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Posted on: Thu, 10/23/2003 - 1:57pm
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Abbylukesmom, finally back to finish my post. You asked about recipes. Between milk, eggs, and peanut allergy, it is hard to find ones that taste like anything real. I have a great chocolate cake recipe---I re-raised the thread. It is in the thread about Duncan Hines. It definitely does not taste like anything is missing. Cookies that are without milk are hard to find. Some packages of chocolate mini-oreos are milk free, but some packages that look exactly the same do have milk, so you still have to read the ingredients on each pack. Plain oreos have milk, but uh-oh oreos are milk free. These are all made in a peanut free plant. However, they do have soybean oil, so I don`t know if that is a problem for your child`s soy allergy. Mine outgrew the soy allergy before this came up. If you followed a strict diet of milk/peanut/tree nut avoidance, I wonder if you could get your child off zyrtec. It is hard to know. Interesting that he was on four allergy meds, and it went down to one when he was diagnosed with milk allergy. My dd also has environmental allergies, but she is very well controlled on a nasal inhaler and a mouth inhaler. She has been on these daily for years. It has really cut way down on the asthma attacks. Let us know how it goes with the food diary and also how his symptoms are on strict milk avoidance.
P.S. Does anyone know why it is so hard to change our posts in the middle now? In order to change it, we now have to submit it and then go back and edit it. A few other people have commented on this. Does anyone know why this is happening?
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Posted on: Fri, 10/24/2003 - 6:23am
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Posted on: Fri, 10/24/2003 - 6:58am
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Sorry about that---I didn`t say anything because I already addressed that in my post above (Sept 28 11:27 A.M.). I didn`t want to be repetitive. Our allergist said not to. The reason he said is because the hives can resolve but the blood pressure can still be dropping. By giving Benadryl and then waiting to see if things will get better, you are losing time, and if the Epi is used too late it may not work. That is why Nathan died. Sorry to repeat. If my daughter had more than a few hives, I would use epi rather than take a chance on losing too much time and having the epi not work. When I used it, it worked within 60 seconds or less.

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Posted on: Thu, 11/06/2003 - 11:34am
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Benadryl may stop additional histamines from being released by the mast cells. BUT, if the histamine has already activated the reaction then it can't stop that activity. The histamines themselves don't do all the bad stuff, they travel out to other cells and tell them what to do- kind of a chain reaction. The impact of bendryl is basically to try to halt more histamines from joining the fray. That's why some doctors recommend a daily dose of antihistamine to keep it in the body's system at all times. (We do this b/c of environmental allergens). So for example, taking the benadryl after an exposure to pollen helps me a little, but I'm much better off if I've taken in advance of going outside.
I think even the epi doesn't actually stop the chain reaction so much as it counteracts their effects. That's why even with benadryl and epi, you still need to go to the ER. The meds can't stop the reaction permanently. You might get lucky and have it subside on it's own while the meds are working, but they really are only a stop-gap measure.
So basically, each medicine is working on a different stage of the reaction and once you start seeing systematic stuff- you are past the 'just stop the histamines' stage.
Again, that's just the impression that I've gotten reading here and there. You probably should talk to your doctor to get a clear directive as to when and under what circumstances the epi should be used.
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Posted on: Thu, 11/06/2003 - 11:49am
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Found this link that might offer additional insight:
[url="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~aair/anaphylaxis.htm#SEC3"]http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~aair/anaphylaxis.htm#SEC3[/url]

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Posted on: Tue, 01/06/2004 - 11:26am
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Reraising for joao.

Posted on: Tue, 01/06/2004 - 2:34pm
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Thanks Carefulmom.
Ps: love the alias [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2004 - 2:44am
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abbylukesmom,
Your post caught my attention because my PA son sometimes scratches the palms of his hands until they are really red.....He used to have eczema, before we knew about PA and eliminated peanuts or may contains completely from our lives but I wonder what is causing his palms (only) to be so itchy, I do notice that they get really dry, I wonder if it's from the scratching, the dry air or something else, we started using a humidifer, it helps a little....we originally got it for his almost nightly nosebleeds (whole other thing) but , the palms thing has me perplexed. Also wanted to mention that this thread is very helpful, I get confused about when to use the epi, we have never had to use it yet but it's my understanding that if given un-necessarily that it cant hurt them....but if not given , it could end up killing them.
Thanks,
Lisa

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