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Posted on: Sat, 10/14/2006 - 10:04pm
Christabelle's picture
Joined: 10/03/2004 - 09:00

We don't do soccer, either. I think it's insane when parents scream at the kids who are 6 or 7. That doesn't happen much in my community, just a tad, but I've seen it go on in the teams that they play.
My daughter and son are in tennis, swimming, she is in ballet, they are both in martial arts, she is in Girl Scouts, and riding and violin start in the Spring for her (he is too young still for Boy Scouts, or music or riding.)
No one screams at the tennis players...LOL. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Also, it's indoors and doesn't involve long travel times and the tennis outfits are cute (LOL!) And there's this: they can play it their whole lives. I see the gamut at our club - 4 year olds to 80 year olds.
I will get them invovled in golf, too.

Posted on: Sat, 10/14/2006 - 11:45pm
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

Those of you who have had a good experience with your GS troop making accommodations, do you also have a pretty good experience with your school making PA accommodations? Or similarly, those who have been involved in non-accommodating GS troops, was your experience the same at your school?
Since (volunteer) troop leaders are usually parents from the [i]school community[/i], I wonder if there's any relationship. . . .
Mariah was a GS for 3 years, but I was never a leader or any type of volunteer with the troop because I didn't feel the need. The parents were already very knowledgeable about LTFAs because the school (via [i]us[/i]) had begun educating the students and parents. The girls and troop leader were already trained/accommodating.
I'm currently a "co" troop leader for my younger non-PA daughter. She likes GS because she thinks it's [i]fun.[/i] IMO, 'scouting' is a very tiny aspect of our group. . . it's just a monthly 'activity club' where the girls do fun crafts or sports and get to collect cool looking badges. Very little to do with 'scouting' at all. Looking at our schedule this year: going to "Flicka" at the movie theater, ice skating, 'math fun' (badge), bowling, bike riding, 'Science in Action' (badge), 'careers' (badge), "friends are fun' (badge), the April Showers collection and cookie sales. IMO, none of this really has much at all to do with 'scouting' or 'camping'. Just a girl's club, IMO. <> Nothing one couldn't do without.

Posted on: Sun, 10/15/2006 - 11:42am
smudgesgarden's picture
Joined: 02/26/2006 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
Honestly? It's to the point my school smirks at my requests to enforce a [b]Federally Promulgated[/b] Law meant to protect my child. [/b]
why does this not suprise me!!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
no tone intended!!
you dont strike me as the kind of person who will let someone walk all over you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
girl scouts for me was such a positive experance and i realy want my daughter to have fun and make the kind of friends i had. now remember my daughter isnt pa....
i am worried about the time when they start selling cookies, and from what i understand they now sell nuts, but i will cross that bridge when i come to it.
when its time for my son to join cub scouts that might be a diffrent can of worms!!!!
i am going to call the "leader" of our local girl scout council on monday morning to find out about there policy with ltfa.
ill post her reply... hopefully its a good responce.
ps this post is kinda rambling ( i had a few beers, husband is away for the weekend and so are the kids!!) woo hoo
party at my house!
oh another thing, my sister brought up a question i want to post for responce...
sould i deny my non food allergy child from after school activites ie: girl scouts, just because my son is allergic to something??

Posted on: Sun, 10/15/2006 - 12:16pm
krc's picture
Joined: 01/16/2007 - 09:00

Smudgesgarden: To answer your sisters question- Of course not
We just have to make sure they are safe while they are there. Sometimes depending on who is running the after school activity-this can be an incredibly hard task. I do choose to try and educate and speak to whomever the after school program director is before I make a decision to send or not send dd. I do prefer activities where food is not involved!

Posted on: Mon, 10/16/2006 - 12:50am
smudgesgarden's picture
Joined: 02/26/2006 - 09:00

yeah, i prefer activities where food isnt involed either. i was just wondering what everyone felt about it. id rather girl scouts didnt sell nuts. im not sure what we are going to do when that time comes.

Posted on: Mon, 10/16/2006 - 1:00am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

Yes, they do sell nuts. When our troop sold them, they passed out free samples in front of a store. Of course, dd could not participate in that. One of the leaders asked me to have dd do it and wear gloves, because if dd didn`t do it, "it wasn`t fair to the other girls". Let`s see, what about airborne, should I tell dd not to breathe while she is passing them out? I was told by people on this board that the nut sale is optional and the troop can decide to do it or not, unlike the cookie sale which all troops do. Our troop, of course, chose to do the nut sale, even with a pa child.
Gail W., to answer your question, our school had great accomodations for the pa. We were the ones who were offerred a 504 without even asking....so no correlation with the accomodations in Girl Scouts.

Posted on: Mon, 04/02/2007 - 4:02am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

Re-raising for PA-Mom.

Posted on: Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:07am
Sarahfran's picture
Joined: 06/08/2000 - 09:00

In our first year of Girl Scouts, I had to deal with this a lot--troop meetings were *generally* OK (except for one horrible day when the leader "forgot" about DD's allergy and had a cooking activity planned as part of an African culture patch that involved peanut butter) but council level events were always dangerous. PBJ served as the vegetarian option for lunch, unsafe snacks ("may contains") etc. I chaperoned everything, oversaw handwashing for girls who ate PB, made them sit away from the rest of the troop while eating, policed the kitchen picking packages out of the trash to read the labels, called people in charge of cooking at events to check stuff in advance, and marched into the kitchen at camp and told them the "make your own PBJ sandwich" table would have to go (they agreed to make the sandwiches inside on a separate table, wrap them individually, and put them out for kids who would eat all at the ends of tables. And they also discovered that this was A LOT easier and less messy for them.).
The next year, miraculously, there were no peanuts anywhere. No more PBJ at council events, no peanut-laden GS cookies served at meetings, no PB anywhere to be found at camp, and at one point at camp, there was a trail mix activity--the girls got one scoop each of several foods to make their own mix, and when I went behind the table to check the labels not only did they have them easily accessible, but they said that they made sure to get only peanut safe items since this was such a concern now!
This year, the co-leader of DD's Brownie troop has an 11 year old son with a peanut allergy so she is hyper-aware and fabulous about keeping things safe.
So I guess the lesson is to stick with it and be a pain in the butt--it seemed to have worked for us, and it's been really worth the effort because Brownies has been awesome!

Posted on: Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:10am
gvmom's picture
Joined: 08/24/2005 - 09:00

How do they earn a 'Be a PAL' badge? Wouldn't part of being a PAL be to not eat foods containing nuts when you are trying to keep someone allergic safe? To truly follow through with the message of that badge, I would think, would be to understand the importance of inclusiveness and safety for FA people -- and most importantly for the Girlscouts who are FA members!

Posted on: Fri, 10/06/2006 - 5:47am
Carefulmom's picture
Joined: 01/03/2002 - 09:00

Been there, done that. As you might remember I had to pull dd out of Girl Scouts as there were so many events that were unsafe for her. I had a meeting with some big wig (don`t recall her title) and I printed out information from the Girl Scout website that someone on this board had posted the link to. When it really came down to it, they do not practice inclusion. It is just lip service. You probably remember the field trip to the bakery that used peanuts--even the bakery owner said it was unsafe for dd to go. I wanted it changed to something that dd could safely attend. The Girl Scout big wig condoned the field trip with the famous "It isn`t fair to the other girls to miss out because of one child." That is certainly not inclusion. And like the girls really care whether it is a bakery with peanut products or a bagel bakery without peanut products. When I saw the thread here a few weeks ago about the Be A Pal patch, all I could think was how hypocritical it was. Not at all what they practice during their events.


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