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Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:24am
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Synthia, you going with me?? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Anna Marie, I'm glad that you did raise the question as to whether or not there is such a term gun free...I'm glad that you pointed it out. So maybe we should re-phrase everything to a "zero tolerence" in regards to pnuts [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Gail, I didn't mean to imply that no one but Joey got my point, sorry, it did sound that way. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
My reason for raising this thread was to compare the difference of how people interpret one thing w/the "free" status, how it reduces the risks no matter what it is and the liability that goes along w/it. But in it I also wanted to point out my opinion of how the school can ban what they want and hold to it. Yes, the confederate flag here at our schools has raised a major uproar, has for months, and probably will continue until Cameron goes to school and they have a new item to have an uproar about, lol. But all joking aside, that is what will happen IF they declare a peanut free status for the classroom.
It may be petty comparing gum, beepers, phones and logos to peanuts, but in all reality only one of these that I mention can actually cause harm to a student, so why is it that the administrators freak out when a parent asks for such a little compromise.
I do plan taking this to the state and proposing Statewide guidelines, after I get my little man in a safer environment, simply so another parent doesn't have to endure all the pain, frustration and emotions that I'm (and other FA parents) going through today because Cameron has a life threatening allergy that no one outside the FA community wants to accept.

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:25am
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Quote:Originally posted by Cam's Mom:
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If the school declares a PF classroom and another student brings in a pnut product and the teacher doesn't see the product, reaction occurs...the school can't be liable b/c it has done what it can to protect the student.
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No. I don't think so. I think they could be held liable. We held this contention to our school for Mariah's contact reations...that they were liable (tho we danced around that particular word) for them.
Lana, Why do you think they would not be liable?
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Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:28am
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Gail, you forgot to take your anti-paranoia pill today.... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
My opinion is how we view the things mentioned here, IMO, its not about supporting not supporting bans.
But that is JMHO! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:41am
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Quote:Originally posted by Cam's Mom:
[b]Gail, you forgot to take your anti-paranoia pill today.... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
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You're right. I'll have to remember to start taking it before coming here!
Of course another popular alternative would be for you to "re-direct" me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:41am
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33 postings in this thread alone since 10 am today? wow..
In case anyone wonders why I have posted less recently.. there's so much to read it is hard to find time to post ... I'll have to catch up sometime [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:43am
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Gail, You sure have my head spinning today...hehe, love to get that brain working.
I don't think they would be liable b/c they have took action and made a reasonable attempt to provide safety...the same goes for the alcohol incident, the school can't be held liable had they not seen it. Because they made reasonable efforts to keep it out as best as they could.
Maybe I should re-phrase my words from can't to shouldn't, I'm not a lawyer these are my viewpoints entirely.
We could use any liability issue/cases as examples...last year when a grocery cart rolled and dinged my car, I wanted them to pay to have it fixed, we talked to someone who is a lawyer and b/c the grocery store has cart holders, they are not liable, had the store not had the cart holders or an employee was in control of the cart they would have been liable. But they can't be responsible for other peoples negligence even though its on their own property.

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 8:59am
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Quote:Originally posted by Cam's Mom:
[b]I don't think they would be liable b/c they have took action and made a reasonable attempt to provide safety....[/b]
Our school maintained that it is [b] not reasonable [/b] (or practical, or possible) to expect parents or staff to determine what was safe. They used this same scenario came to the opposite conclusion: they believed it *increased* their liability if they allowed anyone other than the FA child's parent to make a determination about food safety.
Hence, their creation of a "food free" classroom.

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 10:34am
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Gail W You did not misinterpreted this thread
Cam's mom has raised a very good point.
The schools can say no gum,or beepers and many other items,but to protect a life they can't or won't ban peanuts or even try to make a (reduce the risk) school or class room with out parents having to put up a fight or unless they are forced to.
Or unless we the parents scream loud enough or fight long enough.
The issue is a CHILDS LIFE is at stake.
We the parents should not have to FEAR for our childs life while in the school system.
Lana YES I will go with you!!
Love this site
Synthia

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 10:59am
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Lana, synthia, anyone?
Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b]Lana, How would you propose the school implement your request for a PF cafeteria table and PF classroom?
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Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 11:01am
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Also wondering about this:
Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]so.
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING:
If the term "Peanut free" was stated below the ingredient label on a package of cookies, and your pa child ate some and had anaphylactic reaction resulting in near death, what would would you do as a parent if it was determined the reaction came from peanut in the cookie?
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