What manufacturers DON\'T label properly? U.S. ONLY please

Posted on: Thu, 12/07/2000 - 6:35am
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There are many places where people have discussed the "may contain" label or unusual sources of peanut. What I want to know, as I'm sure newcomers want to know is:

What food manufacturers are unsafe in their production processes for PA yet don't and aren't willing to label their products accordingly?

Have you experienced reactions from a product that was not labeled in any way - what was it and who made it?

Please also indicate those that are on shared equipment, shared facilities, etc. if you know.

If we are going to get anywhere with this labeling issue we need to work with these manufacturers specifically as well as what Chris is doing on the national level for legislation.

I would like to limit this to AMERICAN food manufacturers, not Canadian or European. My reason is that certain manufacturers have taken a better position in Canada and I know the UK has a current law of 25% content labeling that they are currently working on amending. Being in the U.S. I want to focus this thread on U.S. produced foods or those brought into this country that need to follow U.S. labeling guidelines.

[This message has been edited by Philip's Mom (edited December 07, 2000).]

Posted on: Tue, 12/12/2000 - 3:56am
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[This is a copy of some of my post under "Unexpected Sources" and "Hives from Pillsbury ...Bread"] Pillsbury update:
"After spending most of my son's nap time yesterday on the phone with Pillsbury representatives, this is the best I can do regarding current info on their flours:
> They do NOT produce any "peanut flour" anywhere. Period.
> After 3 conversations with 3 different rep's, it seems as though SOME flour products MAY have some production connection with peanut/nut containing products. Their senior rep who called me was insistent that the chances are very slim of any peanut cross-contamination with their flour products. She would NOT go so far as to say they would be safe for my PA child.
> The 1 bag of Pillsbury Whole Wheat flour that I had my main concern with was definitely NOT produced in any mill/plant with ANY peanut product. [This particular info shot down my theory as to the source of my son's new & outrageous hives. -- He has tested negative for wheat allergy & has NO problems with other wheat products.]
In all 3 conversations I maintained my position that ANY of their products -- flours or otherwise -- which share ANY production/packaging machinery with peanut or nut should be labeled as such.
All 3 rep's were professional and cautious in their conversations with me. "CYA" (cover yer ***) is all-important to them when they talk to a customer about a potential or perceived problem with one of their products. None of them would admit Pillsbury's need for more truthful labeling.
Will I buy or use any Pillsbury items now?
*** NO WAY. ***
I did also contact General Mills (manufacturer of Gold Medal flours) and they confirmed that ALL of their flour products are peanut-free and nut-free and run on dedicated lines. Their rep said that once the acquisition of Pillsbury is final, one should expect that at least the labeling requirements will be held to the General Mills stricter & more explicit standard."
General Mills' policy (as they stated it yesterday) is to label with "may contain" if any chance of cross-contamination.
Philip's Mom -- have you had any direct dealings yet with Pillsbury and their poor labeling practices?
Thanks for starting this thread!
EB

Posted on: Tue, 12/12/2000 - 5:24am
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I do not trust Swiss Miss anymore. My son had a reaction to their chocolate pudding. He ate it many times before and then one day reacted to it. I contacted the company and learned that they make a chocolate/peanut butter pudding on the same line but do not label it.
They are owned by a large corporation called ConAgra. They own many, many, many companies. Everything ranging from Healthy Choice, Butterball, Hunt's, Orville Redenbacher, Slim Jim, and Peter Pan PB....and more.

Posted on: Wed, 12/13/2000 - 3:35am
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Thank you both for posting in this thread. I need to check out the Swiss Miss question - I've never used it so haven't had a pproblem. ConAgra is huge and will be a great one to work on after my initial project.
As for Pillsbury - no - I'm not doing anything with them at the moment. My reason is that with the merger/acquisition their labeling is already supposed to be changing. I don't have a lot of time to dedicate to this mission so the time I do have I want to focus on those not already in the process of doing something if you know what I mean. Also - I prefer to use Gold Medal bleached flour for all my baking. The protein content in the flour is low (approx. 9%) and creates a better final product in my opinion. Pillsbury also tends to be prepackaged, slice and bake and other time saving products that I just don't use.
My biggie right now and where I'm focusing my energies is with Kelloggs. It's absolutely ridiculous that we need to search out the KB or KLB or KN or whatever silly internal codes they use to determine if the product is safe for us. I really felt bad for that mom who had boxes stacked all over the shelves searching for a safe one. Should we have to demean ourselves like this?
The problem as many of you can see is the sheer number of different production facilities in use to prepare the identical product. Some safe, some not. The boxes however are most likely manufactured and printed in a different facility, probably outsourced, and K. has a backlog of supply to get through before they would even consider label changes. With large manufacturers any change equates to dollars necessary to implement - i.e. what will it cost K. to change their packaging to incorporate an allergy warning label. They already know what's in their foods and where it's produced. That is not the issue. The issue is how do we convince them to be a responsible food supplier and spend the necessary bucks and manpower to enact a change.
At the moment I'm trying to determine their distribution methods for the various production facilities. For example, do KN produced foods get distributed nationwide or is there a regional distribution to a limited number of states, and the same for each of their facilities.
While I mentioned the searching out boxes in the store above - you can probably surmise that if one box came from one plant - that stores whole shipment probably came from the same plant and you won't find a safe box on your shelves.
My goal is to get manufacturers to label responsibly like Betty Crocker (General Mills) products. There is a clear bold printed allergy statement near the ingredients list and typically a second allergy warning elsewhere on the package. This is great packaging in my mind. I know I don't need to weed through the whole list of ingredients - it's right there for me.
I'm focusing on K. because everyone of us probably feeds our kids cereal or eats it ourselves. When I brainstormed about where to begin and read many many posts about diets - everybody is different, has different tastes, some vegetarian, some frozen foods, etc. but the most common food we seem to share is cereal. So I start with K. and then on to Quaker Oats and then to Post (which will be another biggie - Kraft foods). As for our house - we seem to stick with General Mills - which does a great job of labeling too!
Everyone keep posting in here - I really need your input on which companies need to be worked on.
[This message has been edited by Philip's Mom (edited December 13, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by Philip's Mom (edited December 13, 2000).]

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2001 - 3:57am
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My son had a reaction to Mott's Cinammon Apple sauce - has natural flavors in ingredient list - plain Mott's Apple sauce is fine. Franco-American Spaghettio's and Kraft Blues Clues Mac and Cheese also gave him a reaction.
Manufacturers told me there was no way peanuts could be in these products. I'm new at this and may not have asked them the right questions.
Chef Boyardee ravioli is another bad one.
FYI: Myles gets hives from peas.
I'm so confused about what has peanuts and what doesn't but reading this site is helping a great deal.
Thanks, Katrina

Posted on: Thu, 05/03/2001 - 6:24am
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To throw another wrench into the works, as confusing as it already is... my son has had Mott's regular and cinnamon, Chef Boyardee ravioli, and Kraft Blue's Clues mac and cheese several times with no problem at all.
Could there be another suspect allergen???

Posted on: Sat, 05/05/2001 - 12:02pm
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Yes, PILSBURY & all of its subsidiaries have NO dedicated lines & NO labelling. I investigated after a reaction to Haagen Dazs. Pilsbury owns Haagen Dazs, Gino/Totino, Progresso, Green Giant, Old El Paso, & Nestle's Ice Cream.

Posted on: Tue, 01/08/2002 - 2:57am
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Kellogg's is definately another manufacturer that does not label correctly. My son had two severe reactions to Kellogg's cereal and Kellogg's Waffles- neither of which had a pn warning but were manufactured along with pn products.
Valerie

Posted on: Tue, 01/08/2002 - 6:53am
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We've been dealing with PA for 1 1/2 years now, and have had no problems with Motts or any other Cinnamon Apple Sauces. He also eats Blues Clues Mac and Cheese regulary. I have given him Kellogs cereals, but do try to limit my purchases to General Mills. I belive very strongly in supporting those who label correctly. Philips Mom, thanks for starting this thread!

Posted on: Tue, 03/12/2002 - 6:47pm
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Just and FYI
I spoke with a General Mills rep. today who confirmed that they do (still) list all of the big 8 in a "may contain" format. The person I spoke with was very helpful and even agreed to research their products ingredients even after I told her that I wasn't sure it was the source of our reaction. Unfortunately, she also said that Pillsbury is still NOT following GM's labelling policies but they may begin doing so at a future date. Of note, I received an e-mail from GM to a query which specifically asked about Pillbury and in that 'canned' response was told that "all" GM products followed the same guidelines. The response did not distinguish between GM and Pillbury.

Posted on: Wed, 03/13/2002 - 12:01pm
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My son ate a lot of Motts cinnamon applesauce in single serve size for a while, but seems to have lost his taste for it. Never had a reaction to it though. He loves the Blues Clues Macaroni and has eaten many boxes w/o a problem...

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