When did we start the disclaimers in each post?

Posted on: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 10:17pm
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Hi Everyone,

I haven't posted in a couple of years but it seems that each post I have read over the last couple of days has included some sort of disclaimer to the effect of "I'm not a physician, this is not medical advice, etc."

I thought that was a given on this website. I thought everyone knew this and I don't know, kind of trusted each other and each other's judgement (i.e. nobody's going to come sue you because you suggested something that didn't work).

It's kind of a drag to have to work this into each message and it changes the tone of the whole place.

What does everyone else think? Maybe there should be a big diclaimer on the top of every board?

Barb

Posted on: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 11:01pm
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Barb,
Of course it's a given.
If you look, you'll see that most people don't bother with the redundancy.
One high volume poster has adopted this as her style. Nothing wrong with it; it's just her style.
Don't feel compelled at all to post in that manner.
General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just describing my own personal, highly individual, and unique situation. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
(edited to indicate that people are entitled to their style - but just answering the poster's question)
[This message has been edited by Annoyed (edited January 07, 2006).]

Posted on: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 11:13pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Annoyed:
[b]Barb,
Of course it's a given.
If you look, you'll see that most people don't bother with the redundancy.
One high volume poster has adopted this as her style.
Don't feel compelled at all to post in that manner.
General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just describing my own personal, highly individual, and unique situation. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
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[i]sigh[/i].

Posted on: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 11:17pm
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Quote:Originally posted by barb1123:
[b]Hi Everyone,
I haven't posted in a couple of years but it seems that each post I have read over the last couple of days has included some sort of disclaimer to the effect of "I'm not a physician, this is not medical advice, etc."
I thought that was a given on this website. I thought everyone knew this and I don't know, kind of trusted each other and each other's judgement (i.e. nobody's going to come sue you because you suggested something that didn't work).
It's kind of a drag to have to work this into each message and it changes the tone of the whole place.
What does everyone else think? [/b]
speaking of which, *tone*, I mean, have you checked out the "Limerick" section in the "Rudeness and Venting #3" thread in "Off Topic"?
The first two were pretty interesting as well. Rudeness Threads, I mean.
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Just another type of thread:
[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002061.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum22/HTML/002061.html[/url]
Am I wrong, or were there some threads on "stalkers" too?
Acutally, what *I've* always felt influenced "tone" was people adopting aliases in which to post their messages.
But [b]that's[/b] never been [i]my[/i] style.
General Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form. Just describing my own highly individual, unique and personal situation. IMMV. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 01/06/2006 - 11:40pm
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My post was not meant to offend anyone. I have read a couple of posts on the venting board but to be honest, it all sounded very hostile and I stopped.
As I said, I haven't posted in a couple of years but I thought this was a SUPPORT board....

Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 12:53am
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Barb,
Sometimes people post here and it seems as if they are using this board for medical advice.
Once in awhile you'll see a post that asks for some immediate answer about Benadryl or going to the ER. That is pretty scary to think someone would ask "us" rather than go off to the ER.
Sometimes I feel it necessary to post that what I am saying IS NOT advice but what has worked for my family.
I think that is what you are seeing. It does not mean to take away from the friendly nature of this board.
Peg

Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 1:01am
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barb1123, I wouldn't worry about it. Just post what you want/need to post and get the support, caring, encouragement, concern and information you need.
As Peg said (although not her exact words), a lot of times people will post that something worked for them but that doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for you and your family.
I can't think of when I do that, although I know I do. However, I do remember one incident specifically. McCobbre was speaking about her son becoming vegetarian and they were maybe going to try Kraft Boca Burgers. My son had had a reaction to Kraft Boca Burgers, but, as I told McCobbre, just because my guy had an isolated incident, and one that Kraft would not acknowledge, doesn't mean that everyone here should write off Kraft Boca Burgers because of my experience, KWIM?
I guess I don't see the disclaimers like you do because I am here almost every day, but really, I wouldn't worry about it. I think it's pretty clear that we are a support group and no one is going to sue anyone over any advice received on a message board.
So, just start posting. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 1:21am
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Quote:Originally posted by csc:
[b]... I think it's pretty clear that we are a support group and no one is going to sue anyone over any advice received on a message board. ...[/b]
I would hope that this is the case. But it's not that clear cut to [i]me.[/i] Afterall, I remember a comment made *to me* about removing a certain statement from the board for[b] "legal purposes". [/b] Can't imagine how I would feel if I were licensed and such a threat carried the additional weight that my very career could be scrutinized. Could you?
There are several posters who are [i]licensed[/i] in the fields of medicine and law. And their professions are known... maybe from their profile or from information in their posts. One [i]could [/i]argue that their licensing and professional training/experience would constitute "professional advice".
If I were in their shoes, I might differentiate what I would do [i]personally[/i] as a parent and what I would perhaps [i]advise[/i] as a licensed professional. You bettcha. Absolutely.

Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 1:27am
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I'm just going to jump in here with my little take on things here. I know it is difficult to be sure about a poster's tone or intention on a message board. That said, when I read through threads here, I often find myself marveling about how angry and defensive people seem to get over what seems to me to be a little thing--from battles over "comfort zones" to "Canada or US specific (not always asked in a *friendly* way" to just about anything. It seems that there is always something for someone to complain about, get defensive about, or make a rude or otherwise obnoxious comment about. Of course, that might just be my own personal interpretation of a poster's tone at that moment. I could be totally off base.
At times I do see this place as a supportive one, but many times I leave the board hoping I don't become as bitter and angry as some of the people seem. Let me add that I do not have any particular people in mind, as I do not keep track of who says what here; it's just a general feeling that I get at times.
I don't post often, and this is a huge reason why.

Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 1:31am
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Oh heaven, I didn't think answering someone was going to start a ruckus.
Gail W., yes, I have been threatened many a time here that I *could* be sued for whatever. Always checked with my lawyer and I couldn't be.
Now, I completely understand what you're saying, but I don't think that helps barb1123 post any more comfortably.
Especially when a link to one of our most horrible threads has already been provided to her in this thread (I just re-read the whole thread that the link was provided to and it was not pretty).
So, I think barb1123 would need some clarity as to why some people (and not that many) use disclaimers.
Okay. As far as I can tell, barb1123, Momma Bear is a nurse. She does not want anything she posts to be taken as advice being given by her as a nurse, thus the disclaimer, although they do vary (the words I mean).
I can't speak on her behalf anyway.
I guess now I have to ask who you have seen disclaimers from aside from Momma Bear?
A lot of people don't even state what their profession is here on the board - so I get rather lost if a disclaimer has to do with one's profession. Although if the profession is known, I can certainly understand why someone might place a disclaimer into their post.
However, I'm going to stand by what I originally said, barb1123 - as far as I know, this is a support group and I don't think anyone is going to sue anyone based on something they read on a message board.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Sat, 01/07/2006 - 1:35am
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WELCOME BACK! I hope you weren't brought here by some serious reaction. Just wanting some information, or maybe to renew old ties or something.
Quote:Originally posted by barb1123:
[b]My post was not meant to offend anyone. I have read a couple of posts on the venting board but to be honest, it all sounded very hostile and I stopped.
As I said, I haven't posted in a couple of years but I thought this was a SUPPORT board....[/b]
Barb, I don't think your question offended anyone. It was an honest question.
Regarding the use of disclaimers - sometimes people assume that people with a lot of posts are experts. Disclaimers remind people that we are all expert in living with our own allergies, but not formally educated as experts.
I started sometimes putting disclaimer's on some boards I go to. For example, if I post about a specific product, I will sometimes at a disclaimer that I do NOT work for the company and I do NOT get paid for advertising for them. I am just a happy customer.
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Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
[b]Acutally, what *I've* always felt influenced "tone" was people adopting aliases in which to post their messages.
But that's never been my style. [/b]
Ditto. If you don't feel strongly enough to say it in your on on-board name - why say it at all?

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