POLL: twins/sibs close in age + young. One=PA, the other isn\'t. P free home or not?

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 3:27am
My2girls's picture
Joined: 04/12/2007 - 09:00

for those who have young (3 yr old) and trips/twins/quads or just close in age children (both pretty much at same level of understanding and that of young child=3,4 yrs old)........ONE is PA the sib isn't.

PED allegist said must keep non PA child eating peanuts or she will/may develop PA.

yes, this is hard-keeping one away away away and giving giving giving the other P.

fearing PA child gets it ingested BUT if not in home at all-fearing non PA child will develop it and then 2 children would have this 'affliction" for lack of better term

whats a mother to do....a single momther that is....less eyes to watch over....

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 3:35am
krc's picture
Joined: 01/16/2007 - 09:00

3 girls- ages 10, 5 and 3. Oldest is PA, youngest test negative (blood test only).
We have a nut free home. I have always treated younger two as if they were nut allergic.
If after skin testing and a challenge, the two younger ones still test negative, I will allow them to eat "may contains" at school and cake at birthday parties but our house will still remain NUT FREE.
This is the one place I feel is "safe" for our PA dd and it would be too stressful to have to worry about xcont and such at our home.
Not to mention I think it sends the wrong message to ask a classroom to be peanut free if I still have peanut butter in my cupboards--KWIM?
ETA: My younger ones are great with it. They ask anyone who tries to give them food, "Does this have nuts or nut oil in it or made in a facility? My sister is allergic to nuts so we don't eat them."
I was so surprised the first time I witnessed my middle one say this to someone.
Kids are wonderful with this. Most the time I find them to be more compassionate than most the adults we come across [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
10 yo dd- PA,TNA, tests pos to soy, CATS, many environmentals, Asthmatic
5 yo dd- NKA, avoiding nuts
3 yo dd- outgrown milk/soy, avoiding nuts
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Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 3:39am
kandomom's picture
Joined: 01/12/2006 - 09:00

There are many families here who have multiple children, but only one has PA.
So, I'm sure you will get a lot of advice.
My older DD is PA, my younger DD is not. They are 4yrs 9mths apart. The home has been PA free for about 9yrs. Younger DD was tested and challenged 9mths ago. We had treated her like PA from birth to 5 1/2 (age of testing).
She can have peanut products out of the home, i.e at b-day party, occasions when she is not w/ sister. She does not eat a lot of peanut products, but enjoys the occasional pb cup.
From your other posts, you are very new to this. This is a helpful online community, but it is OK to take a step back to catch your breath.
You will develop a comfort zone for you and your child. Since you have twins, perhaps you can treat them both as PA, this will make it easier for you and those who are around the girls. And it will be easier to teach them.
Best wishes.

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 3:59am
mcmom's picture
Joined: 06/15/2004 - 09:00

I have two boys, a 7 year old with PA and a 5 year old without. I too always treated the 5 year old as allergic - had him blood tested at 4, it was negative. After that, I let him eat may contains out of the house or at parties. Had him skin tested this year (he's about to turn 6), and it was negative. But I will still only ever let him eat may contains outside the home. He wouldn't eat pb even if I wanted him to, he's very picky. And if someone gives him a snack, like at baseball, he will ask if it is safe, even though his brother has the allergy [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
We have a totally nut free home, I don't allow may contains either - the kids are too young. I could never deal with the stress of having peanut products in my home, and my PA son would *freak* out! He would not eat a holiday dinner (which was completely safe)at his aunt and uncle's because he saw a jar of pb at their house.
As someone said above, our home is his safety zone.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 4:04am
My2girls's picture
Joined: 04/12/2007 - 09:00

good to know-i am leaning in the nut free way but feared the possibility that the other would develop PA..
when, might i ask, do you get to the point when you can read these responses and NOT cry? i get choked up over so much.

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 4:25am
Greenlady's picture
Joined: 06/30/2004 - 09:00

My older child is PA, and we've treated his younger sister as if she is PA. We plan to have her tested this summer.
If she is not PA, we will still keep a nut-free home (because my DS deserves to have one place he can feel safe), but I plan to have peanut "dates" with her at least once a month, where we go out and eat peanut-containing foods, so that her immune system remembers that peanut are not dangerous (to her).
Unfortunately, the science is so sketchy right now, it is hard to know for sure the best way of avoiding allergies. I've gone with the theory that total avoidance during the early years helps the immune system develop without seeing peanuts as the "enemy", and then regular exposure after the immune systems develops will keep it from forgetting that peanuts are okay.
But if after all my calculations, my daughter becomes PA, I won't worry about it too much, because no one has the answers right now.
Hope this helps!

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 4:31am
chanda4's picture
Joined: 12/14/2006 - 09:00

for us, I have 4 and only 1 PA so far. We don't eat pb at home anymore, took all foods out of the house. So my youngest 2 are never exposed to anything containing peanuts or nuts(to my knowlege, and I have had them tested for the allergy twice so far, negative so far)....I am unsure about the advice from your doc. I was told to keep my younger kids away from any peanuts or nuts until age 5! My oldest used to eat it(away from home) but rarely does anymore. She says she doesn't like the taste anymore, but when she is at a friends she is allowed(then washes once she is home). If I were you I'd get a 2nd opinion on feeding the other twin nuts as of yet. I would think avoiding would just be safer...but what do I know. All my kdis avoid though, so it can be done. Good luck!
Chanda(mother of 4)
Sidney-8 (beef and chocolate, grasses, molds, weeds, guinea pig & asthma)
Jake-6 (peanut, all tree nuts, eggs, trees, grasses, weeds, molds, cats, dogs, guinea pig & eczema & asthma)
Carson-3 1/2 (milk, soy, egg, beef and pork, cats, dog, guinea pig and EE)
Savannah-1 (milk and egg)

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 4:44am
Peanut Militia's picture
Joined: 03/06/2007 - 09:00

tears will come and go. There is an honest grieving period after each major reaction or new diagnosis. Don't be afraid of your child--or her PA. I have found the best cure for the tears is a good Dr. Suess book with a fuzzy blanket and my girls on my lap in the 'big' chair.
You are on the right path-you have found a wonderful support system here. Have you looked for a support group in your area? There is a thread for support groups, you can then do a search for your state/city. Sometimes it helps to see other kids with PA-for you and your daughter. I would also suggest getting out with friends/hubby and making yourself not talk about PA for a couple of hours. The mental rest will give you a new perspective when you start thinking about your new life.
We have been living peanut free for over five years. Two things to think about: 1) My daughter is alive--Life threatening does not have to be a death sentence. Be prepared by always knowing where your DD meds (Epi) are located. Keep them close. Always check labels, Call ahead when you are going out and be prepared to leave if the person on the phone didn't understand.
2) Our home is a normal home--just no peanuts. You will get to the point you are doing things just like you did before the diagnosis.
Hang in there--IT DOES GET EASIER!!!

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 4:48am
Sarahb's picture
Joined: 01/22/2007 - 09:00

Friends of mine have 5 year old twins. One is allergic to wheat, soy, milk, peanuts and treenuts and the other has no allergies. They feed them both the same things and keep the house allergen free. BUT they knew very early on that the boy had allergies so they were both brought up without those foods. They are thriving. I don't know if they may change how they do it as the kids get older but so far this has worked for them.

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 5:00am
hapi2bgf's picture
Joined: 04/22/2004 - 09:00

I have to say I would go with a peanut/tree nut free house.
We have several different food allergies in our house. They rank on severity. The PA child, 6, has anaphylactic reactions, so no nuts in the house-period. Cross contamination and shared equipment products are allowed in the house, but she does not eat them.
The next allergy , 2yr old, is not anaphylatctic so the item (dariy) is still allowed in the house.
The rule is that if the older child teases the younger with food she cannot eat, or feeds her something she is not allowed, then the whole house becomes nut free and dairy free. That stopped some teasing problems we were having. now all is good [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img])
BTW the younger child is not allowed any nuts - per the allergist.
Also, we have a labeling system, so I mark every product that comes in the door. You can use kids names who can or cannot eat it, stickers, pictures, just mark the foods they have access to so there is no question.
Living with allergies does get easier and after a few weeks you will feel much better about how you are going to handle the allergies.
Good luck

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2007 - 5:23am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

Is is actually proven that the non pa child is at higher risk of developing pa if you avoid peanuts for her? I know that if you outgrow pa, it can come back unless you continue to eat peanuts, but I have never heard that if you were never pa to begin with that you are more likely to become pa if you avoid peanuts.
We had a minor incident a few months ago when I ate some peanut candy out of the house and washed up well. Later that evening, my dd ate a normal food and got one hive. It was only one hive, but my dd does not get mystery hives. I think what happened was that there was residue in my saliva and I either breathed on her food as I was preparing it or else I used a spoon, had residue in my saliva which was still on the spoon after washing, then dd used the spoon. However it happened, I eat peanut products less than once a year, and the one time I do, dd gets a hive even though I was so careful to clean up well. I have to believe that this was not a coincidence. I vote for the peanut free home.
By the way, I am a single mom too.
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