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Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 3:08am
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argh, I seemed to have lost my first message so here it is again:
I think it is an excellent written letter and it shows you took the time to understand the "other" side.
If you do choose to send peanut butter or peanut containing food items for your child, please be aware we will be asking them to assist in cleaning their eating area and to thoroughly wash their hands and face after snack and lunch. If needed, we may also request that they eat in a specific section of the classroom in order to minimize the risk of contamination.
I would take this part out. You will always get that one parent who will want to challenge your request and I think this statement "may" give them permission to do that. Don't give them an option.
You had some great ideas for other options for lunches and snacks, but one thing that got my attention was the egg snack. My ds is EA and if I were that one parent I "may" take offense that my child's egg allergy was not being addressed in the same way as a PA. Of course, I, being a mother to a PA completely understands, however, you'll always get that one parent......
just food for thought (no pun intended)
It was a great letter, I'm so glad that you were able to write it!!
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Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 4:17am
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When a standard school board letter has been used requesting a "peanut free" classroom of my son's classmates, there has always been a portion at the bottom asking parents to sign saying that yes, they have read the letter, just as JSaastad posted. Not that they will comply with what they have read, but they did, in fact, read the letter.
Not clear what follow-up was done for parents that didn't return that portion of the letter.
I had to sign one this year for the first time for my daughter's class because there was a PA child in her class.
Being the PA parent all the other years with my son, I didn't have to sign the letter (obviously [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] )
However, last year, we did do a personalized letter and I think the school board letter portion was just kinda included. I really liked putting a face with a name with the allergy and thought it *might* be helpful.
This past year, I wasn't allowed to do that. The principal stuck with the school board district letter which does have a glaring error in it about coconut not being allowed in a "peanut free" classroom. However, who was I to argue? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 4:22am
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Quote:Originally posted by synthia:
[b]
It doesn't ask them to agree to following the items in the letter, just to sign off that they received and read the letter.
This is whatWE the (1st school) and the parents agreed on (in writing),Later the 1st school came back and said NO we can not ask for the parents to sign!!!!
hmmmmmmm Does that constitute voliating her 504???
[/b]
Are 504's "reworkable" items? You know, from either party?
if no agreement comes to fruition, does that necessarily mean arbitration?
Anyone?

Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 4:55am
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MB,
A 504 plan is a living document. 504 procedure guide from your school or district commonly refers to the need to update it on a periodic basis (often annually). This update is managed by the 504 Team (defined by the school, but parents are included on the Team).
A well crafted 504 plan usually includes accommodations that deal with a review of accommodations should the child experience reactions. The intent should be to force review of the plan and re-ask the question "does this plan work"? Sometimes an event may expose a shortcoming of the plan that require mitigation; in that case, the plan can be amended by the team without having to wait until the end of the school year.
If the Team is unable to agree, then you are likely headed down the path to a due process hearing. Rights to due process are usually articulated in the school 504 procedures guide.
BTW, our accommodation language on this subject reads as follows:
- Parents will review policies/procedures with school staff, D

Posted on: Tue, 07/13/2004 - 7:40am
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if no agreement comes to fruition, does that necessarily mean arbitration?
[b]Not In ALL cases![/b]
Are 504's "reworkable" items? You know, from either party?
[b]Yes IMPHO![/b]
Also let me correct myself from the previous post--This is what I said,,hmmmmmmm Does that constitute voliating her 504???
It is writtan in dd IEP meeting she did at that time have a 504.
Hummmmm I still think there was a violation????
Munchkin's Mom,Sorry If I went off.Keep us posted.
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Synthia

Posted on: Thu, 07/15/2004 - 11:34pm
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Munchin's Mom,
How did you final letter come out? I would love to see it!
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Posted on: Fri, 07/16/2004 - 1:55am
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Quote:Originally posted by synthia:
[b]Also let me correct myself from the previous post--This is what I said,,hmmmmmmm Does that constitute voliating her 504???
It is writtan in dd IEP meeting she did at that time have a 504.
Hummmmm I still think there was a violation????
[/b]
or is a trial and error? I mean, I don't even know if they are right or not. Did you check out the Mass. Document's example? Gotta ask myself if a recommendation/example/suggestion such as I found there is necessarily a "go" in all situations. Would really like to know, since I had asked for something similiar once and was told "no can do" as well. Or something to that effect.
Wondering if i should give it a second shot this fall.
Exactly what would the signature indicate in the situation you describe?
Was it stated as a "requirement" or a "request"? To sign, I mean?

Posted on: Fri, 07/16/2004 - 4:02am
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Momma Bear, here, it was REQUIRED that I sign the letter advising me that my daughter's classroom was "peanut free". However, as I believe I posted above, I'm not clear what follow-up the school did for parents that did not sign and return the form. I happened to be in the school the day I was given the form so I just signed it on the spot (despite that glaring error re coconut) and handed it in.
But then [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] if I'm not sure how it was followed-up on, how do I know it was a requirement and not a request. I just know I had to sign the bloody thing.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 07/16/2004 - 12:32pm
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"Exactly what would the signature indicate in the situation you describe?"
All parents in that class received information.
"Was it stated as a "requirement" or a "request"? To sign, I mean?"
Had to look at my notes--As I recall the conversation{meeting) it was the principal who stated that she wanted a letter to go out and a parent signature to come back as recepit that they (the parent-s)received it!
Now looking at the notes of the meeting it says "A letter will be sent out to parents the first week back(because it was holiday break)from break.The letter [b]should[/b] be signed and returned as proof of [b]receipt by parent.[/b]"
Did you check out the Mass. Document's example?
Yes I have, pg.45
Love this site
Synthia
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Posted on: Sat, 07/17/2004 - 2:28am
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Quote:Originally posted by synthia:
[b]"Exactly what would the signature indicate in the situation you describe?"
All parents in that class received information.
"Was it stated as a "requirement" or a "request"? To sign, I mean?"
Had to look at my notes--As I recall the conversation{meeting) it was the principal who stated that she wanted a letter to go out and a parent signature to come back as recepit that they (the parent-s)received it!
Now looking at the notes of the meeting it says "A letter will be sent out to parents the first week back(because it was holiday break)from break.The letter [b]should[/b] be signed and returned as proof of [b]receipt by parent.[/b]"
Did you check out the Mass. Document's example?
Yes I have, pg.45
[/b]
k, a [b]"receipt"[/b].
Offhand and Off the Top of My Head, and not as advice in any manner or form, don't quite know if the same could be achieved anyway......... and just something *I* personally find similiar, but not quite the same and felt might be interesting:
Sometime in the past, I worked a particular area of the hospital where I often prepared discharge papers for inpatients. I gave discharge instructions (some protocol, some policy, some procedure, doctor's orders, etc.........) and was required to document the same.
Some things I/others did:
Sometimes preparation/teaching pre-hospital stay. Many times regarding patient/family expectations. You know, preparing them.
Coordination of care with various services both pre-hospital and during admission/stay.
Teaching along the way as indicated/necessary/and possibly [b]pre-emptively[/b]. Often and sometimes re: [b]Behavior Modification[/b]
Encouragement. Encouragement. Encouragement.
Compassion. Compassion. Compassion.
Understanding. Understanding. Understanding.
(note, not the same as [i] codependence[/i]. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] )
Noted any deviation from THE PLAN and notified appropriate team members.
kept repeating this and other items (as this is just off the top of my head) until homeostasis achieved/success indicated/or even [i]goal met[/i]/etc.... as goals may vary.
Gave written instructions on specific forms provided and adopted by the institution.
Gave pre-prepared instructions on specific forms provided and adopted by the institution. I mean, quite a few things have [i]standardized[/i] methods as well as [i]individualized[/i]
Asked the patient and family or other representative (if allowed to be present ---confidentiality) if they understood the instructions/had further questions.)
Verified understanding possibly through examination of person's ability to verbablize/demonstrate understanding of the same.
[b]Obtained necessary signatures from those receiving documents.[/b] I mean, I was not allowed to have them sign, even if only for receipt of the same. I was required to make various interventions that [i]prepared them for not only for receipt, but understanding and implementation[/i]. Among other things. [b]Prior to that receipt and beyond.[/b]
Documented this.
Arranged any followup post discharge/monitoring.[b]Sometimes to involve further instruction/teaching/reinforcement/support/etc...[/b]
Documented. Documented. Documented.
editing to add: [b]"Obtained necessary signatures from those receiving documents".[/b]
editing again to add: .[b]"Sometimes to involve further instruction/teaching/reinforcement/support/etc..."[/b]
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just reminiscing.
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