Why are we actually adding to the NAET scam?

Posted on: Wed, 05/30/2001 - 7:29am
mom2two's picture
Joined: 06/09/2000 - 09:00

pI see now that in addition to the rude and vile posts from Jav and some of the other Naet troglodytes, we are actually reviving some of the old, what I had thought FORGOTTEN, Naet threads. I personally feel that this is a very dangerous way to proceed for those with a life threatening allergy to peanuts and that even by allowing so many threads on it it could look like this is a viable alternative treatment to many newcomers here. I can no longer be a part of the posters here for fear that some may inadvertantly believe this NAET garbage! This is exactly what the spammers from NAET are looking for./p

Posted on: Wed, 05/30/2001 - 1:47pm
California Mom's picture
Joined: 07/14/2000 - 09:00

I am in total agreement with you (other than the part about no longer posting) on this. It really bothers me to look at the daily topics today and see all this stuff about NAET. I am hoping that these threads will no longer be visible tomorrow. Miriam

Posted on: Fri, 06/01/2001 - 10:10am
BeeLeafMe's picture
Joined: 05/30/2001 - 09:00

Troglodyte? give me a break! You are the one subsisting in the dark ages! We are merely suggesting an approach that some of us have had success with. Do you think we would lie about such a life threatening issue.

Posted on: Fri, 06/01/2001 - 10:15am
BeeLeafMe's picture
Joined: 05/30/2001 - 09:00

In addition mom2two:
Here is a copy of a previous post:
I am a NAET indoctrinate!
I believe that we all know and understand the Western approach to treating medical aliments/symptoms, but why not understand or reconsider the Eastern approach. Both are an integral part of our personal journey to ultimate/peak health! And like it or not we are all at the helm of our own optimum health quotient.
I will quote from a great book I read "Between Heaven and Earth: A Guide to Chinese Medicine" by Harriet Beinfield. Here goes:
In the beginning of the century a survey of medical schools was subsidized by the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations. Its purpose was to find out which schools would be most interested in promoting the "scientific medicine," therefore promoting the newly developing drug- and hospital-based technology industries. The Flexner Report, issued in 1910 by the American Medical Association following this survey, recommended that financial support from the foundations be awarded only to medical schools committed to scientific research based on models developed in the nineteenth century. All therapies not based on the Cartesian model were considered unscientific and would therefore be disenfranchised. Only 20 percent of the existing medical schools survived. The other 80 percent adhered to the "vitalist doctrine," which asserted that "man assits, but nature heals." Naturopathy, homeopathy, and herbology were forced out of the mainstream and relegated to the status of folk medicine. They were ultimately driven under by lack of funds and political harassment.
Here are a few recommended reads:
"Between Heaven and Earth: A Guide to Chinese Medicine" by Harriet Beinfield ISBN 0-345-37974-8 for starters. And follow up with "Winning the War Against Asthma & Allergies" by Ellen Cutler ISBN 0-8273-8622-2. Next read "Say Good-bye to Children's Allergies" by Dr. Devi Nambudripad ISBN 0-9658242-8-4 and also "Say Good-bye to Illness" by Dr. Devi Nambudripad ISBN unavailable at posting time!
My impression is us "NAET" believers, promoters are to accept the status quo, ie being avoidance, however, how come you are not expected to accept our belief - I guess because it is not scientifically proven - well come now, let's think for ourselves - maybe outside of the BOX!
I challenge some of the skeptics to start on this path - it is a path that builds in quantum leaps from your own personal journey. From my personal reading and experience the Eastern approach is not so hung up on "scientific proof". The proof is in the doing, the personal path!
May I put the question to you: Why, would you not try any approach within your means, both financially and/or time wise, to address your children's peanut/nut allergy?
Do you think these people who promote NAET are lying to you? Why would they?
May I generously end with a take on an ancient eastern proverb: "When the student is ready the teacher will appear."
[This message has been edited by BeeLeafMe (edited June 01, 2001).]
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Posted on: Fri, 06/01/2001 - 10:38am
BENSMOM's picture
Joined: 05/20/2000 - 09:00

Since the last post was just added a few minutes ago, I will go against my own advice of not posting and therefore letting these threads get buried, and I will add my two cents.
I have read a little bit about NAET. I don't know if it works or not, but I wouldn't rule it out. Since my son is not severely allergic to peanuts, and may not even be allergic at all, and he's never had a RAST test, NAET doesn't seem like it tell me anything.
I understand that people were upset by the NAET posts after Nathan died.
What I don't understand in general is why anyone would be so hostile to people who have tried another approach. I can understand being annoyed by a pushy practitioner who comes on here to peddle his wares, but why the hostility toward people who have used this method? If you don't like, don't try it. Why the attacks? I think we should lay off the name calling and insults. If it sounds right for you to try, go for it. If it doesn't, don't use it. Everyone take a deep breath.

Posted on: Sun, 06/03/2001 - 6:23am
SharonA's picture
Joined: 11/16/2000 - 09:00

I had enjoyed coming to this board and gaining new information. I had enjoyed the opportunity to help others with this allergy. I had enjoyed coming onto this board and just having fun in the off topic conversations. But
I used the past tense for a reason.
I don't have problems with others talking about alternative approaches to medicine, but I do have trouble with the nasty, rude, disgraceful approach that these naetites have bombarded us with.
I have trouble with somebody thinking that it's their way or we are stupid, archaic, closed minded, etc. I have trouble with the "bad buy good guy scenario" of the naet practitioner sending the letter of apology.
Somehow, I don't trust any of the naetites that I have heard so far.
I'm scared that somebody coming onto this board will read all the posts and think that this treatment has medical validity. I'm worried and I'm sad.
I don't want to be part of somebody's death and sitting by silently and participating in any other part of this board, somehow makes me feel that I am giving support to this crock of s**t treatment. I won't be back.
I want to thank those of you who were so very helpful to me and hope that I continue to hear from those of you with whom I have been exchanging emails prior to all this fiasco.
Be safe

Posted on: Mon, 01/14/2002 - 3:49am
cammie caver's picture
Joined: 01/11/2002 - 09:00

Would someone explain to me what you all are talking about? I would be willing to try just about anything to help with this allergy. (so long as it is safe)

Posted on: Mon, 01/14/2002 - 4:22am
3mom's picture
Joined: 05/29/2001 - 09:00

Cammie: To answer your question regarding that naet "hot topic": naet is an alternative treatment of allergies. It is based on eastern philosophies and incorporates either accupuncture or accupressure to help eliminate your allergy. I believe it is such a sore subject here because some overzealous naet afficionadoes came onto this site and basically accused everyone of child abuse if they didn't pursue this for their pa children. This came on the heels of an incident in WA state where a child died after being exposed to a pb cookie on a school outing.
I, for one, do not blame the pa posters on this site for being angry at the naet posters. However, as one who has used naet to treat various allergies of my son, as well as conventional medicine, I'm not sure I understand why people are so opposed to anything alternative. But you know what? I don't have to understand. I feel everyone should do what they need to for their children, be it alternative or conventional, without discussion from anyone else.
Does naet work? Personally, I think so. It worked for me and several others I know. Will it work for everyone? I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. I guess it's like anything else. Some things work for some but not others. It is important to remember that my child was not anaphylactic, and in all honesty, I do not know if I would have pursued naet if he was. And if I did, I would be sitting with a cell phone in one hand and an epi-pen in the other. (Naet exposes you to a vial of what you are allergic to).
Unfortunately, naet has gotten a bad rap from those (naet)clods who posted here. Their timing was wrong, and they are unbelievably preachy and self-rightous. I stopped reading the naet website because of these people. Even the naet people got sick of them and basically booted them from their site. So a bunch of them got together and formed their own similar website.
I have learned so much from participating on this website, and to be fair, from the naet site, too. I think anything we read can only help us make informed decisions about our children's health. I don't think anyone has the right to question what we do for our kids. We are the parents and we know what's best.
My only hope is that naet is not judged on the actions of the few. Most of the naet advocates I know are just looking for other ways to help themselves. Many have tried more traditional methods for years and have not had much success.
I'm just a little tired of this argument. Bottom line: Do your research, and make an informed decision, and do what's right for you, and don't criticize anyone else's choice.

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