Smarties Alert

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 12:24am
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I sitting here writing to you all and holding in my hand a small (treat size) box of smarties that say "allergy alert: may contain traces of nuts/peanuts".
I don't know if any of you have seen these but they come in a box that is covered in smarties in various colors, on the back is a monkey with information on the french words for all the colors for the smarties.
I looked at another box of smarties (treat size) it is blue in the background and also has smarties on it of various colors - these are safe.
So watch out for the other ones.

Has anyone experienced this before????

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 4:37am
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Hi
Can't say for sure, but you probably have an old box of Smarties from the period when Nestle Canada was going to change the processing facilities so they were no longer peanut/nut free. They had already manufactured boxes with the warning, based on the assumption the product would be unsafe. They reversed their decision on allowing peanuts/nuts in the factory, but used the packaging with warning until new packages were manufactured. You could check that it is made in Canada and could call the 1-800 number on the package for confirmation that it is safe. This year's treat-size packs are dark blue with multicoloured Smarties but no monkeys or games on them.
Sarah

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 4:55am
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Quote:Originally posted by gizmo:
[b]I sitting here writing to you all and holding in my hand a small (treat size) box of smarties that say "allergy alert: may contain traces of nuts/peanuts". [/b]
Hi,
Where did you find those Smarties? My guess is that they must be about 2 years old .. or more! Nestle Canada did add that warning to their packaging at one time as they were considering using tree nuts and peanuts in their facility, but the resulting uproar from consumers quickly nixed that idea. Nuts and peanuts were never allowed into the facility and the warning message was removed from the packaging.
Those chocolates must taste a bit stale by now? YOu may want to shop at a store that has fresher products.. haha [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 7:43am
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They are "safe". What you have been told by the two people that posted above is absolutely correct. That was the dilemma until Nestle Canada reversed their decision because there were boxes out there with the "may contain" labeling and I couldn't personally purchase them, even though I knew they were, in fact, "safe", because my son reads the labels as well and he was quite a bit younger than and I wasn't sure if he could follow the thinking or just be scared off.
I do know that I raised a question about whether or not anyone was buying the Smarties with the warning and it's here somewhere on the board.
Also, in contacting Nestle at the period in time to see how long we could stock-pile Smarties and other products before we decided en masse to boycott and TAKE ACTION instead, they gave us a shelf life of one year.
So, those are some old Smarties that should probably go in the garbage. But they are, in fact, "safe".
It was such a troubling time and I also think it was just such a tremendous victory for all of us, not only Canadians, because we worked together really well on this board in the TAKE ACTION thread and our voices were heard. That was an excellent feeling. And now, Nestle Canada has been able to capitalize, I believe, on having a "peanut free" line.
I wouldn't be surprised if I went back to the one horse town we moved here from two years ago if I didn't find Nestle products there with the warning on them still. I know that happened with the Trebor-Allan loot bags in that town because they just weren't moving, old stock.
I'll see if I get some time later this evening if I can find the thread where I asked if people were buying them with the "may contain" labeling regardless because we knew they were "safe". And also, for further information regarding this, although you have heard from The Candy Guru, erik, you may want to take a look at the Nestle thread under TAKE ACTION for all of the ins and outs of what went on with them.
Me, I'd probably eat the aged Smarties. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 8:05am
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Thanxs everyone!!!!!!!!!
These were in her halloween candy!!!!!!!! I feel so stupid when I make mistakes like this and don't check every dam label.
There is a new mini oreo out seen them today at the school - holiday ones with mint inside - there are no warnings and we all believe they are safe.
Thanxs again.
gizmo

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 10:24am
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glad to hear smarties are now safe. when my dtr was diagnosed with pa, a short time after (she was three at the time) i had eaten some they are my favorite treat, i kissed her and she welted up with hives on her face. i have since then avoied them. that was about three years ago. its gonna be hard to tell her they are safe since she is so programmed that they were not safe. thanks for the great news on these little treats~~~jordan's mom

Posted on: Wed, 11/12/2003 - 12:32pm
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jmarcustry
> I'm not sure we're talking about the same things, because afaik, Canadian Smarties have always been safe. They had the warning on the box because Nestle was thinking about changing their manufacturing process, but they came back on their decision. However they still used the boxes that had been ordered.
Maybe your kid is allergic to something other than peanuts?

Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 1:10am
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Yes, Canadian Smarties have always been safe. And I know 3 years ago (and today as well), American Smarties (Rockets) are safe too. It may have been a reaction to food colouring rather than peanuts, as I have heard of reactions occurring due to food colouring (as an example, one of the children in Alt to M's classroom was allergic to red food colouring).

Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 3:41am
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This summer, at duty-free airport shops in Paris and Lisbon, I saw giant packages of Nestle smarties, and would have bought them home, but something on the packaging (i wish i could remember exactly what) made me not buy them for my pa son. I think that they were imported from Germany maybe? I didn't trust them. There was english language on them, as well as french, and others, i believe. Just didn't seem right, and i didn't want to risk cross contamination. Oh, they would have been so happily received by my boy.........who could care less about souveniers (sp?). (i ended up at a toys-r-us in lisbon, buying mini construction equipment vehicles, in english, no less!)
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Posted on: Thu, 11/13/2003 - 4:37am
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Hi Neil's Mom,
Yes.. if they were imported from Germany you would want to avoid them. I think all of the products made by Nestle Germany may contain traces of nuts/peanuts.
The only safe Smarties I know of are those made by Nestle UK in Britain and by Nestle Canada in Toronto.

Posted on: Fri, 11/14/2003 - 2:09am
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Thanks, eric, I admit that recalling something i think you mentioned in the past on these boards about Nestle Germany not being safe was a major part of me putting that candy back on the shelf. Not being 100% sure, better safe than sorry. Thanks for keeping us all on the safer track!
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Posted on: Thu, 11/20/2003 - 9:42am
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darthecleo,
my dtr is only allergic to peanuts, positve thru bldwork and skin test. been positve for about 4 yrs now. the only smarties i am aware of are the ones that come in the little indiv. wrapped packages maybe the ones we have in the U.S. are diffrent from canada? and i'm not sure if nestles makes these ones. i was told by a friend that they use peanut oil to make them because it has a longer shelf life and they last longer in the packages. so now i am really confused on this little treat. ~~~~jordan's mom

Posted on: Thu, 11/20/2003 - 10:05am
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Hi Jordan's Mom,
The Nestle Smarties and the Ce De Candy Smarties (Rockets) are both made in peanut-free facilities (I eat them both frequently) and there is no peanut oil in either product - they have always been peanut-free. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Maybe it is a different type of candy that is coming in an individually wrapped package that contains peanut oil? I know these products do not contain any peanut oil. Are you sure they are called Smarties? Is there any other info on the packaging such as which company manufactures this product?
Smarties have always been made in a peanut-free facility, so maybe the allergy was due to artificial food colouring or some other ingredient in the product? Artificial colouring reactions are becoming more common these days.
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Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 10:03am
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hi erik,
after careful investigating... i unwrapped a smarties wrapper and read the teenie tiny print and it is indeed made by the ce de candy company!! one of the nurses where i work helped me enlarge the writing with photocopier!! i am sooooo relieved and it says made in canada!! yahooo a friend had told me they had peanut oil..wont be listening to that advice again..jordan will be so happy and she was tested for food coloring reactions and none so far so the only thing i can think of is i might have eaten something that contained a residue of peanut..i try to be very careful. and i kissed her. thank you so much for your help..smarties here we come!!! jordan's mom :O)

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