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Posted on: Mon, 02/26/2007 - 2:06pm
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

McCobbre -
Years ago, we lived in Fort Worth - just long enough for M to be a Texan. Does that count??
It would be fun if we were all a bit closer - I'd love to have coffee/lunch with both of you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 02/27/2007 - 3:15am
ajas_folks's picture
Joined: 04/28/2000 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by M'smom:
It would be fun if we were all a bit closer - I'd love to have coffee/lunch with both of you! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
DITTO! But unfortunately we'll have to settle for a cyber lunch due to our 3-way-split time zones these days . . . [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Sue, I cannot believe that there are vending machines in the library.
What ever happened to keeping the TREASURE of the library (THE BOOKS) clean and protected??

Posted on: Tue, 02/27/2007 - 3:35am
SkyMom's picture
Joined: 10/27/2001 - 09:00

joeybeth, I also handle this issue in a similiar way. However, IMO only, I see my dd's pa like I would see any person with a wheelchair (child/adult). I believe that in an equal society there should be no one that cannot access a public place or event without fear for their life. My first attempt is to tactfully explain my dd's situation, when this fails I simply raise my voice loud enough to ensure all ears can hear me explain to my dd that some people are just too ignorant that they can't save their peanuts until later, so I guess their snack means more than her life. This has never failed ever.

Posted on: Tue, 02/27/2007 - 3:43am
ajas_folks's picture
Joined: 04/28/2000 - 09:00

I'm gonna veer off this topic, but I just needed to post this . . .
And I know these days of freedom are virtually gone for most kids, but . . .
Once upon a time (age 12) I would ride my bike 2 1/2 miles to a certain downtown magnificent-piece-of-architectural-design library . . . best friend & I would go about 10:00 AM. Read-read-read. At noon-thirty we would ride our bikes over to the Woolworth to enjoy our nutritious pre-teen-lunch of french fries and cherry-topped cheesecake. [Cost us $1.02, plus "tip". She bought the fries, I bought the cheesecake & we shared.] Then we would leave our bikes parked at Woolworths & we would walk down to Harrahs to ride the elevator. We rode up & down a couple of times standing on our feet. We always attempted a couple more rides while doing hand stands. Sometimes we would also walk a few blocks over to visit her dad who had offices in downtown "skyscraper". Then we would ride our bikes back over to library to read-read-read. We would check out, on average, maybe 10 books each. Stuff those into backpacks. About 4:00 we'd ride bikes home.
We never had ANY need to eat or drink in the library. If we were thirsty, there were drinking fountains.
The library was pristine. We would occasionally get shushed (once) in "library voice" by librarian or an adult patron if we got too giggly. We shushed.
We would not have even CONSIDERED bringing food into the library. The books were hallowed. The library was revered.
We saved our horseplay for the Harrah's elevator. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img]
Edited because I really CAN spell, I just CANNOT type accurately.
[This message has been edited by ajas_folks (edited February 27, 2007).]

Posted on: Tue, 04/24/2007 - 2:17pm
fuzzyfurball's picture
Joined: 06/27/2002 - 09:00

This same exact thought occurred to me recently. DH brought home a jar of PB (he takes it to work and eats it there and thoroughly washes up after he eats) and he asked me to put it somewhere. I was totally paranoid and sorta grabbed it barely by the edges and he laughed at me, but I said I had visions of some kid eating some other jar of PB or peanuts and getting residue all over it. He for the most part gets the allergy, but I just think I am a little goofy about this!

Posted on: Wed, 04/25/2007 - 12:37am
Greenlady's picture
Joined: 06/30/2004 - 09:00

I recently faced a dilema. I was traveling for business with a collegue. She has kids about the same age as mine and we chat about them, so she knows a bit about what I've gone through with PA.
Our flight was delayed an hour and a half - we were stuck on the tarmac. There was no food service - not even soda - because the flight was under an hour (59 min). What with baggage and rental car lines, we weren't on the road until 8:30, and still had an hour drive ahead of us. I had eaten at 5:00 at the airport, but she hadn't eaten since lunch.
As we put out of the airport, she pulls a giant bag of trail mix from her purse. Before she opens it, she checks to make sure that I'm not allergic - and I'm not - and starts munching.
And all I could think about was what if a PA person rented this car next? She's driving, so peanut residue is getting all over the steering wheel and other controls. I thought about saying something, and offering to stop for food, but we had an early morning appointment. She would have put it away if I said something, but would have been (probably justifiably) resentful, which would have strained our working relationship.
And they she would have eaten the trail mix in her hotel room anyway.
Of course, this must happen all the time, and I don't think about it, because then I'd go crazy. er.. .crazier.

Posted on: Thu, 07/05/2007 - 3:54am
philote's picture
Joined: 07/05/2007 - 09:00

I do not have a life-threatning nut allergy, but I was researching at this board because I have had slight reactions to walnuts, pecans, and almonds. (I avoid them for the most part...) Just wanted to post about a good experience I had concerning eating peanuts in public.
Full disclosure: I love peanuts. Love 'em. Ever since I was a child, I have been in love with peanut butter. After I got diagnosed with Type I diabetes at age 18, I loved them even more because they were LOW CARB! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I eat them quite often at home, although not in public (there *are* some of us who think about others even if doesn't personally affect us).
Two weeks ago I was shopping at my local Macy's in the dress section when I started to feel terrible. I was having a hypoglycemic reaction. For those of you who aren't familiar with diabetes, this means I must have something with carbohydate *pronto* or I'll be reduced to a seizing mess on the floor. The only thing I had with me at the time was a 6 pack of Lance pb crackers. I ripped those puppies open and started chomping away (probably grossing out some of the previous posters in this thread, if they had seen me...) Walking across the store to the exit to eat in a "designated eating area" or whatever would be out of the question, as moving around with a low blood sugar only makes things worse.
When I was on my 4th cracker, a lady approached me and kindly asked if I could eat the crackers elsewhere and/or later, as her daughter was allergic to nuts (and she could smell the peanut from a few dress racks over). I was mortified! I explained why I was eating the crackers and she was similarly mortified, so there we stood profusely apologizing to each other. I actually laughed at that point and thanked her for being so nice about it, and she said that she and her daughter would just go to another part of the store for a little while until I'd had a chance to finish up what I was doing and be on my way. I promised not to touch any of the merch after I was done!
FWIW, I won't be packing pb crackers in my purse again as an emergency snack. Just thought I'd share cos as a person with (yet another) immediately life threatening illness, I truly appreciated her consideration and understanding. Sometimes there will be a person eating because they *have to*, not cos they want to - but that doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a pb product. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] If it were me with a nut allergy, I'd approach the person as the lady I met did.

Posted on: Thu, 07/05/2007 - 4:28am
Sarahb's picture
Joined: 01/22/2007 - 09:00

I don't chew ice typically and would never drag the fork across my teeth...but I do roll my eyes a bit. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
BUT so far I twice said something to people eating peanuts in public. One was the cashier at Trader Joes who was scanning my order (IDIOT) and the other was a girl checking us into a 4 year old's birthday party. (DUH) I also contacted the "management" at both of these places once I got home.
At the zoo - (first week of diagnosis) I showed ds that children (seemmingly every child we saw that day) were running around eating pb sandwiches (no jelly?) and I took the opportunity to tell him that he had to be careful not to touch surfaces, etc. But I really wanted to approach those parents and scream at them.
Before PA everytime my mom visited us she would comment that we are all feeding our kids all the time. Snack, snack, snack. For me it was just a hold over from infantcy and toddlerhood....but lately we have been pulling back with the constant grazing. DS is thin as a rail. I used to be also..waaaaaaaa.

Posted on: Thu, 07/05/2007 - 6:28am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

En Publica.
I don't want to live in a world where people feel it's their job to nag others about activities of daily living. Make them feel like they are doing something wrong....Can you imagine? Polictical correctness on steroids.
If it's "wrong" to eat peanuts in public then it must be wrong to eat anything else in public. Aren't there enough rules already?

Posted on: Thu, 07/05/2007 - 7:56am
Greenlady's picture
Joined: 06/30/2004 - 09:00

Hello and welcome, philote! Thanks for sharing your story. It made me smile. That's exactly the way things *should* be.
One thing in your post gave me pause, though:
[b]"I was researching at this board because I have had slight reactions to walnuts, pecans, and almonds. (I avoid them for the most part...)"[/b]
Many people on this board have experienced "slight" reactions to foods which suddenly evolved into "major" reactions. I hope that you have seen an allergist and talked about whether you need an epipen, just in case. Nut allergies can be unpredictable!

Posted on: Sun, 07/08/2007 - 2:24pm
stitcher's picture
Joined: 03/14/2007 - 09:00

Not sure if this belongs here or elsewhere but I'll take a stab here and hope I don't offend anyone.
Sarahb said:
"At the zoo - (first week of diagnosis) I showed ds that children (seemmingly every child we saw that day) were running around eating pb sandwiches (no jelly?) and I took the opportunity to tell him that he had to be careful not to touch surfaces, etc. But I really wanted to approach those parents and scream at them. "
As a frequent Zoo goer I would love some suggestions for easily portable safe proteins. Meat just does not work well even in a cooler when we go open to close. But I'd hate to put someone at risk because my pocketbook won't cover two adults and 3 kids when I take my sister in law and her kids...She's unemployed so having her help with expenses is out. PB is easiest, but after spending so much time here over the last few months it's just not worth the risk.
Suggestions would be most welcome. ( or should I just start another thread?)

Posted on: Sun, 07/08/2007 - 3:43pm
Peg541's picture
Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Stitcher are you the allergic one or your child?
There are threads here for safe snacks. Use the search function and you'll find lots of lists started by lots of us.
While my son was growing up it was my job to help him learn to keep safe and I never spent one minute thinking of what non allergic people could eat.
My energy was spent finding foods my son could safely eat and teaching him to be independent which he now is. So it's tough when people ask for suggestions. Thankfully there is that search function and like I said lots of lists already made.

Posted on: Mon, 07/09/2007 - 1:36am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by Peg541:
[b]While my son was growing up it was my job to help him learn to keep safe and I never spent one minute thinking of what non allergic people could eat.
I'm teaching mine not to crack their gum, munch on ice, clip their toenails, or [i]brush/comb their hair[/i] in public either. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
Who are these women who need to redo their ponytail in line ahead of me? They have to drag that brush through the whole mop flipping it all over my groceries. What I wouldn't have given for a pair of hedge trimmers at that moment. Snip Snip.
[i]JUST KIDDING.[/i] (about the hedge trimmers, not the ponytail)
Anywhoooo. Your cave is your castle. Anything else.....[i]a gift[/i].

Posted on: Mon, 07/09/2007 - 3:04am
Sarahb's picture
Joined: 01/22/2007 - 09:00

Stitcher....it would make me happy if people didn't let thier kids run around with sandwiches in thier hands and pb all over their faces and hands. That's what I was seeing.....3 and 4 year olds with half sandwiches running around and bouncing off the walls. Literally. It was a new PA moms nightmare. But I knew that this is life and I needed to be able to deal with it and let him have a good time.
If you ate pb just eat at a table or on a blanket and wipe hands and faces before running to smudge all over the exhibits!
Another thought is that I just saw these new hot/cold bags at the grocery store. I bought one but haven't tested it yet. It claims to keep frozen food frozen for 3 hours! Since we bring food everywhere I just usually prepreeze what we can...ie watermelon, strawberries, juice box, waterbottles and then add them to my insulated lunch box which has also been kept in the freezer. In my climate this has worked well even on hot days.
But seriously simple mannors and hygene would go a long way with me. BUT I would not bring pb/nuts/peanuts into a closed room/playroom type exhibit. Eat outside. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 07/09/2007 - 9:36am
stitcher's picture
Joined: 03/14/2007 - 09:00

Peg _ neither. I am here trying to help a family at teh church I work at...they want to enroll the kid in our Sunday School and attend services with us...but have concerns. I am here because I want to help them feel more comfortable. Sorry to have upset you.

Posted on: Mon, 07/09/2007 - 3:04pm
joeybeth's picture
Joined: 09/01/2006 - 09:00

i doubt you upset peg. she doesn't seem the type to be that way. maybe her tone didn't come across to you as it was intended to. i've had that happen to me (that i've misunderstood what someone was saying to me) and i've had it happen where my words were taken in a way they weren't intended before also. like i said, i doubt that she meant to offend and i also doubt you offended or upset her in anyhow. that's just my take....
anyhow; how nice of you to be thinking of another family at church. that is very thoughtful and i'm sure they will appreciate your efforts so much.
having dealt with PA for quite some time now with two of my three children, it always touches me when someone takes the time to think of us and try to help.
also, philote, my husband is similarly mildly allergic to nuts like pecans and walnuts. his reactions are very different than my daughters' reactions to peanuts. i can't figure out why the difference. he does avoid pecans and walnuts but doesn't worry about the occasional accidental ingestion like the girls MUST with peanuts.
[This message has been edited by joeybeth (edited July 10, 2007).]

Posted on: Tue, 07/10/2007 - 4:17am
Peg541's picture
Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Thank you Joeybeth and stitcher you did not upset me. I am sorry if I came across as rude. It is wonderful to have someone help a family. We have been on our own for so long until I found this place and now I get all the help I want....

Posted on: Sun, 08/12/2007 - 10:56am
nothankyou's picture
Joined: 07/19/2007 - 09:00

This is the first time since I have been a member that I feel that some moms are using this as their own private soapbox. What a turn off. So the diabetic child should not be fed in public so that the PA child may not be cross-contaminated. The nutritionist may argue that healthy snacks all day are far better for digestion that 3 regimented meals. I come on this website to hopefully hear about ways that I, as a PA mom for 8 years can learn or find comfort regarding food allergies. What a turn off to hear your ideas on society....this is probably the only forum that is forces to listen. By the way, have any children had a lethal reaction after leaving Target?


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