What would you do with this woman?


My PA daughter's school has two classrooms for each grade and she will be entering first grade this fall. There is a child in the grade with low blood sugar and the mother has become rather vocal regarding peanut butter as the only food that will keep her alive during school hours. She has campaigned with the school to get the teacher she wants for her daughter and is delighted to report that the teacher she has chosen is a "peanut butter person". It appears that she is trying to create a peanut classroom and a non peanut classroom. The trouble is that during the school day, the two classes exchange classrooms and teachers for different subjects. I think that over the summer she has been stewing about the peanut ban in the grade and is determined to do something about it, using her daughter's low blood sugar as her platform. She used to be quite understanding about PA but since her daughter's low blood sugar started, she has thrown her compassion right out the window.

On Jul 22, 2003

virginia mom, hi, I was wondering , do you already have a 504 or IHP in place? If so what is in place as far as p.free class, etc.? Do you have any type of relationship with this woman that maybe you can talk to her and tell her youd like to get together and come up with solutions for both your kids? If this isnt a possibility I would try to contact the principal over the summer and discuss this with the school, sharing your concerns. I definitely wouldnt wait until school starts.

Good luck!

On Jul 22, 2003

Unfortunately you probably should insist that the principal deal with her and stand firm on your peanut ban. I am not heartless, the little girl has a legitamate medical need, but I have dealt with diabetics in a nursing home, our snack of choice for stabilizing blood sugar (I worked the night shift and some residents would crash from their evening insulin) was graham crackers and milk. The initial sugar boost of the graham crackers followed by the more steady extended release of the carbs in the milk (carbs in the crackers too)provides a better steadying result of blood sugar. Follow that with a piece of fresh fruit (which most old people can't chew in the middle of the night so we used applesauce) and I'd say BOTH children's needs are met. I am sure you could get doctor documentation of a suitable alternative. Sorry so long but I can't shut up when I see alternatives, why do some people insist on making things so painful? To say PB is a necessity is simply not true, not once did I ever see "Must encourage peanut butter consumption " on a diabetics care plan. There is also Pediasure drinks which would be an alternative also. Best of luck to you.

On Jul 22, 2003

Perhaps you could suggest to this woman that she try feeding her daughter cashew butter instead. Although I would not consider it a "safe" food for my PA son to eat since it would probably have a "may contain" label, it is in my comfort zone of items other people can eat around my son.

My Grandfather (who is a diabetic) has eaten peanut butter sandwiches everyday for lunch for at least as long as I have been alive. He graciously switched to cashew butter after my son had his first anaphalactic reaction to peanuts. In fact, he told my grandmother, "Throw that stuff out!" (It was difficult for him to say that because he has suffered several strokes and his speech has been severely affected!) I know he would much rather have the peanut butter, but it is a sacrifice he has made so Great-Grandma and Great-Grandpa's house would be a safe place for my son to visit. Good thing too since they only live a few doors down!

By the way, my Grandmother says peanut butter is not part of a suggested diabetic diet, but it is just something my grandfather has always enjoyed.

Also, low blood sugar is not diabetes. It is actually high blood sugar that is diagnosed as diabetes, but a diabetic can experience low blood sugar if they don't get enough to eat (carbs and/or sugars) when taking insulin or other medications to control their blood sugar. I believe a diagnosis of just low blood sugar is called hypo-glycemia, and many hypo-glycemics later become diabetics.

At any rate, I don't know if you feel comfortable with cashew butter (everyone's comfort zones are different) but it could be a possible solution if the class is just peanut-free and not nut-free. Grandma buys Grandpa's cashew butter at Trader Joes and she says it isn't much more costly than the peanut butter she used to purchase. It might be a good compromise!

Good Luck! Cheryl

On Jul 22, 2003

cheryl: what a wonderful grandfather! how sweet and loving of him to make such a big change after years of doing things a certain way.

as for the question....my response certainly won't be appreciated here by some but here goes anyway....the diabetic child can have many snack/lunch options during the few hours, 5 days a week that she is in school. your child has only ONE food she must not come in contact with (peanuts). this is a very easy problem to solve. no peanuts. the other child CAN eat something else just as helpful and nutritious to her and this is a good opportunity for her to learn that other people have special needs too.

i get very frustrated with this attitude that peanut butter is a necessity for certain children. it is not. is is yummy for them and it is convenient...but it is not a necessity. avoiding anaphylaxis is a necessity. i think it's unfortunate that the child may have to forego her favorite snack...but it's not life threatening (not getting the pb) and certainly nothing the mother should be reacting this way about. how would she feel if you had the diabetic child and she had the peanut allergic child? i bet she'd be all for peanut bans/restrictions then.

i hope no one thinks i'm being unkind here...i've been diabetic myself twice (gestational)...insulin several times a day and the whole nine yards. it is NO fun and it is a serious health issue. and i think it would be doubly worse to have to deal with it as a child. i have the utmost respect for those who are dealing with diabetes. i would be very protective and concerned about my child too if he/she had diabetes. however, the diet is not as restrictive as some people make it out to be and there are alternatives to peanut butter.

good luck!


On Jul 22, 2003

It's interesting that this question should be raised on the board at a time when we have been discussing diabetes and the *necessity* (if you will) for peanut butter in other threads.

river posted in another thread about if a certain food (peanut butter) was a medical necessity (which it isn't and she was not saying that it was). But she was saying that if it was a necessity for the other child that it should be administered (fed) to the child in a controlled environment that would not affect the PA child. I am not clear if her post is in her *morals* thread under Main Discussion or not. That way, the child could safely have pb and yet your PA child would remain safe.

Now, as far as the necessity for peanut butter for this child. Is what this child is suffering from diabetes? What I would do is find out what food alternatives there are to peanut butter for this child to eat and present this to the school (not the parent).

Also, do you have a 504 Plan in place whereby your child is supposed to have a peanut free classroom?

See, and this is where it gets sticky for me, simply because I'm Canadian. My PA son has the *right* to a "peanut free" classroom in Ontario, Canada. When he entered Grade 1, he was in a similar situation to your child - the two Grade 1 classrooms were only separated by a partition and a lot of the activities were shared by the two classes. So, because my PA son required a "peanut free" classroom, the other classroom, because of the high level of interaction also had to be "peanut free".

Now, I'm not sure that this would apply in your case as well.

The other thing is and this is where I'm wondering if it could get problematic - can the other child also have a 504 Plan in place for her medical condition and is it even remotely possible that it would say in the plan that the child HAS to eat pb?

As far as I can see (and again, please excuse me, even after all of this time I don't understand the semantics involved in a 504 Plan), if your child has a 504 Plan and the other child doesn't, then wouldn't the school have to follow the 504 Plan?

I would research the other child's medical condition (whether it is diabetes or whatever it is) and get a list of alternative foods that the child can eat. As has been posted several times on this board and even in this thread, pb is not the be all and end all if you are diabetic.

In looking at the Safe Snack and Lunch List that I posted here a couple of years ago, when it comes to protein (that old argument about pb containing so much protein, which it does), there was a whole long list of foods that provided the equivalent amount of protein as pb did. So, another child, in a peanut free classroom could still get as much protein as they required simply by choosing one of the alternatives.

That's what I'm thinking in this case too. If you're able to provide a comprehensive list of alternatives, the other child does have a choice. Unfortunately, YOUR child does NOT have a choice.

I also agree with joeybeth re the timing of the child's eating. No one is saying that the child cannot have pb to boost her blood sugar for breakfast, after school snack, dinner or bed-time snack. You are simply asking that the child not eat that particular food item for the time that they are at school with your PA child.

And again, this other child does have food choices (I know we're talking about a medical condition here but this is similar to the poverty = pb sandwich argument and also the picky eater = pb sandwich argument). Your child does not.

I don't think I really said anything that people above didn't post already, but this type of discussion does upset me.

And again, if there were NO alternatives for this child, I would go with the plan of feeding that river posted (supervised, out of the peanut free classroom, handwashing, etc.).

It is interesting how the other woman was understanding about PA until she was presented with her daughter's own medical condition. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

This reminds me of something that happened this year with my kids at school. My PA son and my non-PA daughter each had a sibling from one family in their class. The Mom knew that there was a "peanut free" classroom because her oldest daughter was in it. She came into the school one morning ranting and raving about how everyone was jumping through hoops for the PA child in her oldest daughter's classroom and how NOTHING was being done about her youngest daughter's (who was in my daughter's class) red dye allergy.

Little did she realize that she was ranting and raving at the PA Mom. At any rate, I listened to her and the trouble was, she hadn't told the school. How is the school supposed to do anything on behalf of her child unless she tells them that there is something they should be aware of? I told her that she should speak with the principal immediately, which she did. I also offered her my help. After her initial talk with the principal and a notice home in my daughter's class about the red dye allergy, nothing more was said about it. The Mom never followed-up. It was like somehow she felt slighted that another child (even a stranger and a stranger's child) had somehow out-shadowed her red dye allergic child (even though she hadn't told anyone about her child being allergic) and she was up in arms about it.

It almost sounds as if this woman is the same, except she is trying to work with the school.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]


On Jul 23, 2003

Several members here have mentioned PB and diabetes in the context of this discussion.

It brings to mind my own dealings with the school and attempts to achieve a 504 that would adequately address the needs of our son (PA/NUTS/Ashtma/Environmental Allergies/Atopic in general/some other needs)and assist in providing a safe environment.

The issue of diabetics came up. Many times. I think I remember myself saying that merely act of touching (physical contact) with a sugar granule would not cause injury to someone just because they were diabetic. Loudly. Very unlike me. (I'd have to check the tape, but it is a pretty clear memory---I think my heart just picked up a few beats). Deep breath....

We argued for a "peanut free/nut free" ("peanut free" at least) classroom and School even (with respect to shared areas). We were asked, in so many words, how we expected them to go about it. We scheduled another meeting. We reserched. We armed myself with stacks of literature that indicated the absence of peanut/nut items to be of great efficacy in the management of children with such life threatening allergies. We obtained letters recommending the same from our son's physician. We presented documentation of past reactions indicating our son's high level of sensitivity to such products and documentation of our son's Asthma.

We returned. Several times. We appealed to their education, sense of compassion and logic. They appealed to our ability to reason. (In hindsight I see this). "[i]Show us how to do this[/i]. Put it into words. Have your requests ready for the next meeting.[/i]" (General idea summarized in quote).

We returned. Confidently, we handed them a sample of a Letter to Parents. (Among other things) Several examples. We stated: "Look they are doing it in [i]other[/i] schools! There are [b]even[/b] letters requesting the same as [i]samples[/i]."

They replied: "How?" (General idea summarized in quote).

I won't go on. Truthfully? Because it is very early, I have a nice day planned with my children and migranes compounded with GI upset really inhibit that. [i]I still can't go back to that place in time.[/i] And this post doesn't even begin to represent how awful those meetings were. I stated before, we were physically ill by the end of them.

All "Hows" aside I will state this: During that time, I researched food alternatives for diabetics. [i]Later[/i] I called upon lessons I had learned early on as a nurse in the management of diabetes. "Compliance" came to mind. I began to realize that for me to "get it" with regards to diabetics, I had to understand that for a diabetic "Compliance" is very very very vital to survival. I posted before an professional research article indicating how the ability to choose items one [i]prefers[/i] affects "Compliance". (Guess they probably could have found articles too) I asked if PA parents would be willing to cooperate with parents of children with Diabetes in working out solutions by and how their children could co-exist in the same environment. The idea of eating PB in a controlled environment with precautions to prevent cross-contamination in place was brought up. The idea of "Does a child who eats PB in a controlled environment with such precautions in place pose the same or a greater threat than those children who may have eaten PB prior to comming to school [i]with no precautions?[/i]" was brought up.

Again, these (PB, Diabetes) were not by far, the biggest issues on the table during our 504 meetings. Not-by-far.

But they [i]were[/i] a bump in the road. A pothole even. They were enough to derail the meetings and prevent us from discussing [b] what my local public school could and is obligated to do on behalf of my son[/i]. Much of which would have proven to be of great great efficacy to my child. Much.

We (my husband and I) blew it. Does anyone have any idea how that feels? Maybe I'll just hang onto my potholders. And no, I'm not offering any advice at all. I'm just sharing something incredibly painful to me and mine. Too late about the stomach upset as well.

By no means is this post representative of [i]everything[/i] discussed in those meetings, or outside of them. I can't even begin to go there. (Amazing what is said when the recorder is off).


On Jul 23, 2003

I think that the child with low blood sugar should be allowed to eat her peanut butter somewhere, but not in the shared classroom. People have posted about separate peanut butter tables and eating in the principal's office. Is lunch in the classroom? Or does the mom want peanut butter snacks in the classroom?

The child should also be supervised in washing up after eating her pb. The rest of her class should still not be allowed to bring peanut butter, because the risk is compounded and supervising the wash-up of a whole class is more difficult than supervising the wash-up of one.

That would be my compromise. Good luck.

On Jul 23, 2003

Yes, I agree. Maybe she can go to the Main Office or the Nurses Office to eat the pb portion, clean up, and then return to the class. She could eat the rest of her lunch with the class. It could be treated similar to another child who goes for a daily medication. This way both health issues are addressed, your child would remain safe, and nobody would feel that their child's health issue is being slighted. Andrea

On Jul 23, 2003

I have a daughter who has always suffered from low blood sugar, (although I didn't recognize it as that for a long time), and she did respond well to peanut butter sandwiches. But after having PA diagnosed in her brother, I discovered that any other protein and carb seems to do the trick just as well.

Ultimately it's up to the principal to make this decision.

If your principal decides for one reason or another that this woman requires the particular type of accommodation requested, I think that nancy023 is correct. If her daughter requires this "medication" it should be given in a separate place and she should be required to clean up afterward. I suspect that eventually this girl will tire of it and tell her mom she doesn't want to do it anymore.

On Jul 23, 2003


Originally posted by river: [b] I suspect that eventually this girl will tire of it and tell her mom she doesn't want to do it anymore.


I suspect the school district my family dealt with had similiar thoughts regarding PA.

On Jul 23, 2003

I absolutely agree with Nancy023. The mother just wants her daughter to basically be able to eat peanut butter for her low blood sugar.

She should be allowed to eat it but definitely somewhere other than the classroom.

I like what ACBaay had said about eating the pb portion of her lunch elsewhere, washing up and returning to class to eat the rest of her lunch. That way she wouldn't be eating her lunch by herself. Great idea.

I also think that what River said about the girl eventually getting tired of it and not wanting to do it anymore is right on the money.

Do you think that the mom is willing to exchange the pb for another food that will give her daughter the same results? Or do you really think that she's just pissed about the PA?

Edited to add these web sites. I thought they might be helpful for you.



[This message has been edited by e-mom (edited July 23, 2003).]

On Jul 23, 2003

in reference to mb's remark: the diabetic child may get tired of having to eat pb in a confined area and decide to eat something else with the other kids. the peanut allergic child may get tired of having pa. but...as you know...nothing will change for the pa child just because he/she doesn't want to deal with it anymore. he/she still HAS to deal with it. that's what makes the two children in this example different. the first one has the option of eating the pb in a controlled environment OR eating something else where ever he/she chooses. the second child in this example has no options. period. that's the whole point.


[This message has been edited by joeybeth (edited July 23, 2003).]

On Jul 23, 2003


Originally posted by joeybeth: [b]in reference to mb's remark: the diabetic child may get tired of having to eat pb in a confined area and decide to eat something else with the other kids. the peanut allergic child may get tired of having pa. but...as you know...nothing will change for the pa child just because he/she doesn't want to deal with it anymore. he/she still HAS to deal with it. that's what makes the two children in this example different. [/b]

With all due respect, as far as I know, there is no cure for diabetes. Yet. But, I understand your point.

On Jul 23, 2003

with all due respect....there is a cure for peanut butter...it's called all kinds of other snack/lunch choices. THAT was my point. but i would expect nothing less than you acting like i was suggesting diabetes was less serious than it is. i was making a common sense observation. that's probably why you didn't get it.


On Jul 23, 2003

also..i guess you missed the part about how i myself have been diabetic in the past. have you? it is very serious and i would never minimize the risks of such a serious problem that many people struggle with. in my first diabetic pregnancy i consume monstrous amounts of peanut butter (at least 3 or 4 times daily). in my second diabetic pregnancy, when i was already aware that i had a pa child in the home (related to my excessive pb consumption during her gestation? who knows...), i didn't eat one single bit of anything containing peanuts....guess what? i survived.


On Jul 23, 2003

sorry guys...and mommabear...i'm in a mood. i guess i'm beginning to really tire of this diabetes debate (not this thread/question..just the bickering in general...i'm beginning to feel like i'm in a diabetes discussion group; which is very confusing.) but hey...i hope no one misses my point...i am very much in favor of helping both groups of children in school and i feel there is a way to do this..no matter how much ridiculous arguing goes on. and...to the original person who asked the question...sorry i've gotten "crabby" here. it was an excellent question and something i'm sure we're all bound to be faced with sooner rather than later...considering that both peanut allergy (and other food allergies) and childhood diabetes are both on the rise. excellent question to pose.


On Jul 23, 2003


I probably will never begin to be able to say how much your words are appreciated, except by stating I most likely would enjoy lunch with you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

In my limited understanding, it appeared to me that the point of the study was to examine the relationship between successfully managing diabetes (survival?) and compliance. And in light of this relationship what effect [i]preference[/i] has on compliance, and thus survival. [b]If[/b] I understand the study.

Link including study I reference:

"Interesting link: [url="http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514256301/html/x209.html"]http://herkules.oulu.fi/isbn9514256301/html/x209.html[/url]

(taken from "Psychological features characterizing oral health behavior, diabetes self-care health status among IDDM patients: Chapter 3. Review of literature"

scroll down to: "3.3.1. Diabetes self-care practices"

a quote:

"Concerning adherence to the prescribed diet, knowledge is needed, but social demands and personal preferences have been found to be play a major role, and simplification of the diet regimens has been recommended (Lo 1998). The most frequent barriers to dietary adherence are encountered at home, then come barriers at shopping for food and away from home (Glasgow et al. 1997)."

Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy or content of the link in this post. I am not offering advice in any manner or form."

Sorry to quote anything, but it probably would help persons new to the discussion to know what I am referencing. I hope in some way, I was able to offer something of value up to virginia mom. (But not advice).


On Jul 23, 2003


thanks. really. i was being a hotheaded jerk in the reply where i got ugly. i went back and read your post and realized you were not implying what i assumed and that the tone i thought was there, was not. i was overly aggressive in my posts. i think the diabetes debate is getting to me. i really do sympathize with both parties involved in the original question...that's the point i guess i was trying to make. i just think that one party has more options than the other, even though i would agree that the diabetic has a serious medical condition that they live with 24 hrs a day. it's easier for us to avoid our problem (peanuts) and maybe i wasn't clear that i understood that. if i had to compare the two problems, i would definitely have to say (personal opinion) that the diabetes is more problematic and more serious. *however, i still feel like the peanut is not a necessary staple in the diabetic's life (especially in the school environment where it might impact another child's safety).* it's kind of asking like which is worse...cancer or heart disease? sort of. they are both bad. both parties deserve compassion. maybe i wasn't clear that i felt that way. sorry again. anyone that wants to nominate me for rude s.o.b. of the week in off topic may do say. good grief, i almost went ahead and nominated myself after re-reading my posts here. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] i decided not to delete them or change them as i think they are a good example of how frustrating peanut allergy and related issues can be for all of us...and that we're all human. i'm not backing down from my original opinion that peanuts/peanut butter are not necessary for diabetic children in school but i am saying i should have been less abrasive in my replies. my tone was pretty crappy.


On Jul 23, 2003

I really really really am happy PA.com is here. And yes, [i]it does feel like family[/i].

On Jul 23, 2003

Can someone detail out for me what at 504 plan is and where I could find details on this? My son is 2 and I am starting to look into schools this year. With his PA, I would be more apt to enroll him in a school that has a 504 plan established from what I am gathering here.

On Jul 23, 2003

I believe a 504 Plan is an individual plan rather than something that would be school wide. Very different than say here in Canada where we do have "peanut free" classes, "peanut free" schools, etc.

For further information re 504 Plans, there is a LOT of information posted under the Schools section. A lot of different members posted their own 504 Plans for their PA children so that others could use them. Now, as far as getting one implemented, since I am not American, I have no idea.

But definitely check under Schools and ask any question you feel you need to fully be able to understand what a 504 Plan is if you want one for your PA child.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]


On Jul 23, 2003

I want to thank you all so much for all of your replies. With the new school year approaching, my stress levels are going through the roof and,now, knowing that this mother is preparing to do battle over safeguards that were already put into place at the school (i.e. peanut free classrooms, no peanut snacks, etc.)I'm about ready to lose it. It does not help that she has been socializing with the two first grade teachers, taking them out to dinner, inviting them over for cocktail parties and basically brown nosing her way into their good graces. I don't want to play "high school" games over who is the most popular mother, therefore whose needs will be met first. All I want is for the school to continue what they did last year - peanut free classroom, and now, a peanut free lunch table since she'll be there all day. Having lunch at school, as you all know, raises a whole other set of fears and questions. That's why this woman's PB campaign is particularly ill timed and frightening. To go around saying that one of the first grade teachers "loves peanut butter" is a direct threat to my daughter. What does she mean by that? Am I supposed to be comfortable now dropping her off at school? She wants her daughter's medical condition raised to the forefront - I'm all for keeping her daughter safe and healthy but not at the cost of my daughter's life.

On Jul 23, 2003

In response to Virginia Mom's original question re the child with low blood sugar (not diabetes) who needs to eat pb during school...

I am assuming there is a 504 in place for the PA child, and one of the provisions is for peanut-free classroom.

If the other child needs pb for medical reasons, that child should have a 504 or some kind of medical plan in place. If her doctor attests to her need to eat pb during school hours, then that must be accepted and accommodated, same as any other disability.

I think, even within the context of a peanut free classroom (or school--I'm not sure what is in place) there can be a way of accommodating a single child who must eat pb for medical reasons. I don't think that should include eating in the nurse's office. If it's part of the child's lunch, she should be able to enjoy it with her classmates. She can be seated away from the PA child, an aide can supervise, and the child eating pb can be assisted in cleaning up afterwards.

I don't like the idea of pb being administered as "medicine" in the nurse's office. It's a food. Children on strict diets are at high risk for developing (psychological) problems with eating, and there should be nothing even slightly ostracizing or punitive about the way the pb is handled.

In my opinion, one child, closely supervised, eating pb, is not a danger to the PA child.

This all hinges on the child having a genuine medical need, documented by her physician. If the doctor doesn't sign off on it, the kiddo can wait and eat pb at home like everyone else in the class. I don't like the idea of the mothers getting together to "work something out."

We all know how much work and documentation goes into a 504 plan. If the kid with low blood sugar can qualify for a medical plan, I'm sure she can be accommodated without harming the PA child.

On Jul 23, 2003

Oooh, I hate it when that happens...Va Mom I did not see your latest post before I submitted mine. So my post was not intended as an "answer" to your more recent one. I was just piping in on the general discussion

I wish you the best of luck. Sounds like a bad situation with the other mother. That's why I don't think you should have to "work it out" with her. She should have a medical plan (and medical documentation) and the school can take it from there. I admit I am skeptical about whether the kid has a genuine medical need, but if they can document it, then I do think she should be accommodated.

Good luck!

On Jul 23, 2003

Sandra Y,

(whispering quietly): I really liked your last two posts. (even quieter: and with that said, I'm still not making recommendations)

And with that said, I definitely was not in the "social swing" of our school system (never was, probably never will be) and can relate to issues concerning this.

MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

On Jul 23, 2003

Momma Bear - I also do NOT want to be in the social swing at school. I just want to drop my daughter off in the mornings and be secure in the knowledge that she will be alive when I pick her up in the afternoon. Unfortunately, since I have had to speak up on behalf of my daughter's allergy, there are some parents who think that I want to have a place in the school's "social sphere" and therefore see me as a threat. What they don't understand is that all I want is for my daughter to be safe so that I can spend my weekdays doing my housework and watching "I Love Lucy" in peace! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

On Jul 23, 2003

corinne, I will raise my threads about 504s in the schools forum for you.

On Jul 28, 2003

Hi Virginia Mom~

It's hard isn't it....I say, TAKE THE HIGH ROAD. And, that doesn't mean give in...it just means don't take the other mom's bait!

Boy! Have I been there...and this is where I had to check my ego. Because it is very difficult not to want to fight back and defend (for many reasons...we are all human).

Usually with people like this...you give them enough rope, they'll hang themselves.

People will eventually...see this for what it is. Hold your head high and... Patience... If you can.