I\'m sick of not eating ice cream...

Posted on: Tue, 08/03/2004 - 7:53am
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Okay...So I've finally had enough of this "no ice cream"" business. If Chapman's in Canada can use dedicated lines and check EVERY batch of their ice cream for nut traces, these greedy US companies can too. I would like to start bombarding these companies with letters, and perhaps they will start using dedicated lines, or at least start using the Veratox system, which identifies nut proteins. Is anyone with me. If we organize, I think we may be able to make a difference. How dare they ignore the estimated 3 million people (most of whom are children!)??? Who's with me??? I will do the leg work (getting to web and mailing addresses). I just need a commitment that we will get as many people (even friends and family who are not allergic) to write and let them know what we think. Alone we are nothing to them, but let's see what they do with a few thousand letters.

Posted on: Tue, 08/03/2004 - 8:50am
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Good Luck, I have been after numerous food companies for years on this issue.
I continue to voice my feelings and agree with you that we must ban together in numbers to make a difference.
I continue to support companies that are allergy aware...Philly Swirl is our ice cream/frozen treat source and I promote them through use of their PTA and Rising Stars Programs...Philly Swirl has given so much to the peanut/nut allergic community and they continue to do so in many ways.
Once again, I thank Philly Swirl for staying nut free and allowing my family to have a safe treat to enjoy and share with everyone we know and meet. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 08/05/2004 - 5:04pm
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I'll join you. I can't find a local store that carries philly swirl. We're using breyer's vanilla but it still makes me nervous.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/05/2004 - 10:08pm
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I am sorry Yankee, but I live in the US and Chris eats Ice Cream all the time. In fact he has a dish at least every single night before bed. It has been his snack since he was little. We eat from many different places and never had a problem. Of course I have to read every package but he has never had an issue with Ice Cream
Yes there are some brands he can not have but yet he eats plenty. Cookie dough,cookies and cream, mint chocolate chip, vanilla, and many more.
What places do you have to shop at around you? We buy from grocery and little convenient stores.
Good luck to you Claire

Posted on: Thu, 08/05/2004 - 10:25pm
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Claire,
Some of us have less stringest comfy zones. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
DW eats any kind of ice cream she wants.
HOWEVER, and this is updated, she's more careful than usual, when eating from, say, and ice cream store (Brighams, Friendlys, etc...). Not like we TRAVEL for ice cream with a milk allergic child...
But shes more aware NOW than she ever was, given our own situation [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
But buying a 1/2 gallon (or pint of B&J's) usually is not a problem.
THOUGH, another however, if you will...
We buy a pint of B&J's 1/2 and 1/2 something or other... and she took one bite, and felt funny... She didnt eat the rest, nor have we bought that type again... We can assume is was x-contam, so...
Jason

Posted on: Thu, 08/05/2004 - 11:08pm
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Jason, We have a very strict comfort zone and always have. We only get 1/2 Gallons of ice cream and would never eat at a friendly restaurant with all of the PB stuff they have.
Over here in New York we have a stewarts store and they have a very safe ice cream we buy.
Also I was not aware of the dairy issues you have. that is a tough one as well.
I do hope you didn't take my post as offensive because I certainly wasn't in any way trying to offend you! I was just saying that we are very fortunate to have some safe stuff for Chris to eat.
We have been dealing with this for 17 years so believe me I know what this is like.
Please do not think i have an unsafe zone because if anything we read, read and reread anything we buy.
We don't have any may contain in our home nor do my family members.
I wish you the best and maybe someday you will be able to find a safe ice cream.
May I just ask what kind of B&J ice cream you buy. Maybe we could find a good one.
Thank you and please I think I was just so excited that we have a safe ice cream that i was trying to share with you.
If your ever in NY look up Stewarts Ice Cream. Maybe you will have luck. take care Claire

Posted on: Thu, 08/05/2004 - 11:19pm
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Me? take offense to ANYTHING? Nah [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Our DD#2 is MFA,m including milk... She eats soy ice cream, no problem.
All others in the house eat any ice cream we want, except obviously, those with nuts, directly, kwim?
The B&J we bought was something like 'twisted ____' it was 1/2 of one flavour, 1/2 of another, like 1/2 funky flavour, half another funky flavour (not just vanilla/chocolate, but like, say 1/2 cherry garcia or 1/2 XYZ' -- Its been so long since we bought it, I cant remember... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
I was just commenting that my DW who's anaphylactic to peanuts, eats whatever type of ice cream she generally wants -- To her, they're all safe, kwim?
And as for my MFA daughter, she eats sundaes when WE eat sundaes, albeit a different ice cream, but a sundae to her, nonetheless [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Sara 2-13-98 NKA (Avoiding Nuts)
Meghan 2-28-03 NKA (Avoiding Nuts)
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Posted on: Fri, 08/06/2004 - 7:08am
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If it is helpful at all, we have branched out a bit in the ice cream zone.
I use a few Breyers flavors, try to stick to simple flavors, and some Edy's. Edy's will allow you to put in certain allergens you want to avoid, I think, and then pulls up a list of flavors free of the allergen. It does not guarantee or say it is anything other than shared equipment, yet I have some faith in the fact they are providing allergen info some confidence on their site. So, I have decided to trust it until I have a reason not to. Dd has had *no* problems. She used to get a random hive from ice creams, and I have concluded it was egg ingredients(to which she is also allergic) and it was before we knew to avoid it cooked into things. It was not likely to be very cooked in an ice cream either! Maybe It was when I thought her only allergic to whites. I forget now. But, it is a challenge to find ice cream flavors free of both nuts and eggs in the brands we trust at times. becca

Posted on: Sun, 08/08/2004 - 11:03am
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I have been pn/tn allergic my entire life. I have never abstained from Ice Cream...I couldn't imagine it.
I love Breyer's Natural Vanilla. I like Philly Swirl when on vacation (they don't have it in MN). Locally, I eat Kemps, it is from Marigold Foods in Minnesota. I can have basically any flavor that doesn't have nuts in the ingredients. They flush their shared lines between runs and do full clean outs. They run simple flavors in the morning that do not contain nuts, like vanilla's, fruits, etc. and then start running non-nut containing other flavors (Caramel Brownie Fudge was an old favorite of mine), and then they start with the really hardcore stuff like Rocky Road, etc.
Hope this helps. Call some of the places around you to see.
Also, see the posts about Coldstone. I also eat McDonald's Cones and Shakes regularly. Wendy's has their chocolate shake too and thats pretty good.
I am anaphylactic to peanuts, hazelnuts, walnuts, etc. and have severe but non-anaphylactic reactions to Almonds.
Hope this helps.

Posted on: Mon, 08/09/2004 - 4:34am
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Quote:Originally posted by becca:
[b]If it is helpful at all, we have branched out a bit in the ice cream zone.
I use a few Breyers flavors, try to stick to simple flavors, and some Edy's. Edy's will allow you to put in certain allergens you want to avoid, I think, and then pulls up a list of flavors free of the allergen. It does not guarantee or say it is anything other than shared equipment, yet I have some faith in the fact they are providing allergen info some confidence on their site. So, I have decided to trust it until I have a reason not to. Dd has had *no* problems. She used to get a random hive from ice creams, and I have concluded it was egg ingredients(to which she is also allergic) and it was before we knew to avoid it cooked into things. It was not likely to be very cooked in an ice cream either! Maybe It was when I thought her only allergic to whites. I forget now. But, it is a challenge to find ice cream flavors free of both nuts and eggs in the brands we trust at times. becca[/b]
Becca I recently read here that some edy's brands contain peanut oil. The poster called edy's and they said they do not consider peanut oil to be an allergen since it is hot pressed and the protein is removed. So if you do an allergen search, it might appear that some are safe when they actually have peanut oil in them or they have been cross contaminated with ones that have the peanut oil in them. Just a heads up.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/09/2004 - 10:13am
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could everyone please list what you consider to be safe (that you use) & list the allergens that you are avoiding.
Thanks

Posted on: Mon, 08/09/2004 - 10:15am
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could everyone please list what you consider to be safe (that you use) & list the allergens that you are avoiding in the US.
I too avoid US Ice Cream but wish I didn't have too.
I was just in Canada for a week & so enjoyed my 3 cartons of Chapmans.
Oh that Swiss Mocha was the BEST.
& DS so enjoyed the new Lil treats
Perfect todder/preschool size snacks

Posted on: Mon, 08/09/2004 - 10:16am
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We use Breyer's ice cream: vanilla, coffee, chocolate, mint chip, and Take Two (vanilla and chocolate).
We are avoiding peanuts and watermelon.

Posted on: Mon, 08/09/2004 - 2:13pm
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We are avoiding peanut and tree nut. The only thing we use so far is Breyer's vanilla (the 98% fat free). I might branch out to other flavors someday but we're happy with plain vanilla for now. We use philly swirl when I can find it.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/10/2004 - 2:40am
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I have a few ice cream makers, but I currently have a table top ice cream maker I can use and have 100% safe, fresh, fairly healthy ice cream in 20 minutes. We have a very tight comfort zone with ice cream and dd loves it, so that is our solution. Chocolate silk "ice cream" is good in it, too!

Posted on: Tue, 08/10/2004 - 5:47am
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What kinda ice cream makers do you use & like
I bought one once but every recipe called for egg which DS is also allergic

Posted on: Tue, 08/10/2004 - 6:58am
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Thanks Gale. I have noticed recently that they are also morphing alot of flavors into "creamy" and "smooth" or such varieties, adding eggs to them. It is getting harder to find a simple flavor that is still unadulterated. I would think they have to put peanut oil on the label regardless, right? But I am alread trusting something that is likely shared equipment, albeit washed. I have never seen peanut oil listed on any of their flavors. Huh. I will look now and rethink my choice. becca

Posted on: Fri, 08/13/2004 - 7:25am
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Quote:Originally posted by jeancbpugh:
[b]We use Breyer's ice cream: vanilla, coffee, chocolate, mint chip, and Take Two (vanilla and chocolate).
We are avoiding peanuts and watermelon.[/b]
I'm not sure if you'll check back to this thread, but if so, are you comfortable with those flavors becasue you know that they aren't run after the peanut/nut ice creams, or is it just a comfort zone issue? I'd love to expand beyond Breyers Vanilla!
ALso, I know it's been mentioned in other threads, but it seems relevant here. I have a Cuisenart ice cream maker, and I love it. It's easy to use, and I love the home made ice cream taste. The ingredients that need to be purchased, though, can make it a fairly pricey quart of ice cream!

Posted on: Mon, 08/16/2004 - 5:02am
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A recent FDA study indicated that one out of every four packaged ice cream products is contaminated with nuts or peanuts. These odds are too high for my family. I hope the passage of FALCPA will result in some changes in the way ice cream is manufactured and labeled. In the meantime, we only eat soft ice cream, Philly Swirl, Hoodsie Cups (currently made on a dedicated line) or homemade.

Posted on: Mon, 08/16/2004 - 7:03am
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Colleen's Mom- Is this the study you were referring to?
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Posted on: Mon, 08/16/2004 - 2:27pm
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DS AGE 7 PA CANADIAN .... WE WERE EXSTAIC TO FIND CHAPMAN'S ICE CREAM. AND EVEN MORE EXCITED TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR POPSICLES, FUDGICLES, REVELS AND ICE CREAM SANDWICHS ...
A PETITION OR PHONE CALLS TO THE MANUFACTURER NEVER HURT ... ONE OF OUR LEADING CHOC. BAR MANUFACTORS (NESTLE) WAS ABOUT TO MAKE ALL PRODUCTS IN THEIR FACTORY WITH PEANUTS ... THEY HEARD OUR CRIES AND REVERSED THEIR DECISION AND HAVE ALSO INCORPORATED SAFE TO SHARE SYMBOLS ON PRODUCT MADE AT THE NUTFREE FACILITY.

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Quote:Originally posted by KIMBERLY:
[b]DS AGE 7 PA CANADIAN .... WE WERE EXSTAIC TO FIND CHAPMAN'S ICE CREAM. AND EVEN MORE EXCITED TO LEARN ABOUT THEIR POPSICLES, FUDGICLES, REVELS AND ICE CREAM SANDWICHS ...
A PETITION OR PHONE CALLS TO THE MANUFACTURER NEVER HURT ... ONE OF OUR LEADING CHOC. BAR MANUFACTORS (NESTLE) WAS ABOUT TO MAKE ALL PRODUCTS IN THEIR FACTORY WITH PEANUTS ... THEY HEARD OUR CRIES AND REVERSED THEIR DECISION AND HAVE ALSO INCORPORATED SAFE TO SHARE SYMBOLS ON PRODUCT MADE AT THE NUTFREE FACILITY.[/b]
No need to yell =). . .
(In the on-line world, typing in "all caps" is generally read as the typist yelling.)

Posted on: Wed, 10/13/2004 - 1:32am
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probably off topic by now, but i think the twisted ben & jerry's you were talking about is 1/2 browinie batter and 1/2 cookie dough. i eat it when ds is sleeping, but the only kind we feed him is the breyers natural vanilla.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/20/2005 - 4:46am
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Wow...A lot of you are a lot more comfortable than I am. More power to you! Everytime I see a food recall on ice cream I shudder. I just can't bring myself to eat it. I would be so nervous. Luckily I went to Canada recently and had some Chapman's. Also, my boyfriend's mom makes me homemade vanilla.

Posted on: Mon, 06/20/2005 - 9:22am
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I have a Cuisinart and it makes soft ice cream in 20-30 minutes (can put in freezer to harden if you like it that way). The only ingredients in the vanilla (which is awesome by the way) are heavy cream, sugar, vanilla and milk. Would be safe for the egg allergic, I think (my son is only PA). We've put in safe choc. chips and some mint flavoring and it's great, too.
I, too, have seen many ice cream recalls - too many for my comfort level. When my oldest (non-PA) had his tonsils removed two summers ago, I got the Cuisinart. It makes great sorbets, too.

Posted on: Mon, 06/20/2005 - 10:42am
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NCMOM - would you mind telling me what model of ice cream maker you have. I'm thinking of getting one so my dd can enjoy some ice cream. Thanks,
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Posted on: Mon, 06/20/2005 - 1:47pm
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I've eaten ice cream almost every day of the summer each summer for 20 years and never had a problem...I just avoid the may contains. I like Dean's the best, and North Star ice cream bars (they even make a cone type thing with 3 types of chocolate and get this-it's NOT dipped in nuts like the rest of them!)
I've had the Ben & Jerry's Twisted Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough/Brownie ice cream you guys are talking about. I didn't have a problem with it, aside from the massive sugar overload.

Posted on: Tue, 06/21/2005 - 6:35am
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I just made my first batch of vanilla ice cream this morning. It is yummy. We have a Cuisinart ice cream maker. It was very easy to use and comes with recipes.
Now that my test run was successful, I will be branching out to make other flavors.

Posted on: Wed, 06/22/2005 - 9:33am
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I wouldn't mind joining anything that would make companies more aware of allergies and hopefully make products safer, however I feel like there are more pressing issues than dedicated food lines. For example convincing the FDA that peanut oil should be considered an allergin and listed as such, because not all peanut oil is pressed therefore not all of it is peanut protein free. Also mandating that the drug companies list what type of lechitin (sp?) goes into a drug. I was born with my allergy 41 years ago we didn't even have ingredient lists on everything then, let alone may contain or manufactured on the same lines. Also whoever heard of toll free numbers or calling a company. I was taught to be careful read the ingredients if they are listed if not and you want it bad enough have someone taste it for you, if no one was around and I wanted to take that chance remember and these are my mom's words "You're Alone how will you get your medicine and to the hospital?" I learned quickly and always was polite in refusing.
Now on to the ice cream never not once have I ever or will I ever give up my ice cream do I read the ingredients? Of course I do. Do I worry sometimes when eating an ice cream from the local ice cream parlor? Yes definitely, but I don't live in a bubble and ice cream is literally my favorite food, next to chocolate. Yankee I feel sorry for you that you won't allow yourself to eat ice cream trust me you can't live frightened of every food everyday or you will never have any sanity. As frightening as my reactions are they are very few and I always remind myself that I have my medicine if anything should happen and unless I do something really dumb it won't. I am sorry to go off on a tangent but sometimes it upsets me more to see how some of you limit yourselves instead of embracing the life you have. I have far more medical conditions than just PA that daily restrict my life and I thank God that my mother never allowed my PA/NA to completely take over my life growing up because I believe it taught me responsibility and moderation.
Another side note some B&J ice creeam has pure soy flour in it so that may be what caused the reaction there.
btbear1 PA/NA/soy/multi drug allergies/enviromental allergies/asthma and to my horror recently injured back so I can't work I'm not asking for pity just remember life can be hard or not, now I am dependent at times on other's reading my ingredients when I can't shop for myself.

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