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Posted on: Wed, 09/20/2006 - 11:13am
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Greenlady and Meg -
Thank you!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 10/17/2006 - 11:18am
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Just bringing this up to date.
Our son's RAST results are in : all negative for the things he has GI reactions to.
We're not dismissing this outright - we still plan to monitor our son's consumption of these foods closely.
It sounds to me like it could very well be what you posted about Greenlady.

Posted on: Tue, 10/24/2006 - 12:24am
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I know my son has trouble with various items also and we lump them all together and rotate the whole lot -- so if he has trouble with cinnamon and food dyes -- then we try not to ever give him both in the same day and hopefully not even every other day -- so not just a little cinnamon at breakfast and a little blue dye at lunch -- maybe a little cinnamon at breakfast on saturday and a little blue dye at lunch on monday... though we are not the greatest at this and i know we don't know all the things that irritate him.
it is a process of elimination to narrow down the culprits.

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:26pm
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Lam, I am curious how you pinpointed the source of the problem? I go through various phases of various sensitivity to (I think) wheat. But for some reason I had a time during my last pregnancy where 1 goldfish, or 1 piece of pasta or 1 tyson chicken nugget would make me cramp up and give me a horrible stomach ache. You would think then that a piece of whole wheat bread would incapacitate me, but it seemed no worse than 1 goldfish! And yet it comes and goes...Right now I could probably eat a bowlful with little problem. Has this been going on for a while? Are there any headaches with the symptoms as often these things tend to go along with migraines.
Luvmyboys

Posted on: Wed, 07/26/2006 - 1:31pm
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You might have already done this but Have you had him tested by your allergist lately?
Also, I don't know where you live but I'm wondering if there isn't a bug going around here (Nor Cal) Monday night Miles threw up in the middle of the night and has been fussy and had diahrrea yesterday and today. (not related to the question I posted earlier regarding the bagel as that was a while ago). I thought it might be a delayed reaction to the MMR (as he has some spots right now that look like pimples) but last night his babysitter threw up as well so I wonder.... Are any of your son's friends sick?

Posted on: Thu, 07/27/2006 - 2:54am
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luvmyboys -
Process of elimination. We suspected different things, then went to our allergist. She tested for the things that COULD be tested for, but the rest were up to us.
All the things we've figured out are: chocolate, paprika, cinnamon, annatto, blue no. 1, whole wheat and soy. He has gotten better with soy.
There are no other symptoms that we're aware of. He's only 7, and has a very high pain tolerance. He may not realize he's having a headache.
Have you thought of the "build-up" effect as being an explanation for the coming and going?
milosmom -
Yes, we had him tested for the things we suspected that COULD be tested for. Unfortunately, most of them couldn't be tested, so we had to figure them out by process of elimination.
No, no one has been ill recently.
Lam [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by Lam (edited July 27, 2006).]

Posted on: Thu, 07/27/2006 - 7:09am
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I've had very few reactions just involving the gut (have had one, though. I am anaphylactic to egg--usual response as a child to *small* amounts of egg...I mean, really small amounts was hives in the throat + projectile vomiting + my mom said that I would just look odd . . .my eyes would look a bit glassy.. she can't really explain it. in 1985 my mom fed me egg to see if I was still allergic (*not* a good idea, I know). I seemed fine so I kept on eating . . . until I had severe, severe stomach cramps that lasted the better part of the day. Haven't had *any* egg since 1985 so I really don't know how I would react. I do react severely on the scratch test---I consider myself to be anaphylactic to egg. My point here is just that GI reactions can mean a severe allergy rather than an intolerance . . . but then again, as you note, GI reactions could point to intolerance.
As for the issue of overloading the system with allergens . . . well, the official word on that is if you're allergic to something (as opposed to having an intolerance) you should avoid it 100%. But I react to so many things . . . when I was a kid I'd eat some things if I could sometimes tolerate a little. My tolerance levels would vary. I always thought of certain allergies as being in a different category than others . . . but I know that's not the way we're supposed to think of reactions to food involving the immune system.
In my personal opinion, following the selective avoidance route might be okay with some people . . . but it can be dangerous too. For instance, the first allergist I went to see when I moved to Toronto practically yelled at me when I reported having a reaction to banana (I wouldn't have even mentioned it except for he asked about recent reactions). He said he couldn't understand me. Why would I deliberately go and eat something that I was allergic to? That's how people like me end up dying, he said. But I really didn't know that I was *supposed* to avoid banana. I considered it a mild allergy (made my throat and mouth itchy . . but I could usually have up to 1/3 of a banana without reacting although it varied). We had never discussed how to manage food allergies . . . I guess he just assumed that I knew what I was doing. But people who are allergic to banana can go into anaphylactic shock . . .
So while it sounds like you have a good handle on the food intolerances . . . from my experience, I'd say that it might be good to err on the side of caution for awhile just in case and then reintroduce the offending foods gradually to see if there is a reaction. If you are certain that it is a food intolerance, there is probably less of a cause for concern, but if it is an allergy then I think caution is needed. (I've heard that people can be allergic to annato . . . I would guess that reactions to dyes are generally intolerances.)

Posted on: Thu, 07/27/2006 - 9:06pm
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DD has a long list of food intolerances (there is a new blood test available for this including many additives/chemicals - e-mail me privately if you want more info). Her treatment was done in phases - basically like a highly specialized elimination diet. The maintenance part of the regimen is basically a rotation diet. She is able to have some things she is intolerant to, but only every third day.
I would guess your son was probably reacting to the build up in his system - hopefully it's not becoming a full blown allergy.
Rebekah

Posted on: Fri, 07/28/2006 - 3:50am
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Just to let you all know...
My son has shown no other signs of illness or allergic reaction since Wednesday.
Thank you for all your thoughts. I have decided it must have been an allergic-type reaction, brought on by too much of the offending substance (build-up). I plan to discuss this with our allergist next time we're in. If she says anything different, I'll try to post it here.
Thank you again for helping me with this.
Lam [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 09/19/2006 - 10:06pm
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Hi, Everyone!
Met with our allergist yesterday, asking her questions concerning the things I've posted in this thread.
She ordered a RAST and IgE test for most of the offending foods, but some are not "RASTable" (my word [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] ).
Her opinion is that he is not having an allergic reaction. She's thinking more along the lines of intolerance, immature system, etc... I'm not sure I agree with her after reading the things that have been posted here about GI allergic reactions.
She ordered the RAST just to make sure it's not an allergy. If it turns out that it IS an allergy, it could get worse (as we all know), and we should start avoiding the foods.
I'll post the results if they show anything interesting.

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