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Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 10:57pm
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becca, don't you hate those dreams that scare you half to death. The worst part is they linger and make you feel uneasy afterwards too.
Did you nurse your son? If so did you eat any may contains while doing so or while pregnant?
My son was tested at about 16 or 17 months and had a 4+ skin test. He had no known exposure. The only exposure must have been while I was pregnant or nursing.
I think it is worth taking him to the allergist, getting him tested and telling them of your fears.
Good luck.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:16pm
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I definately might have eaten may contains, but no known nuts. I did also get a walnut in an ice cream from a stand, while pregnant. Just for anyone who considers risking hard scoop ice cream! So, I suppose there is a chance there has been some mild trace exposure. And, with the itchy eye thing at the farmstand, it might be a contact exposure. If it is enough to make his eye itch and a bit puffy, then it would test, even if low. I also wondered of he got a similar contact eye irritation at a friend's house(where dd has always been fine). I know he, they, consume alot of nuts. She has warned me and watches dd very closely, changes her son's clothes sometimes, in order to play with dd.
So, I guess I have enough suspicion for testing. Part of it is I want ds to have a perfectly regular preschool experience if it is safe for him to do so! It is a peanut and nut free school, but the risk is in birthday and party stuff, unknown may contain type foods. They do not entirely get that there.
He has a perpetual dry rashy deal around his mouth and even now has a funny spot under one eye after chowing Thomas bagels for two days. I actually question sesame, which can require more vigilance, with crackers, bread... alot of mystery spots and mild skin dots here and there.
I guess I have enough to go for testing. Maybe even just a first pass on bloodwork with the ped. He is great and we can pop in anytime. I wait months for the allergist. Plus, I do not really want spt at this time, so the ped can do the bloodwork anyway. Ds would never cooperate sitting for 15-20 mins with serums on his forearms! I can't ever imagine him siiting still that long anyway! Thanks for all the input.
I really want to know, but I don't, and I am sure you all understand what I mean!
I will call the allergist for advice too. Maybe he will recommend what to check before knowing if he needs to see ds. It is all on my mind because I will have to schedule dd's annual allergist appt. soon, and decicing if we should just bring both children. becca
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Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:47pm
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In our case the other sibling is a twin instead of younger. But we ran the RAST last year, and it did show up as negative. Like the rest of you, we had never allowed him to eat peanuts, so we are not 100% convinced. So we now allow him to eat "may contains" occasionally. But we are going to give him a scratch test & a food challenge this coming summer when we do our yearly allergist visit for the PA son. This was recommended by the allergist, and we gladly agreed.
So far, both sons have always been in the same class room - both pre-school and now kindergarten, and I have told the teachers the situation, and for them not to hesitate to give the non-PA son the Epi if he seemed to be reacting to anything.
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Mom to 6 year old twins Ben & Mike - one PA & the other not.
Stay Informed And Peanut Free!

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 1:13am
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becca, as far as what to test for, my allergist recommended at such a young age that they test for egg, wheat, milk, and peanut. I would also add in sesame since you have suspicions. I have to get that one done for my son as well.

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 1:16am
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becca, it's actually reassuring to me to hear you're in the same boat. I haven't ever purposely fed my 3YO peanut anything, but once she had some suspicious hives on her ears with something that could have been cross-contaminated. So I'm trying to decide if I should put her through the skin testing, which is how my PA DD's allergist tests. I think we'll do it this summer when she turns 4 unless she has further suspicious symptoms. I want to know and I don't - I'm with you there.

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 1:49am
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Right, I mean, as long as they are always under our watch, we have epis for the older child anyway. But he really needs a Jr. and ours are now almost 3 months expired. I just need the security of him having epi, more than anything. Dd now has full dose, so I have to deal with it now.
Does anyone have a doctor prescribe just in case, because of the family hsitory, for the preschool age? As Sherlyn said, she is fortunate her twins are together in the event of an emergency. It is reassuring to have it there. Seems all schools should have it as a first aid item, regardless. The unkown allergy is more dangerous than the known for anyone. becca

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 6:04am
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Becca, we're in a similar situation. My 3yo DD will be in preschool when she's 4yo, but we keep a PN and TN free home because of her older brother. I know she's had a couple of "may contains" items (not from me, but from other well-meaning family members [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img], and one cookie that actually had walnuts. I suspect that she is not allergic, but I'd feel more comfortable with test results prior to sending her to preschool. She's never had eczema the way DS did as a baby and toddler, and there isn't even a hint of asthma as yet. The preschool DS went to is nut-free anyway, but they do allow "may contains" for snacks. We'll probably talk to the allergist about it one of these days when we see him with DS.
Good luck with your decision!
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Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 7:21am
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How timely to find this thread!
Our DS is 7 & PA (anaphylaxis at 11 months)& with still-questionable TNAs.
Our DD is 4 1/2 & has tested negative (skin prick) to peanut, as well as other food allergens. We know she was exposed to may contains and tree nuts when she breastfed (for 2 years).
We currently homeschool, but hope to have kids mainstreamed into a public or private school this coming school year -- DS will be in 2nd grade, and DD will either be in K or pre-K, depending on age cutoff.
We plan to have included into DS's 504 some restrictions regarding handling of his sister & restrictions for her exposure as a means of protecting him. There will also be some sort of other written agreement for her teacher/classroom so everyone is on the same page.
As to Epi-pens, our DS has a prescription for *both* Jr & regular Epi-pens. He now weighs 59 lbs (weighed 51 lbs when Rx was written). Current pediatrician was OK with reg Epi-pens, but a second doc felt he was borderline on weight & wanted Jrs. We gave up arguing & realized it would mean we then would also have Jrs to use on DD (weighs 39 lbs) if she were to have anaphylactic reaction to something. So, we always carry 2 of each size & additional for trips. But I'm betting the school won't allow the Jrs on the property for DD unless doctor writes order for it.
Anyone have specifics for sibling written into PA child's 504??
EB

Posted on: Thu, 03/02/2006 - 1:36am
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We've got the same situation here too. My oldest has PA and my youngest is about to enter pre-school - he' s never has a taste of peanuts. Last time I asked about testing my youngest, I was told the same thing about the antibodies - no ecposure = no antibodies, so there's really nothing to test for.
He's shown no signs of allergies (knock on wood) - with my oldest, I had suspicions of allergies from the time he was born.
I've enrolled him in pre-school this fall, and have the same issues with the snacks. I do let him eat may contains, and he's never had any issues. It was a hard decision, but I've decided to let him eat whats brought into the classroom, provided there are no actual nuts or peanuts in what he's eating.

Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2006 - 11:36pm
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Hmmm, Becca, I think I'd probably have him tested, both skin and RAST. After you get those results in, then you can figure out what to do next.
I'll just relay our history too. Like others, confusing and not concrete. MFA ds was exposed to peanut butter while I was pregnant, and perhaps with traces around the house after he was born. I was unable to nurse.
I do remember, however, being very careful to wash up after eating it once the kids were born. Odd thing to remember considering how much else I've forgotten...mother's intuition I guess.
Anyway, he was diagnosed with PA through testing only, no known ingestion. Since diagnosis, he's had 2 reactions that I'm just about positive I've traced back to peanut residue.
MFA ds has had eczema since 3 mos. old. His twin doesn't have eczema. But he does still have reflux and has those allergic shiners under his eyes. We had skin testing done around time of brothers' diagnosis, negative. We just had comprehensive bloodwork done through a GI , all negative.
But the reflux and shiners still make me wonder, and I'm making an appt with the allergist for another skin test.
They are currently enrolled in preschool together which has an extremely controlled food environment. But come Kindergarten, it will be totally different.
I would follow your instincts, sorry about the scary dream, how vivid! The problem with testing is we all know it's not completely accurate...but if it's positive, then requesting an epipen won't be a problem. If it's negative, then what to do? Meg

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