut allergies tend to produce the most severe allergies in others around. I think that if she is in HS she can eat her food, wash her hands and teeth ( i would anyway after lunch to keep teeth healthy), wipe the area where she ate she should be OK. Btw WOW butter has soy and there are a lot of people that are allergic to soy. My other thought has been, why do we need butter anything? How about veggies, fruit, rice pastas, etc. I know it doesn't apply in your case, but i have such hard time understanding people's obsession with peanut butter (the processed kind), this is so unhealthy for the kids anyway why fight for it so much?

Posted on: Thu, 09/12/2013 - 1:48am
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Thank you for your supportive reply instead of "yelling at me" like the others. I did just want to know if the precautions my daughter takes are sufficient. As to the other suggestions...she cannot have soy, so no WOWbutter. The almond butter was for my son because hedoesn't like sunbutter. (There are no tree nut allergies in my son's school.)
As for other food items for lunch she is very limited in what she can eat. No gluten, no soy, no dairy,no eggs, no meats. And she has a mouth full of braces that make it hard to eat many things. The sunbutter is her only protein. She doesn't eat it every day, but when she wants or needs it, she should be able to eat for others safety, as you agreed by eating in another room (or outside) and washing up and brushing teeth. This works for me and my severe peanut allergy, so it should work for sunbutter.
Thanks.

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