Who never takes their PA child out to eat

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 7:16am
Danielle's picture
Joined: 04/08/2003 - 09:00

Another comfort level question.....
Since my DD was diagnosed and I was clued in by all the information on these boards we have not taken our PA DD out to eat. I have been holding all our family gatherings at our house. I never cooked before the diagnosis and I have a huge family and am exhausted from the cooking. There are a few restaurants in town where we know the owners and they said they would oversee meal preparation and I could even bring my DD's food in the restaurant with a pan. These restaurants do not use peanut oil or have any nuts in dishes. I do not know every product they use but they are Italian restaurants.
I know in the scheme of things this sounds pretty safe but...... I don't know things such as could the pasta, tomato sauce or olive oil be contaminated in the factory? How does anyone begin to branch out and feel comforatable at all. We have so many family birthdays coming up that I can't cook for all of them and I am not comfortable going to another house to eat. I feel this poises a larger risk since they do have peanut products in them.
So basically I am asking what your comfort levelsgcfn are... I am not sure I can make the jump to eating out... I am just so afraid....

P.S. The restaurants are within 1 mile of a hospital.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 8:13am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

We never go anywhere really. We used to go to Burger King for chicken or burgers because he never has had a problem with their food. We did go last week for their frozen cherry coke drinks, but nothing to eat. First time in five or six months though.
We absolutely never go to sit-down (like Olive Garden, Chili's, Chi-chi's, etc.) restaurants. If we did, we would surely bring our own food for Ryan.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 8:20am
wendysco's picture
Joined: 05/03/2003 - 09:00

We will never be able to eat anywhere, we have soy allergy as well as PN. I think I would feel comfortable at your friend's restaurant, especially if you can bring your dd dinner in her own pan. Your friend's say they're willing to oversee preparation, but then I don't know what your reaction history has been so your zone may be tighter than some.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 8:42am
joeybeth's picture
Joined: 09/01/2006 - 09:00

i know this is the wrong answer (considering the question originally asked) but we have four kids and two of them are peanut allergic. they started out allergic to soy, wheat and egg also but have basically outgrown those allergies (which were never lifethreatening for our kids, like the pa is). anyhow...we eat out so often that i'm embarrassed to mention it. the only places we avoid are the obvious like those places with peanuts in pails, strewn on the floor, etc.. OR places that have lots of nutty dessert items. of course we do not eat at any asian restaurants or any other type of places that commonly use peanuts or nuts, peanut sauces or peanut oil. that still leaves quite a few places we are comfortable with though. to name a few that we frequent would be.....olive garden, red lobster, applebees, most mexican places, etc... having said that, i have to say we never ever order dessert from any restaurant (other than chocolate frosties from wendys). we also frequent most fastfood places when travelling (mcdonalds, burger king, hardees, taco bell, etc..). we always have our meds with us and do allow the girls to eat but i still always ask questions if i have any hesitancy about the menu or the restaurant.
i would consider my girls quite sensitive as one has had a severe reaction in a shopping mall in the past to the inhalation of steam coming from a nearby asian restaurant (in the food court area). she had eaten nothing and had not handled anything either. so...maybe my comfort level is too lax (i'm questioning this as i type). so far, we have been able to strike a good balance though as far as eating out is concerned. and, we've had good luck with that. however, may comfort level could change at any time if my girls ever had a problem or if i heard from some other parent that they had had a problem eating out in general.
i often hate to give "advice" to anyone based on how i do things because i do sometimes question whether or not i'm careful enough. in fact, we are on our way out within the hour to a new restaurant we've not tried before (the kitchen pass). i called ahead and spoke with the staff about their menu and inquired whether or not they had any peanuts, nuts or oils or sauces that could be a problem. they do serve cashews on top of one particular dish (which i would assume are probably "may contain")but have no other form of nuts in the kitchen. i am comfortable with that...for now.
i think eating out in general is not very healthy so the fact that you are doing a lot of cooking at home is probably great for your family and great for your budget too. maybe you can find some places you feel extremely comfortable with (like the place you mentioned) and then just every so often go out to dinner. i really should, for many reasons, stop feeding my family outside of our own home so often. it's gotten to be a bad habit for us. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] it's my diversion from home and keeps me from having to clean the kitchen so much.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 10:44am
anonymous's picture
Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

My daughter has never eaten anything out.
When my husband and I decide to go to a restaurant we always bring her food from home. I like to surprise her with one of her favorites so it makes the occasion something special.
I do hope that someday I will feel comfortable having her eat out. But at this point, I have a hard time trusting family, and these are people who love her dearly and understand the allergy. I can't find it in me to have complete faith in strangers, who are very busy, and might not understand the seriousness of it.
I'm working on it!

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 11:41am
becca's picture
Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

We go to restaurants regularly(sometimes as much as once weekly), and at least once monthly. We almost always have dd with us. Before knowing about the risks of corss contact, we did get her dinners, but she rarely touched them due to being a picky eater. So, we have basically stopped ordering her food, and she does not want us to anyway. We pack a cooler/lunch box type thing with her meal or feed her before and bring snacks. We briefly state she will not be eating since she already ate earlier, and/or due to her food allergies. We always order her a "special drink"(soft drink or lemonade) nowadays or milk with a straw and she is thrilled to get the crayons and draw while we dine.
She is almost 4 and we have never had any trouble at any establishment about bringing in her own food. On vacation, we recently had a waiter so nice, that she asked permission to even place the bread on the table after asking us kindly about her specific allergies.
We do not bring her to Asian restaurants anymore, but we had in the past, never allowing her any food. We were ignorant of cross contact risks and did not order anything peanutty.
I can see where some kids would not do well with our arrangement. They might feel left out or not like being different. Our dd may change her attitude as she gets older or if she decides to like trying new foods(if ever!).
That is how we do it, if it helps. I do find the baking and cooking to be exhausting at times as well, and I love to cook. becca
[This message has been edited by becca (edited July 18, 2003).]

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 12:07pm
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

Much like joey and becca, we also eat out regularly. I LOVE EATING OUT. We're not too adventurous, tho. We have a half dozen or so places we frequent and know the staff pretty well.
We don't go to a new restaurant during dinner hours. I like to talk to the manager when there's no dinner rush.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 2:49pm
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Joined: 04/14/2003 - 09:00


Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 2:52pm
tgab's picture
Joined: 06/24/2000 - 09:00

We eat out occasionally. We do fast food more often. When we do go out to a "sit down" restaurant, it's usually somewhere that doesn't serve peanutty type foods, like an Italian place. And I always ask to double check ingredients, etc. We've never had a problem. We don't get desert either.
On the pasta issue, my dd has eaten lots of pasta. I've never seen or heard of any that had peanuts in it. You could always ask the restaurant what brand of pasta and sauce they use and check it out ahead of time. If it turns out to be safe, then you would be able to have a safe place to eat, and something safe to order for your dd.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 9:56pm
mattchrismom's picture
Joined: 02/12/2003 - 09:00

We eat out at restaurants often, usually breakfast my both my kids are still young. I tell the serving staff and of course ask questions, all the peanut butter is in packets and everything else has no nuts, usually we go to the same restaurant.
I also often will take him to McDonalds (3 in our area) or if I am at a mall A&W or New York fries.

Posted on: Fri, 07/18/2003 - 10:32pm
Donni's picture
Joined: 11/06/2000 - 09:00

We rarely, rarely eat out--maybe once a year, if that. When my son was younger (he'll turn 5 next month), we either brought his food or gave him something from our plates. We always called ahead and made arrangements with the manager. When arriving, the manager would have the chef come to our table to discuss our meals (everyone at the table avoided foods that would be risky for Zak).
As a special treat (about every 4 months or so), we do take Zak to Wendy's--he only eats chicken nuggets and fries. I always check with the manager on duty to verify what oil is being used.
Since we are now dealing with more than PA, eating out is more stressful than eating at home. Frankly, I no longer enjoy going out to eat. Fortunately, I "live to cook!" It really is a passion in my life--always has been--so cooking isn't a problem. I've learned to cook without nuts, make even more food from scratch I think than my mother did (I grew up on homemade potato chips and homemade cookies...still can't eat a packaged cookie!), and now how to cook low saturated fat due to my husband's health needs.
On another note, I even bring Zak's food to friends homes--just in case I'm not comfortable with their food although everyone does check with me first. No one minds and no one feels insulted. For my family, everyone checks with me before preparing any food. Thus, eating with family isn't a problem either. I always bring the homemade bread and dessert, though.
[son 4 1/2 years--anaphylatic reaction without ingestion to peanut @ 22 months; contact allergic to peanut, sesame seed, & chickpea; possible airborn reaction to peanut if in closed environment; CAP RAST also shows allergy to almonds, Brazil nuts, hazelnuts (avoiding all tree nuts) but no known reaction to tree nuts]


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