When to give non PA siblings nuts?

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So first kid is pa/tna (shes 9), 2nd kid is not pa (hes 6). Son has not had any nuts or rarely any "may contains" either in his 6 years (in fact he's usually better at being safe than she is). But when do you introduce nuts to him? I've been hearing that studies show we should be giving non pa children some nuts so their bodies will adjust and not develop a pa, true or not, at some point (after 5yrs anyway) we probably should let him have some nuts occasionally! What do you do,what do you think?

On Mar 10, 2005

redtruck, my 7 year old daughter has never had any peanuts/tree nuts, except for the bite of a peanut filled chocolate bar she snuck at school this year.

It did become something we discussed last year, when she was 6. She wanted to try a chocolate bar with tree nuts in it.

Until she was in JK, she lived the same as the rest of us do - no "may contains", "made ins", etc. When she first went to JK, I wouldn't allow her to eat "may contains" either and even provided a special treat box for her at school should something come in. Then, I realized I was treating her like the PA child and she wasn't!

So, at school she can eat "may contains". I'm still always really clear with her teachers (she's now in Grade 2) that she can't have peanut products if they come in at party time or anything.

Honestly, I don't want her eating them. But, as I posted in a thread somewhere in Living with PA, it is going to be an "issue" with my daughter. I just know it.

When she snuck the bite of the peanut filled chocolate bar, she had kept it secret from me - not a great thing. So, I explained to her that eating the bite hadn't been anything "wrong" or anything but that it's just really important for me to know when she's eaten something so that she can clean up properly afterward and not potentially harm her brother.

So, no concrete answer from me. I know I'm just putting it off for as long as possible - until it becomes a real "issue" for my daughter. Otherwise, I wouldn't let her be eating peanuts/tree nuts at all. I think my son should always feel completely safe knowing we have a peanut/tree nut free home and not have to worry about his sister. But I'm finding as she gets older, that I may not be able to enforce that as easily as I once thought. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/redface.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Mar 10, 2005

how funny this comes up NOW.

Did I tell anyone we gave Sara a PB Girl Scout Cookie? Well.. we did.

She wanted one. She brought home 30+ boxes that she sold.. and wanted to try a PB one...

Ann looked at me and said 'You do it. We'll be out here, in the living room'

Well, she ate it.

Reaction? She liked it. Got a bump on her chin, from something... Maybe the cookie.. maybe an itch that itched a lot...

Word is still out...

But no massive systemic reaction [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Afterwards, she brushed, washed, et al... and then went and play, as if nothing happenned... I just breathed. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Jason Caitlin 4-17-00 Allergic to Dairy, Egg, Wheat, Bananas, Grapes, Rye, Sesame, Beef, Garlic, Mustard, Onion, Peas and Avoiding Latex and all Nuts Sara 2-13-98 NKA (Avoiding Nuts) Meghan 2-28-03 NKA (Avoiding Nuts) [url="http://community.webshots.com/user/jtolpin"]http://community.webshots.com/user/jtolpin[/url]

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On Mar 10, 2005

My son is turning 7 next week. He eats may contains regularly. Or at least, we don't intentionally not let him eat them. As for actual peanuts - every time he's tried pb he gags and pukes. So, I'm not going to start him eating them on a regular basis. He's now tried peabutter, and although he doesn't like it - he didn't even gag.

Now, if he had actually liked the pb - I'm not sure what we would be doing.

On Mar 11, 2005

peanut, is the only food that is banned from our house at the moment, on going disscusion is taking place over the other allergic foods, marmite this week.

However, my elder sons do long for peanut butter, and grandmother has a jar and gives them the odd sandwich .

I do let the other children eat may contains all the time. And even these days let them buy snicker bars/etc and eat them around william. This is only because of the family rules that they stick to. they wash hands and face carefully and do not touch william until then. This sort of think happens more often when we are all out of the house. I dont think that my other childrens choice of snack food should be dictated by their siblings allergies if at all possible.

we have egg in the house, and the same strick rules apply, after eating any thing at the table that william is allergic to we all go and wash our hands and face after eating.

Its not a perfect system, but I think for us as a large family it is the nearest to a balance of normality for all of us.

sarah

On Mar 11, 2005

Noone eats peanuts in our house. I do have some may contains that my husband and I might eat after the kids go to bed. But no may contains are eaten around the kids. My older son is allowed may contains when he is at friends houses. He also is allowed the odd pb cracker when he is not home. I make sure he has washed well before he is around his brother. My younger son also has a soy and milk allergy so he is very used to being told no due to allergies. He doesnt argue or even seem to care.

------------------ Lalow James 3yrs, NKA Ben 2 yrs, PA and MA left

On Mar 11, 2005

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Originally posted by redtruck: [b]I've been hearing that studies show we should be giving non pa children some nuts so their bodies will adjust and not develop a pa, true or not, at some point (after 5yrs anyway) we probably should let him have some nuts occasionally! What do you do,what do you think?[/b]

My situation is easier because it is my younger child who is PA. Older child ate peanuts for years before younger child came along.

I heard about exposing siblings to peanuts to avoid PA, too.

Our house is a peanut-free may-contain-free zone.

However, I buy a Reese's Peanutbutter Cup for older son once or twice a month and put it in his lunchbox to eat at school.

My husband and I go out for Thai food without the kids every now and then to get our peanut fix.

------------------ Jean one son peanut & watermelon allergies; one son seasonal allergies & oral allergy syndrome

On Mar 11, 2005

My second child, hopefully non-PA is just 1 still, but I wonder the same. Good to read what folks do. I guess you never know until they eat it, even with testing. Dd has tested Pos to things she does not react to(sesame).

I am also wondering about her other allergic foods. Like egg. He is 14 months, and not to derail your topic, but what about any allergenic foods that sibs are allergic to?

Wondering if I need to wait 2 years for egg cooked into something like a lasagna, or muffin if he and I are alone somewhere.

I plan on waiting until 5 years for the nuts with him. Per allergist recommendation. But not sure how I will introduce them. I might just give it a try near a hospital and see how he is a few times. Before Kindergarten. becca

On Mar 11, 2005

Yes i understand when the older children have been eating nuts and then younger child is pa, but how about like in becca's case where you want to wait until they're about 5 and then try them? My son will be 6 in a few days, he has not had any nuts, was skin tested 3yrs ago and has only had may contains...do we actually let him try a nut or peanutbutter etc? I think he would actually be afraid to!

On Mar 11, 2005

Redtruck, personally, if he tested negative, I would want to try it before entering elementary school. Also, personally, more than once. My dd ate peanut butter for 1-2 months before showing obvious allergy.

I just do not trust a single exposure to ensure no allergy. becca

[This message has been edited by becca (edited March 11, 2005).]

On Mar 11, 2005

My son is 4 and we've had him tested. He eats may-contains occasionally when his sister isn't around mainly because his diet was so restrictive at one point that I felt I couldn't limit that from him too. Anyway, we plan on taking him to the allergist's office for a food challenge before he goes to kindergarten. Yikes! I guess next year we would have to do it to be ready for that September. Well, that's still the plan for now. It could change.

Doreen

On Mar 12, 2005

Yes thats just it, you figure ok, when he goes to school we'll try it, then you say, well next time the opportunity arises,we'll try it, and before you know it, he's 6! So it goes, skin prick tested at 3, traces a few times, and maybe even some small exposure in icecream or something, cant remember, but no real concrete exposure, like peanuts or tree nuts or peanut butter!

On Mar 12, 2005

redtruck, your son sounds very much like my daughter, except for that bite of the pb chocolate bar she snuck this year at school. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

I know a lot of people think that I sound flaky. Can I just say that I can tell "in my gut" that Ember is non-PA?

We had her skin prick tested at the age of 3 to see if she was PA or not - the results came back negative.

But then, after posting about it here, since Em had never eaten peanut products, "may contains" or anything, since I found out Jess was PA when I was pregnant with Em, was her skin prick test considered her FIRST exposure? An exposure? And isn't it only after the first exposure that skin prick will detect an allergy?

So, I threw my hands up in the air, figured her skin prick test was her first exposure, but just really got the sense, and I don't know how, that Em was non-PA. I had wanted the "definitive" answer before she went to school.

She has certainly eaten "may contains" and cross-contaminated food with me (when her brother was in school) and we were "out and about town" - gone into places with Em (and felt guilty about it) that Jesse could never have gone in.

When we went to Ottawa this past summer for her eye surgery, we went to I believe a Starbucks. They had the giant chocolate chip (and other kinds) of cookies. Well, you should have seen her face! I couldn't resist her having this giant cookie (especially with what we were in Ottawa for).

As I was paying for her giant cookie, chocolate milk, and my coffee, there were nanaimo bars sliced really tiny for sample, including pb ones. I told Em she could try one but not the pb one - but man, they were on the same plate.

As far as the recent studies that have come out about feeding children pb - I thought it was after PA children had outgrown their allergy you had to feed them pb once in a bit to make sure they didn't "get" the allergy again.

I know Em is non-PA, just a gut thing and I also know Em, being the strong willed individual she is, she'll be trying peanuts whether I want her to or not (that's why when she snuck the bite of the chocolate bar we went through the list of what she "should" have done after eating the chocolate bar rather than hiding the fact from me).

I just really always want Jess to feel 100% safe at home.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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