Helloooo Paranoid Peanut People!!!

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 3:32am
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My 18 month old nephew has a MINOR allergy to peanuts. He develops hives when exposed. Guess what we do? We DON'T give him anything that contains peanuts. We DO still continue eating peanut butter, Thai Food, and nuts. Guess what? He's fine.

It has come to my attention that there is a mother on this forum that gives her daughter epinephrine shots every time her daughter is exposed. Dear paranoid mother...YOU'RE KILLING YOUR CHILD! YOU'RE RUINING HER HEART MUSCLE. EPINEPHRINE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE ESPECIALLY KIDS!!! DO NOT GIVE THEM EPINEPHRINE UNLESS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING RESPIRATORY DISTRESS OR LOWERED BLOOD PRESSURE!!!

Here are the symptoms for anaphylaxis OTHER than skin irritation:

Respiratory symptoms may include shortness of breath, wheezes or stridor, and low oxygen.[14]
[edit] Gastrointestinal

Gastrointestinal symptoms may include crampy abdominal pain, diarrhea, and vomiting.[14]
[edit] Cardiovascular

Due to the presence of histamine-releasing cells in the heart, coronary artery spasm may occur with subsequent myocardial infarction or dysrhythmia.[9]
[edit] Nervous system

A drop in blood pressure may result in a feeling of lightheadedness and loss of consciousness. There may be a loss of bladder control and muscle tone,[14] and a feeling of anxiety and "impending doom".[15]

Now, while you may THINK your child is experiencing ANAPHYLAXIS because they have a skin irritation YOU NEED to realize that skin allergies are only ANNOYING and not an indication of impending DEATH. Skin allergies show MINOR anaphylaxis. EPINEPHRINE SHOULD NOT TO BE ADMINISTERED UNLESS THERE IS RESPIRATORY DISTRESS OR A DROP IN BLOOD PRESSURE! You are DAMAGING YOUR CHILDS HEART!!! Give them Benedryl or another antihistamine!!!!

And just because you're AFRAID they might experience one of the above mention symptoms is AGAIN NOT A REASON TO ADMINISTER EPINEPHRINE!!!

If your child is feeling impending DOOM it's probably because you scared the SHIT out of him or her with this retarded peanut allergy. I know, how about just teaching your children to be a little something called "aware". FEAR is BAD.

That was #1...

Here's #2...someone on this forum told MY sister that my nephew would be better off taken care of by the state. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE! MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN!

My sister is one of the best mother's I've ever seen. My nephew is healthy, happy, and very well mentally balanced. He smiles. He plays. He hides food in his closet. He's not afraid of anything.

If you raise your child to be fearful...your child will be fearful. This leads me to #3...

How many people on this website actually agreed with Bush's war on terror? I bet quite a few. Why? Because you're fearful. OH I DON'T WANT TO DIE! Well, I hate to inform you of this but death...is part of life. If you live in FEAR you should probably not be alive anyway.

I think any parent on here who is giving their children UNNECESSARY EPINEPHRINE shots...and when i say UNNECESSARY I mean they ARE NOT experiencing respiratory distress or lowered blood pressure...should have their child taken away...

Does anyone on here KNOW what epinephrine does to your heart?? Here is the MSDS sheet on epinephrine from sciencelab.com

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9923913

My sister is allergic to avocados in a way where she experiences TRUE anaphylaxis. She experiences her throat closing up and she can't breathe. She does not carry an epi pen for HERSELF!! She just stays away from avocados...well how about that? Seems pretty easy and smart.

I would be FAR more concerned with making my child DEAD from over exposure to epinephrine, than I would from peanuts...and I have a nephew and a best friend with a child who has an allergy.

Now why don't ya'll go make yourself a big fat peanut butter sandwich, with a big glass of milk, then choke on it.

Posted on: Sun, 06/12/2011 - 11:31pm
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Why are you on this site?

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 3:58am
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Neither is the crap the people on this website have said to my sister.
Why can't you ask? Why can't you be aware of what you're eating? Why do people have to accomodate you?
This website only places fear in people. My sister called out misinformation given on this site and was kicked out. Do you think that's okay?
And also, you don't think people should be aware of unnecessarily administering epinephrine to their child and the consequences? Did you read the MSDS sheet?
You need to learn to be aware of what you're ingesting. It's very simple so really you only have you to blame for your own hospitalizations.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 4:00am
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The information I have provided is extremely extremely important to people who are using epinephrine.
MSDS is important. People need to know that they are killing their children through paranoia.

Posted on: Sun, 06/12/2011 - 11:32pm
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There are varying levels of allergy sensitivites.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 4:17am
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Well, that's a risk you take when you accidentally ingest something that you have an allergic reaction to.
I urinate BLOOD when I drink aspertame. Guess what? Aspartame is in ALMOST everything. Sometimes I can't avoid it. It's causing me kidney damage....but oh well. What am I going to do about it?
In regards to my comments, tell me, did you say anything when the woman who told my sister ON YOUR FORUM that my nephew is better off with the state because she keeps peanuts and peanut butter in the house when he has an allergy? I'm gonna say, probably not. You probably disregarded it.
I'm sure you're not also aware of the post where a woman says she administers epi every time her daughter is exposed. AGAIN POSTED ON THIS SITE.
So, if I were you, I would suggest reading every single post on every single forum and defending EVERYONE versus just me who is pissed because my sister's feeling were HURT when she looked for help.
There's one thing to make everyone aware. There's another thing to limit people's freedom because a few people are allergic.
I'm sorry you're allergic. It's what we deal with as human beings. Stop spreading unnecessary paranoia.
Stop with the paranoia.

Posted on: Sun, 06/12/2011 - 11:33pm
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I'm sorry your sister got bad advice.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 5:49am
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It wasn't bad advice. It was outright insults from individuals on this site. She called out misinformation and the people who she called it on didn't like it. She was kicked off the site. Wow...thanks for the support.
And you need to realize...which you should already know...that an allergy can worsen or even get better with age. She is trying to make sure she has all the information, which, after experience from this, she has decided, she would rather risk the allergy than deal with this sort of thing on a forum that's supposed to help.
What about people with allergies to bees? Should we put children in a bubble so they won't get stung? Get rid of any products that come from bees?
What about my sister's allergy to avocado WHICH will KILL her. Should we cut down all the avocado trees? Also, they serve avocado in schools and I don't see anyone crapping their pants over that.
Also, calling me ignorant is in fact...ignorant. How do you know I'm ignorant? Why aren't you the one that's ignorant? I mean, let's stop and think about this...
In this country we have children who are undereducated in a broken education system that worked about ohhhh...50 years ago...yet we have parents here fighting over peanuts. Really? Why not put that effort into changing the education system?
Or maybe we could focus on...children who aren't eating...
Orrrrr people who don't have healthcare.
Banning peanuts in schools is the least of these children's problems. Paranoia is the biggest...and that's what you guys cause.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 5:54am
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Btw...good job keeping the big pharmaceutical companies in business since epi shots are $120+/piece. OF COURSE you want to carry one. There's too much propaganda to suggest otherwise...
Who's ignorant now?

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 6:46am
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You're right, you're not ignorant, you're just being stupid and malicious. Because somebody upset your sister, you think it gives you validation to come on and attack people under the label "advice". Even if you aren't being ignorant, your argument would still be sabotaged by your statement: "Now why don't ya'll go make yourself a big fat peanut butter sandwich, with a big glass of milk, then choke on it."
The advice on epi-pens has some merit, and telling people that they have no right to tell your sister to that her child would be better taken care of by the state has merit. But telling people they should go kill themselves doesn't. Why would they listen to you. Would you listen to someones advice if they said "go drink a 2-liter of diet coke and die of kidney disease." I hope not, because it's not good advice.
You are judging everyone on here's life without having all of the facts about their individual situations. You present yourself as someone who has the answer to every person on this forum's individual problem, but you don't; you just have glib, angry advice, and insults. You are unwilling to listen to anyone else's. Just like the person who told your sister that her child would be better taken care of by the state was ignorant. They didn't know your sister or anything about how your sister raises her child, and they attacked her because your sister disagreed with them. Sounds like what your doing. Are you on this website because you actually think you are helping people? Or are you trying to emotionally hurt people on this website because a couple of people on this website emotionally hurt your sister?
And your general advice seems to be "If you're allergic to peanuts stay away from them. It's your own responsibility. And if you get burned by eating something allergic it's your fault. Guess what? That same advice goes for people searching the internet. Anyone can say anything on the internet and sometimes you get terrible advice, and you seek it out and listen to it, and get upset by it, that's your fault. Like what you've said on this website has upset me and bothered me, but I'm aware that on open forums like this people can post anything, hateful or unhelpful as it may be, and I deal with it. I suggest your sister should be aware of this next time she gets on the internet.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 7:10am
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Good. I'm glad you're upset. Now you know how she feels. And damn skippy I'm going to come on here to defend her, especially considering the alternative medicines out there that everyone avoids and the culture that these children are simply not going to be able to experience based on their unnecessary fear of peanuts.
Everyone's looking for EASY. Anyone tried to raise their immunity to peanuts? With the exception of people like Samantha418, who has a deathly allergy, it's possible but no one wants to try it
Did you know that there are more overdoses related to drugs than to peanuts? Why not going out and fight the fight to stop drug cartels.
Interesting how everyone here throws out that I'm ignorant after when she discussed the peanut patch, people treated her like out right trash.
Everything I've state on here is plain facts, yet I'm ignorant. Anyone look at the MSDS sheet for epinephrine? Is that even posted on here? Are there any warnings for epinephrine and over exposure to it on this site? No...
Easy...easy...easy...that's what you want...

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 7:17am
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My point of this post is simply...people come here looking for help...insulting their alternatives to YOUR solutions, is not the way to go about it...

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 7:17am
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My point of this post is simply...people come here looking for help...insulting their alternatives to YOUR solutions, is not the way to go about it...

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 7:55am
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And the point of my post was that your sister got offended by a FEW people on this site, so you took that as reason to insult and attack every person on this website. And you didn't just insult them, you told them they could all eat a peanut butter sandwich and choke to death. You weren't just trying to make people aware to different points of views, you were trying to emotionally hurt them.
Your excuse was that they insulted your sister (they hit me first, that's a child's excuse and you should be embarrassed), so you acted just like the people who you were criticizing, except you didn't even act that way towards the individuals who offended your sister. You attacked an entire community. If Person A insults you, that doesn't give you the right to insult Person C because person is related in some way to Person A. Really, you should be mature and not attack anyone and be the bigger person. But hey, people lose their tempers when they are directly attacked sometimes and lash out; but there is no justification for attacking everyone.

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 8:55am
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You people are amazing. You're missing the point. You are avoiding facts. I have other concerns which are totally being ignored because you're feelings are hurt.
You are trying to limit the freedoms of MANY people over a very very small population that could be controlled if you chose to. Here is what I stated:
- People are over using epinephrine on their children and being supported by other people on the site for their bad decisions
- You are trying to ban peanuts in school which is just completely socially irresponsible considering that there are children starving and MOST children are not allergic to peanuts.
- You completely disregard other peoples opinions and disregard alternatives to your problem.
- You are trying to limit people's person freedoms
And yeah, people on this site hurt my sister and she was kicked out of a forum. That's silliness.
All of this...silliness...

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 8:57am
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Anyway, I'm bored now. Haha!
I might come back to bug you...so beware...

Posted on: Fri, 06/10/2011 - 11:43am
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Yea, i'm not denying any of that stuff. Can you quote where I denied that stuff? I'm not trying to get people to ban peanuts, or use epi-pen's unsafely, or not encourage people to use people to attempt to build immunity in their children when they're young if their doctors say it is safe.
I was just trying to point out that you method of argumentation is completely inoffensive, malicious and hateful. And you continue to ignore THAT. You didn't quote the part of your argument where you told people to go eat a peanut butter sandwich and choke. So if you had a decent explanation for that, I'd be interested.

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