What do you do about recess?

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 12:13am
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My DD is 10 and in 5th Grade, up to now she has had an epi-pen in the office, and one in her classroom. She has been going to recess without an epi-pen, BUT the recess monitors all have walkie talkies, as does the main office, so they could communicate and someone would bring the epi-pen if needed....maybe would take 1-2 minutes.

So, maybe it's been naive of me, but I've been okay with that up to now. She will be going to the second largest middle school in the state next year (roughly 3,000 kids) So, I want this year to be the transition of her being more personally responsible for her own meds.....My suggestion was that she carry the epi pen on her body.....DD HATES the idea, the school HATES the idea.....

So, I decided we could focus on doing that the last half of the year....but in the meantime, I really want this recess situation addressed...I have become a bit less comfortable with it. I think the health para suggested having epi-pens in a first aid kit by the door...I thought 'Hey, that's a GREAT idea'!

Well, then our WONDERFUL school nurse said no...She said it doesn't make sense to have the epi pens on the play ground, since there are no peanuts on the play ground....UGH!!!!!! Clearly she doesn't get it, so now we are back to the Dr. to get further clarification that she does indeed need to have her epi pen in close proximity every second of the day. I think this is really going to come down to her wearing her epi-pen....even if she doesn't want to. And I've made sure to let the school know that, by law, they cannot stop her from doing so.

I'm just so irritated....our school has been great up to now, and this new school nurse is really on my nerves!

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 1:05am
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With our son, the rule is wherever he is his Epi is. Right now he's only 5, so that means that an adult has to be responsible for this until he is mature enough to do it for himself.

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 1:24am
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I agree with mistey. My almost ten year old dd wears her epi in a pouch around her waist everywhere she goes at school.
This is worn at recess even though there are teachers outside. I do not trust that with all the students to observe they are going to have time to call in to the school for the epi and administer it in the urgency that the need demands.
My dd's school is very good about fa's in general. All the teachers are trained in the use of the epi and symptoms to look for.

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 1:41am
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my son just turned 7 and is in first grade -- he wore his epipen to school last year and this.
my thing about recess -- it seems to me in my opinion that recess -- if it occurs after lunch is actually the place of highest risk -- my sons small reactions have taken place about 2 hours after ingestion ---- so I would think an epipen outside is important.

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 3:03am
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The schools I've talked to always have the teachers on recess duty carry an epipen. Probably mostly for kids who are bee allergic, but why not for PA kids too!? I think they pick up the epipens at the office at the office on the way out the door and return it after recess.

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 3:42am
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Thanks everyone...I think I am going to push DD to wear her epi pen....she is 10, I think she should be able to handle it by now.....
I am just so irritated that the school is making it this big deal...now we have to go back to the doctor to get something that specifically says she has to wear it, IMO, it's rediculous....
The sad part is that my DD wants to be at school so badly, and they are making it so hard for her....

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 3:56am
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Our son had a para for the lunch/recess time only and the para was responsible to watch him and carry his epi pens. I would think that at the very least, one of the recess monitors could carry one for her. We were hesitant to have our son wear one because he was quite active and we didn't want him to get hurt from falling on the case of the epi -
Some schools will only do what they are pushed to do. Could you have your physician write a letter stating that the school is to have an epi available at all times?

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 4:52am
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Did you explain to the nurse that ana can occur up to 2 hours from exposure so that is why she needs it at recess? Good luck!

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 8:05am
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My dd is 11 now and has self carried since 4th grade. Before she self carried, her medicine bag was passed off from teacher to teacher or to recess aid/lunch aid...whatever the case may be. There are also 2 back up epi-pens in the office.
I would not let this go with the school. Recess always seemed like a high risk time for my dd because it was usually right after lunch.
Another thing we did when dd started to self carry was practice how to self administer with the trainer.
Good luck! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 9:41am
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My thoughts? If she EVER needs it (God forbid) do you want to waste valuable minutes waiting for someone to run and get it?
If she gets used to wearing it, it will become second nature.
My DD stated wearing it when she was 4 yrs old. She is now going to be 10 and in grade 5. She recently started carrying 2 epis in her fanny pack and she didn't like it. Here it is 2 months later, and it doesn't even phase her anymore.
If she doesn't have them on, she says she feels like she's not dressed.
Considering this is the ONLY thing that may save her life, I'm glad I "forced" her to wear it so early in life.
BTW, our school encourages ALL anaphylactic kids to wear their epis and medical alert bracelets.
Hope this helps.

Posted on: Tue, 09/25/2007 - 9:43am
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Two things:
- Peanut residue on playgroud equipment
- Bee/wasp stings (can affect any kid)
Staff member carries first aid kid on playground in our school, and has walkie talkie to office too.

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