School incident

Posted on: Fri, 01/05/2001 - 4:12am
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Just wanted to let everyone know that this can and did happen - another thing to think about. This week at school, a boy in my daughter's class came in with peanut butter all over him. It was on his shirt, coat, backpack, and he got it on the wall when he hung up his coat. Actually, he was the one that noticed it and told the teacher. She acted quidkly and got him and his stuff out of the room. She had the room thoroughly cleaned. The boy's parents brought in clean clothes. The school nurse talked to the boy and his parents about the seriousness of it all. Thankfully, my daughter did not have a reaction, and didn't even freak out! One positive thing to come out of this is that I was able to see how well the school handled the situation, which makes me feel comfortable (as much as possible) with her being in their care.

Posted on: Fri, 01/05/2001 - 4:40am
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CarolynM, I feel sorry for your daughter in the situation definetly! BUT how in the H*ll does a child get out of their house without a parent or sitter noticing something this messy. I babysit and not one child is going to leave here dirty or with their hair uncombed. There have been times I am sure that they have missed a tooth brushing but the mess you are describing is discussting. I can not understand a parent not taking a little bit of pride in their child. I would also feel terrible for the child that was a mess because I can't imagine what his home is like. Please understand I would have freaked out over the whole thing on account of the allergy,but Why couldn't his parents tell he was such a mess. How sad. I am completly siding with you on this,but thinking about how some kids are so neglected in certain aspects of life. Best wishes and I do hope his parents learned a lesson of allergies. Claire

Posted on: Fri, 01/05/2001 - 7:26am
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Boy, sounds like the school reacted well. That's encouraging. Sorry about the stress it caused, but in a way it allowed the PA issue to resurface. Now, it will be on peoples minds again and make people more conscientious.

Posted on: Fri, 01/05/2001 - 7:47am
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Wow. . .great job on the teacher's part. Sounds like you've got a keeper there. Sorry it had to happen, but at least now you'll know that in the future it should be handled properly. Take care. Deanna

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 3:31am
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Oh my goodness, how scary. I am glad she is okay. Did she go to emergency and are you home? Make sure to watch her for the next several hours too. I hope everything is okay. Your nerves must be shot.
I am not in NY state, so cannot offer advice on rules/laws there, but wanted to offer support seeing you just posted this and must be a wreck at the moment! I would imagine, unless law prohibits her carrying it, that you have ample example why a policy against it is just a bad idea. People did not have ready access to it in the emergency. Thank goodness she is okay, but I do think they need to readdress their policy as to how they be sure the epipen is accessible at all times to anyone who might need to give it.
Hopefully, they are coming to that realization on their own. Had I been that teacher, I would want to be sure that never happened again. What an awful feeling for them as well, needing it and not having it right there. becca
[This message has been edited by becca (edited November 21, 2003).]

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 3:52am
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she was given the epipen and transported to the er for observation. she is now at home relaxing.
i will take this up with the school nurse and up as high as the school board, if necessary early next week.
thank you for your response. ill keep you posted.
Quote:Originally posted by becca:
[b]Oh my goodness, how scary. I am glad she is okay. Did she go to emergency and are you home? Make sure to watch her for the next several hours too. I hope everything is okay. Your nerves must be shot.
I am not in NY state, so cannot offer advice on rules/laws there, but wanted to offer support seeing you just posted this and must be a wreck at the moment! I would imagine, unless law prohibits her carrying it, that you have ample example why a policy against it is just a bad idea. People did not have ready access to it in the emergency. Thank goodness she is okay, but I do think they need to readdress their policy as to how they be sure the epipen is accessible at all times to anyone who might need to give it.
Hopefully, they are coming to that realization on their own. Had I been that teacher, I would want to be sure that never happened again. What an awful feeling for them as well, needing it and not having it right there. becca
[This message has been edited by becca (edited November 21, 2003).][/b]

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 4:37am
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I am not sure what the policies are for NY state, but I would be on the phone with the principal, and your allergist tootsweet.
Perhaps your allergist could provide you with some insights to your state laws, but you will also need to investigate this on your own.
You must have a meeting with your principal and head of the school district right away. Not being able to locate the pen is not acceptible. There should have been a plan in place for when the school nurse is not there or in the circumstances that you have pointed out here.
Your daughter is in 6th grade, so I would think that she would be old enough to carry around the pen herself. But that is for you, the school, the board and your doctor to decide.
I am glad to hear that she is doing well, and please keep us posted as to what you find and what you decide to do. This board is a great place to find out about 504 plans, IEPs etc. Check around, but I am sure that you will get some very sound advice here.
But in a nutshell, all of the advice will boil down to...you need to change this policy. The school will not do it without your urging or push.

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 4:58am
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thank you. i will let you know what info i find over the weekend. i plan on being at the school monday morning.
thank you
Quote:Originally posted by CorinneM1:
[b]I am not sure what the policies are for NY state, but I would be on the phone with the principal, and your allergist tootsweet.
Perhaps your allergist could provide you with some insights to your state laws, but you will also need to investigate this on your own.
You must have a meeting with your principal and head of the school district right away. Not being able to locate the pen is not acceptible. There should have been a plan in place for when the school nurse is not there or in the circumstances that you have pointed out here.
Your daughter is in 6th grade, so I would think that she would be old enough to carry around the pen herself. But that is for you, the school, the board and your doctor to decide.
I am glad to hear that she is doing well, and please keep us posted as to what you find and what you decide to do. This board is a great place to find out about 504 plans, IEPs etc. Check around, but I am sure that you will get some very sound advice here.
But in a nutshell, all of the advice will boil down to...you need to change this policy. The school will not do it without your urging or push. [/b]

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 7:25am
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What you describe is absolute negligence. I would be FURIOUS. I would also be on the phone daily and in their faces until things changed. How awful. So glad this didn't turn out the worst way it could've!

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 10:50am
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Here is information on New York laws regarding asthma and allergy information:
[url="http://www.aanma.org/cityhall/ch_childrights.htm#passedInhalers"]http://www.aanma.org/cityhall/ch_childrights.htm#passedInhalers[/url]

Posted on: Fri, 11/21/2003 - 11:15am
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Do you know the source of peanuts that triggered this reaction? Was it an airborne or casual contact reaction?
After having practiced using an Epi-pen on an orange (and seeing how large the needle is..and that you have to hold it in place for at least 10 seconds), I have my doubts if my middle school child could self inject ... especially when you throw in the side effects that begin happening that could disorient her. Another reason why it is so vital for the school (every teacher your child comes into contact with) be trained on how to deal with this emergency and to feel accountible for her safety. The school really dropped the ball here and need to prove to you they have learned from their poor handling of her medical emergency.
I think most schools have the policy of keeping meds. locked up because they are concerned about theft and if a child has meds. on them something could happen (i.e., another kid take them and misuse them) so they are reluctant not to lock them up. I've been told several times "not to worry" her Epi-pen would be locked up but there would always be "somebody" around with the key. Our schools don't have full-time nurses either. I was told the principal would be the back-up..because they didn't want the teachers to feel responsible. I feel my child can't go to a school where the teachers don't feel it is their responsibility to administer the Epi-pen so she has always been homeschooled.
My heart goes out to you. I hope your child is doing O.K. and you get them to see that next time your dc may not be so lucky.
I think getting a letter with recommendations from the allergy doc. about how this episode put her in danger and how it should have been handled may be in order...especially since parents of p.a. kids often are dismissed as just being overprotective.
Good luck and keep us posted.

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