Reaction last night...

Posted on: Wed, 09/22/2004 - 1:51pm
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Well, this section of the boards has not been active for a while and I was so excited that no one was having reactions! Then WHAM! Out of the blue I had a serious reaction last night and I can't even figure out what I was reacting to.

Took DS to baseball practice last night. Came home with legs a little itchy and nose a little drippy from the grass/weeds. Put kids to bed, grab a yogurt and head upstairs to work on the computer. Midway through my yogurt I notice my nose really stuff up. Just after I finish the cup my eyes start itching and then my mouth and throat begin to burn/itch like they're filled with fire ants. Within 3 minutes I've got hives on the whites of my eyes, face is itching, hives on the roof of my mouth and inside both cheeks and I've gotten very sleepy. Turn off computer and go downstairs to look for benadryl. Call DH at work (he had to work all night) to see if he used all the benadryl - YEP. Finally find one children's chewable and 2 adult zyrtec - take all 3. I'm very nervous at this point, but really in a bind bc DH can't leave work and I've got 2 kids asleep in bed. Had it been one of them reacting I would have given them epi without hesitation, but I didn't give it to myself. My throat felt a little tight and had it gotten any tighter I would have given it to myself - luckily I didn't have to. I never did have any asthma problems and my heart rate was good. Did have some diarrhea but that could have been nerves, too.

After about 30 minutes, the symptoms began to subside, and DH got off the phone with me so I could go to bed. He called every 1-2 hours the rest of the night.

I'm fine today other than being tired. I did notice some throat itching and inside my chest itching this afternoon as the antihistamine started to wear off...

Anyway, WHAT THE HECK DID I REACT TO?? The yogurt was Yoplait that I've had thousands of times before. Has anyone ever had problems with them? I did notice the packaging was colored a bit differently (updated?). Milk's not the problem - had cheese today at lunch. The grass/weed stuff shouldn't have done an ingestion type reaction. The only other possibility I could think of was that I may have been bitten by a fire ant at the ballpark. DD got bitten and I do remember a stinging on my toe and rubbing it for a minute. No mark on my toe today and I think if it was a reaction to a bite the bite itself would be reacting or something wouldn't it?

I just hate not knowing what I have to avoid!!

Rebekah

Posted on: Wed, 09/22/2004 - 9:39pm
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Sorry to hear of your reaction. It's so scary to be home with kids, needing medical attention and not being able to get it!
I'm not sure which yogurt it is (I didn't really pay attention because it's a brand I never buy anyway) is making a peanut butter squeezable. Could it be Yoplait - cross contamination? They don't sell it at my regular market, but if I go to the bigger market in town today I'll check.
Did you save the yogurt packaging, just in case?
I hope you feel OK today.
Amy

Posted on: Wed, 09/22/2004 - 10:23pm
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rebekahc, I'm sorry to hear of your reaction. I think it was something at the ball park since you seemed to have minor symptoms before you got home and ate the yoghurt. I'd have the yoghurt checked regardless if you can, but I don't think it's that IMHO.
I would think if you got bit by a fire ant (or stung, whatever), that the area around the bite would also be affected.
Anyone eating peanuts at the ball park last night? Near you?
I'm sorry, I forget what your other food allergies are (soy?).
I just learned this week that grass is cross-reactive with peanuts - could it be something to do with the grass?
Also, from what you posted about your reaction, wow. I think it's really important that you get some kind of back-up plan in case you do need the Epi-pen and need to get to the hospital. I do understand being completely alone with two children and having NO ONE to turn to for back-up should I get sick (I was alone most all last year in Belleville). But if you do have anyone close, a friend or family member, I would just do a check with them and say, hey, if DH is working and this ever happens again, could you take the kids.
Of course, if worse comes to worse, and you did have to give yourself the Epi-pen and dial 911, you'd have to take the children with you I guess.
Did you eat anything new yesterday? Aside from the yoghurt (which was new packaging)?
How are you feeling to-day?
Big hugs. Glad you're okay enough to post. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 09/23/2004 - 1:07am
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Sorry to hear about your reaction and your being alone with the kids, must have been scary.
To me it sounds like you were already reacting from the grasses at the field and the yogurt pushed you over the edge. Maybe someting in the yogurt? Or was it entirely the grasses?
Did you shower after you came home?
I'd check out the yogurt too but there might be something in there you mildly react to but tonight you did it big because you were already full up from the grasses.
Good luck
peggy

Posted on: Thu, 09/23/2004 - 4:41am
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I wish you had called 911 and given yourself epi!! We all tend to downplay our symptoms and think about our kids but the best predictor of surviving anaphylaxis is epinephrine within the 1st 5 minutes. You had more than 2 systems reacting so epi would not have harmed you. I do know a man who waited and did not survive. He took benedryl and was waiting for his wife to come home from work in 10 minutes. Just a thought--I hope you will act differently, perhaps, next time.

Posted on: Thu, 09/23/2004 - 5:08am
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I agree with the above but did not say that in my response, the reason? I understand the feeling of being trapped in the house with kids needing you and the feeling of
[b]Not wanting to make a fuss.[/b]
And that is something that will expose ourselves and our kids to such danger.
I fight that everytime something happens to me and saw that for years working in ICU.
That's why I made sure my son spoke to paramedics who reinforced that he should be calling 911 rather than worrying about making too much of a fuss.
The sight of a screaming ambulance coming to someone who is just sitting there not looking too ill is odd but we all know what is going on inside that person and how much we really need to see and hear that screaming ambulance.
I think that each of us that have small children should develop a network of people who will help us out in an emergency. I say this living in the city. I cannot imagine what people who live in a more isolated situation would do but I feel pretty certain the paramedics are trained to deal with the children of someone having a reaction.
Peg

Posted on: Thu, 09/23/2004 - 2:32pm
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Thanks for your responses guys! Yes, I know you are right - I should have used my epi - it's just so hard convincing yourself of that! I feel fine today - the last lingering itchiness was gone by this morning. Several people at work were very upset with me when they heard about the reaction - one even cried - and all told me I should have called them. Unfortunately, the closest one lives at least 20-25 minutes away. I do have one neighbor I could probably have left the kids with, but with DS's severe multiple food allergies it would have been risky. I have never trained her to care for him since he only goes down there when I'm home.
Amy - no, I didn't save the packaging... I had the cup which said for any questions keep the lid and call. I had thrown the lid out with the trash before I reacted, and the next afternoon when I read that on the cup the lid was long gone.
ATM - thanks for the hug [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]. No, no one was eating peanuts at the practice. The ballpark hasn't been used for a few months and this was our first practice for fall ball. The fields hadn't been maintained well and were surrounded by tall grasses and weeds. I am highly allergic to grass (my skin test welts lasted a week), but have never reacted like that! Wheezing, sneezing, itchy - yes; but never all internal stuff like this time. I do suspect that probably my bucket was already full, so whatever I was reacting to pushed me over the edge. I just need to make sure I strictly avoid whatever it was from now on in case my bucket is full again. I don't recall eating anything new yesterday and hadn't eaten for at least 8 hours before the yogurt.
Peggy - I hadn't showered, but I had washed my hands, face, and legs.
Again, thank you all!
Rebekah

Posted on: Thu, 09/23/2004 - 3:46pm
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Rebekah,
For some reason we had to be gone for the day and left DS home with a bad bad asthma cough.
I wish I could remember what was so important we be gone for so long and leave him home sick but I can't. One thing I know I hardly ever left him so it must have been important.
I went over to my neighbors and showed them how to use the nebulizer, epi pen and whatever else DS might have needed while we were gone.
I followed all that up in big clear writing so they could follow directions if they got worried.
Besides the fact that DS knew it all anyway, he was maybe 12.
Well nothing happened, DS played video games all day and did fine.
What did happen however was I raised the awareness of one set of my neighbors. Not my first choice but the ones home that day.
When DS had a reaction at school I ran and left MIL here alone. I called the neighbor and had her explain where I had gone to MIL who is elderly, mostly blind and deaf.
It really helped that I had an available neighbor to fill in for me with MIL and that neighbor was well informed.
I would bring a coffee cake and some coffee over to a neighbor some day and familiarize them with whatever you need to keep your child safe.
My opinion is that we MUST ask our neighbors for help because some day we are going to need them and they are going to need us. Might as well get help from someone who is informed.
Good luck.
Peggy
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