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Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 2:37pm
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

We were posting at the same time...
RE: DH he's waiting on you to find the solution...Don't just love 'em, they can always be found, alert and all ears when they want that something can't they? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 3:00pm
rj's picture
Joined: 01/19/2003 - 09:00

Does that teacher stay up all night thinking of ways to be evil? If they thought this isn't a safe reward shouldn't they have planned a safe day in the beginning? They knew he was in the classroom, it isn't as if he started in the room a day ago. The saying goes "what comes around goes around". rj

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 3:26pm
cynde's picture
Joined: 12/10/2002 - 09:00

I can't believe it!!!! I'm with rj, they need to make plans for a safe field trip. Not wait until the last minute then exclude Jesse [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/mad.gif[/img]. I think legal advice is what's needed now (sad that it comes to that).

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 6:58pm
williamsmummy's picture
Joined: 03/26/2002 - 09:00

hello cindy.
I have not been on line for some time and have missed the thread about Jesses last reaction. I did read something about it , but have not read the details.
Were Jesses school teachers as useless as they were with my son? If you remember he had a reaction in his first term at school and they hadnt a clue what was going on!
I may be jumping totally up the wrong tree, but, bearing in mind if the school fouled up last time and let Jesse come in contact with peanuts are they now feeling worried about their abilites to cope with avoiding a reaction / contact with Jesse.? ( or does jesses teacher not care about her pupils?!!!!! perhaps she needs reminding that teaching is a vocation. )
Are they really asking how they should approach nut avoidance for Jesse?
Does the school plan list the steps to take in this particular instance?
has Jesse been to bowling before , Does He know what steps to take?
I have found that some of the teachers at school are now Very careful with william and I have found myself really pushing for the low key approach, ie nut avoidance is a normal part of his/our life . Of course, then again, some agency teachers just look totally blank and dont know what the hell I am talking about!!!!
You are very right to insist that Jesse attend , he is a normal healthy child , there is no real reason why his life shouldnt be as normal as possible. And, he may be brill at bowling!!!
keep in touch and let us know how things are going.
bye sarah

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 10:51pm
steveandleslea's picture
Joined: 10/11/2002 - 09:00

I never did see that thread about Jesse's last reaction, either. I am interested in more details about why his teacher now considers your direct questions to *her* about *your* son's health as harassment.
Quite seriously, I think all of this year's activity between the teacher, the prinicipal, etc. needs to be reported to not only the superintendent, but whatever other higher level officials you can report to. Here in the States I would suggest calling Child Protective Services, calling the state about this woman's license to teach, calling the teacher's union (not to complain, but to gather info on their own in-house rules & regs), calling the school board (usually community leaders elected to the position), and definitely, definitely, definitely CALL THE MEDIA. I would be on the phone w/ every reporter in my city who has ever done a news story about a child. I would talk to TV, newspaper, radio, you name it.
Call the homeschoolers' league for support. (They will probably have great ideas of people at school to contact & complain). Rally your church around this. In other words, gather together a mob of sympathetic human beings. Right now you are just one squeaky wheel with a precious little boy who wants to be liked and will say "that's okay, Mommy" to this abusive and reckless teacher. She may be a certifiable child abuser, or she may have absolutely the worst judgment of anyone of all time, but in either case, she should not be allowed around children. I am as serious as a heart attack. Next year Jesse will move on to grade 3 and she will likely get another allergy kid in her class--and if this problem isn't resolved now, guess who is going to bear the brunt of this woman's dysfunction? All her anger at you and all her abuse will be poured out on the next kid, and the next kid, and the next kid.
She sounds like she doesn't want to be troubled. But *troubled* is exactly what this woman is.
And, so help me, if someone were doing this to my child--if my child had an anaphylactic reaction in a teacher's classroom and that teacher didn't move to help, I would find a way to have her *arrested*. I can promise you, she would have made the 6 o'clock news by now.
As for your DH, I am speechless. Steve is a laid-back guy, but when it comes to his son's health, he is way more fiery than I am (if you can imagine that). He would probably go to the school and demand to replace the teacher himself since she isn't capable of doing her job.
Good luck, Cindy. We are rooting for Jesse.

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 11:37pm
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

Cindy, I'm so sorry for you and Jesse. Here is the link to the Standards of Practice for teachers in Ontario. It may help you.

Posted on: Mon, 01/27/2003 - 11:39pm
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Joined: 09/21/2000 - 09:00

[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] You have taken a lot of time and energy into thinking things through and documenting that I don't have much to offer. I just wanted you to know that I feel horrible for what you and DS are going through and that DH doesn't seem to be "stepping up to the plate".
The only things that I have to offer (you have probably already done):
-- make sure you are keeping copies and backing up copies of all of your letters and e-mails to and from the school.
-- Find out who the schools solicitor (attorney) is and try to cc the atty on your info.

Posted on: Tue, 01/28/2003 - 1:03am
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Joined: 12/12/2002 - 09:00

I would tell the principal to inform the bowling alley and the parents that no nut candies would be allowed to be sold to or purchased by Jesse's group. Maybe they could pass out a snack, so purchasing them would not be necessary. Then I would take Ember and go to the bowling alley-- it is a public place.
So far as the bigger picture is concerned, I think many good suggestions have already been given.
Our school district also discourages non-designated parents and siblings from going on field trips. They lost a child at the zoo last year (for a while) after forbidding his mom from going on the trip. Unbelievably dumb policy.

Posted on: Tue, 01/28/2003 - 1:04am
wood145's picture
Joined: 09/10/2001 - 09:00

I think your letter(s) to the principal were great. I'm so sorry you are going through this, wish I had more to add. In our school district the school nurse or the parent has to go on the field trips. I go when I can but I'm sure their will be a time when I can't go. My school is not nut free (they serve PB&J EVERYDAY in the cafeteria [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) but they come through in other ways.
Good luck.

Posted on: Tue, 01/28/2003 - 1:19am
williamsmummy's picture
Joined: 03/26/2002 - 09:00

What would going to the media achieve?
Will it make the school staff more receptive to cindys requests? or would it just make them more agressive ? Would it really help the next allergic child this woman has to face?
Dont you feel that any negative reporting on a school will backfire a little ?
You are so lucky to have the law on your side already , in the uk the guidelines are there , but are purely that, guidelines. On rare occasions children with allergies have been refused places or only offered with the understanding that the staff will not use epi -pens. But these are Very rare, teaching is still a vocational employment.
Head teachers can make those sort of choices , but still there are ways to apeal and get things sorted.
I feel that a calm common sense approach often works, being firm about what simple steps need to be taken, to avoid contact with peanuts, knowing how you stand legaly does help, I planned what route to take with the education authority and the parent governers if things did not improve.
My son had a reaction during his first year at school, there was a huge list of things that went wrong. Then i realised that they just saw me as an over anxious mother.
After i had calmed down I did think about the press. But I realised that it would not help me in the long run, I still wanted to my child to attend this good school, and I still had to deal with the head teacher.
It took a long time, and tons of stress before I got what i wanted. I found that if I had no joy with the head teacher ,each class teacher was wonderful and only to happy to have the training and happy to phone me with any question they may have about william.
I do feel sad that it took a trip to hospital to achieve this, but now after 2 years we are reaping the rewards of such good clear comunication with the teachers.
They have learnt a great deal about life with allergy, and feel confidant that they will be able to cope with any more allergic children. After coping with my multiple allergic son, any one with just one allergy will be fairly easy!!!
And , best of all , for me i now know the teachers better and TRUST them with William. Something I would never have thought possible.
I really wish cindy the best of luck whatever advice she takes with the school.



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