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Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 6:41am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
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BTW, I realize you don't even have kids... and I think it's very cool you're discussing this... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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This was said to Eric. I would like to add that I also think it's cool you're discussing this. And I'm also glad that when I disagree with you, you don't take offense. Usually, I'm just [i]trying[/i] to point out that although we live in the same city the different boards did things differently.
Having you here means I can feel OK about coming too. I don't have a pa child, but I do have a son in an *allergy aware* school. I've also been involved in the school system as a parent for 17 years. (Yikes - I've still got 11 to go [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] )

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 6:59am
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Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[BAnd I'm also glad that when I disagree with you, you don't take offense.[/B]
Yes, you can say what you want - no need to walk on eggshells (note I didn't say peanut shellls.. haha).. I will not be offended by your comments or opinions. I find them very interesting and informative.
And I guess since you are in this topic without a PA child, it also means it's ok for me to be here [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 7:10am
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I've heard that with the decriminalization of pot, Canadians will be implementing "drug safe zones." They decided on this terminology because when they tested it on various potheads, the standard response was, "Wow man, cool. A place where we're safe to do drugs. Rock on Jean!"
With over 80% believing "drug safe" meant it was a safe place to do drugs, 10% percent believing it meant that it was a safe place to keep their drugs, and another 10% unable to respond because they couldn't remember the question, "drug safe" was considered the most appropriate term. These Zones will be marked with the official cannabis flag which closely resembles the Canadian flag with the exception that all red areas will now be green and the maple leaf of course will be replaced with the cannabis leaf.

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 7:13am
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Thanks river [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
But since my heads been spinning lately anyway, will you all forgive me if I try posting after walking down the street?

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 8:31am
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b] Gail,
Did you "scream"?
Did you "fight"?
Did you [i]need[/i] to?
I have a difficult time imagining you doing either (also difficult, as I don't know what you look like, but suspect you dress tastefully.........Jones New York? Liz? Anne Klein? D.K.N.Y?) but, hey, I could be wrong.
MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
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[b]Scream? [/b] No, definitely not. (The only time I can truly remember screaming in the last 5 years would be today, in the OT thread. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img] ) I can imagine if my pricipal read this, she'd raise her eyebrows and say, "Well, you certainly raised your voice at times." True. It was tense, sometimes very tense, but always civil.
[b]Fight? [/b] My maternal urges definitely [i]felt [/i] like "fight" as opposed to "flight". The whole experience was extremely stressful.
[b]Did I need to? [/b] We are satisfied with the result, and so, feel successful in our approach. I think our situation called for persistence. I needed to be very, very persistent. (The school staff called me "the velvet hammer" remember? I kept hammering... to keep it on their agenda and to keep the process moving along.)
It wasn't an easy, straight forward process. It was exhausting. And I would do some things differently (like get a 504 instead of our IHP).
I'm not claiming that my situation is the best or the only sucessful one by any stretch. And I've even changed my opinions about a couple things that I earlier claimed Mariah needed. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] But we did manage to obtain district guidelines and a legally binding IHP that delineates what the school does (preventively) to keep Mariah safe... including a ban on all food in her classroom.
Gail
BTW, I'm more of a Talbot's woman... but [i] only [/i] on sale. And I don't want or have a lot of clothes. I'm all about "return on investment" (which is why I'm still driving an ugly now-8-year-old teal minivan.) [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 8:44am
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Quote:Originally posted by river:
[b]Schools that use the term drug-free in their policies:
[url="http://www.usd458.k12.ks.us/les/handbook/drugfree"]http://www.usd458.k12.ks.us/les/handbook/drugfree[/url]
[url="http://mililaniuka.com/Handbook/HandbookDrugs.asp"]http://mililaniuka.com/Handbook/HandbookDrugs.asp[/url]
[url="http://www.ops.org/fclub/Drug-Free.html"]http://www.ops.org/fclub/Drug-Free.html[/url]
[url="http://www.upson.k12.ga.us/ulsp/handbook22.html"]http://www.upson.k12.ga.us/ulsp/handbook22.html[/url]
[url="http://connect.juilliard.edu/staffhandbook/policies.asp"]http://connect.juilliard.edu/staffhandbook/policies.asp[/url]
[url="http://www.sahuarita.k12.az.us/site/shs/shs_hb/shs_hb2.html"]http://www.sahuarita.k12.az.us/site/shs/shs_hb/shs_hb2.html[/url]
Anyway...it goes on and on and on.
No one is afraid to use the term drug-free because it is always accepted for what it is:
a call for action and a plainly worded expectation
It is not a legal description of the schools and it is not a guarantee.
Why then would this message change when the word 'peanut' is substituted for 'drug'?
"Peanut-free" in an ingredients label is a legal description and guarantee of the product within.
"Peanut-free" on the door of a classroom has the same significance and meaning as the sign beside it that says, "drug-free."
Drug-free gun-free signs:
[url="http://www.street-signs-usa.com/48/cat48.htm?419"]http://www.street-signs-usa.com/48/cat48.htm?419[/url]
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Yes they use the terms drug-free and gun-free (thank you river, BTW, for finding them).
But did you actually read them? They all use the words "unlawful pocession" and "illicit" and state that they are upholding [b]LAWS [/b].
If you substitute the word "peanut" for the word "firearm" or "drug" (as you suggest), [b]it doesn't work [/b]. These are not comparable.

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:11pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] I'm all about "return on investment" [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
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[b]obviously[/b] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
[i]That and a woman of taste?[/i] (just a hunch-----------Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's "1000 thread count".)
BTW, I'm all about "return on investment" as well. Note my family pic. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] I'd say I have a "sense".

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:14pm
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Hey Momma Bear..
I just noticed that I (1439) have more posts than you (1428)... haha
Ok.. back to our regularly scheduled postings..... sorry for the interruption

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 1:09pm
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Quote:Originally posted by erik:
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Hey Momma Bear..
I just noticed that I (1439) have more posts than you (1428)... haha
Ok.. back to our regularly scheduled postings..... sorry for the interruption [/b]
Erik, you crack me up.
Turtle, turtle,
Gail (692, less than half you two. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] )

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 1:13pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Cam's Mom:Not neccessarily a fundamental difference in experience....more like a difference in how we put our views to different situations in life. My experience and liability as a Licensed Realtor is that I am accountable for things that I have knowledge about or that I can visually see, but if I can't see it and have no knowledge it's there than I'm not liable by state law.
However, I don't put my professional knowledge and experience to every detail of every situation...one set of rules can't apply to every situation. Your healthcare experience and standards aren't standards for every situation.
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No. Not every situation. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] But, I'd venture to say I'm in the ballpark. LOL. Can't help it if I find my chosen profession to be [i]enlightening[/i] as well as [i]life oriented[/i].
However, my experience is either based on or has yielded (a chicken or egg deal here...........):
*Some finely honed Critical Thinking Skills [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
*A devotion to Ethical-Moral Principles [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
*A strong Desire to Advocate. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
*As well as a Desire and Ability to help and encourage others to Improve Their Quality and Quantity of Life. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Would you say our experiences [i]fundamentally[/i] different?
MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/cool.gif[/img]
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form.

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