Was reaction from peanut or egg? Now I\'m the \"bad\" mommy!

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 2:28pm
Renee111064's picture
Joined: 07/05/2001 - 09:00

Took my ds's out for a special treat tonight. Ice cream. Well my pa son had an allergic reaction immediately after eating ice cream with brownie added in.

I have never given him anything other that turkey hill chocolate and vanilla ice cream.

Tonight I took the boys to DQ, yes I know it is taboo for almost eveyone one here, but I have never had my ds react to ice cream before.

I thought the sundae was hot fudge only but it had brownie pieces in it too. There were no visible nuts in it. He is also allergic to egg. When he has tried homemade cookies etc he always complained about his tongue burning. I knew it was the egg.

Tonight right after he ate the sundae he went running into the bathroom and threw it all back up. THis is the [b]"FIRST"[/b] time he has ever thrown up. He also stated his tongue was tingly. My heart was in my throat.

I didn't realize that the ice cream had brownies in it and now I feel guilty because he had this reaction. I should have know better than to give him this. I usually only let him get plain ice cream.

I have watched him sleep for the past two hours checking to make sure he is breathing.

Just thinking now that [b]I[/b] could have killed him tonight. {Tears flowing down my cheeks thinking of this.) Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 2:42pm
KarenH's picture
Joined: 09/21/2002 - 09:00

It was an honest mistake. Like you said, you didn't realize that the ice cream had brownies in it. Even as an adult, picking my own food-tonight I went to get an ice cream at the store and had to exchange it because the one I picked ended up containing almonds. I almost ate it-and was out without the epi pen, too.
DO NOT beat yourself up over this. We all have different comfort zones and while DQ is taboo for a lot of people here, I'm sure it's not for everyone. Like you said, you've never had a problem before. So your comfort zone included DQ, which is not bad or a crime at all. Nobody would judge you for that. I eat there myself.
And had the reaction been a lot worse, you have been right there, checking on him, you would've had the epi-pen ready and done all the right things, because you're a GOOD MOM. But we're not all perfect, we slip up, we make mistakes. Today my son did a superman style fly off a rock ledge and landed spread eagle on rock 4 ft. below. (he slipped) I chastised myself for not watching him more carefully. (in fact I was sure we'd be making an ER visit for something broken).
So you can take this experience as a learning thing and maybe do things different next time. But don't keep thinking "I almost killed him."
[This message has been edited by KarenH (edited July 30, 2003).]

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 8:49pm
Claire's picture
Joined: 04/19/2000 - 09:00

The first thing i am thinking is that the brownie probably had nuts in it. they usually do at ice cream shops. I hope your DS is doing ok today. I know the feeling of it feeling like it is our fault. To tell you the truth I don't think we ever get over that feeling either. Good luck and call DQ and just ask them if their contains nuts. It will help in knowing for the future. CLaire

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 10:01pm
samirosenjacken's picture
Joined: 09/30/2002 - 09:00

If you want to go to DQ you may want to stick with the simple soft serve in a bowl. I spoke with the manager there. The soft serve at our DQ has NO contact with peanuts. It's not near the peanuts.. it's not made with peanuts... and I would not use a cone but a bowl.

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 10:14pm
darthcleo's picture
Joined: 11/08/2000 - 09:00

Soft serve is the only commercial ice cream I would trust. All others are to be considered contaminated. That means you can eat it 9 times, and get sick the 10th time..
That said, I hope you start feeling better about yourself. We all made mistakes at one point. Mine was giving an oatmeal cookie from a place that didn't guarantee them peanut-free (and they do have peanuts all over the place). After the first bite, he cried and cried and cried. He was only 2 years old. Since then my comfort zone has really tightened up. It's been almost 5 years since the diagnostic.
I got an ice cream maker instead. And now I can give him chocolate ice cream with pieces of cake in it, without having to worry.

Posted on: Wed, 07/30/2003 - 3:44am
Shebang's picture
Joined: 07/30/2003 - 09:00

I wouldn't trust the soft-serve stuff, either.
Many years ago, my first job was at a DQ. At night, the soft-serve machine is emptied into a bucket which is stored in the walk-in freezer over-night. The next morning, its contents are put back into the machine, along with the stuff to make more to mix in with the old.
One of the kids who worked in the kitchen didn't know what that bucket in the freezer was. He thought it was a "slop" bucket, and he would dump left-over food into it. Bits of hamburger, pickles, french fries, etc. I caught him doing that one night and screamed a blue streak at him.
Now I don't know that all DQ's follow this procedure, but I do know I'd be extremely careful. Call your local DQ and talk to the manager. Find out what their specific procedure is with regards to the soft-serve machine, before you have that cone.

Posted on: Wed, 07/30/2003 - 10:09am
darthcleo's picture
Joined: 11/08/2000 - 09:00

Personally, I'd never trust DQ either... We take our soft ice cream from two places. One is owned by my uncle, and the other one is owned by a family with a PA member. The store used to be owned by the parents. They have 3 kids, one is severely PA. When the parents retired the two kids that could continued the store. They're very PA aware, and train all their staff. They also know their customers, and would not serve my son hard ice cream even if he asked for it. So yeah, I can trust their soft ice cream.

Posted on: Wed, 07/30/2003 - 12:38pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous (not verified)

Shebang, that was an interesting website link you posted, I guess..... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img]
At any rate, Renee11064, do not beat yourself up about this. I just posted earlier to-day that until last year I was okay with Dairy Queen. It only became something that I felt uncomfortable with (and Jesse as well) last year at the age of 6.
I don't know if DQ is the same in the U.S. as it is here but the place is full of peanuts. It's just my opinion, but I don't think it was egg in the brownie (although it could have been) but probably a PA reaction.
As Claire pointed out, brownies usually have nuts in them.
Okay, so you let your son try something new? Who here hasn't? And as I posted to California Mom to-day, you think about brownies and kids and they just kinda go together (those weren't my words to California Mom) and yet Jesse just tried his FIRST brownie ever within the last six months because I finally found a safe one.
I hope that your son is okay and I hope that you aren't. I don't think you're BAD MOMMY at all. You're human. And you wouldn't have killed your son, you are prepared to deal with a reaction.
Think of if you weren't a PA Mom (which is kinda hard to do since we're not). You're all eating your ice cream and Mom's head is off in the clouds (where mine most often is except when Jesse is eating [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] ) and you would have been enjoying your ice cream and not noticed that there was something wrong immediately. Do you know what I mean?
I think what ultimately might be disheartening to you is that you may never know for 100% sure whether it was egg or peanut, but at least it kinda opened your eyes to both, sadly. I think *mystery* reactions are the hardest ones to deal with because we never really get the answer we feel we need to prevent the same thing from happening again.
And I remember plenty of people posting here that they felt okay about DQ and how to safely go there and enjoy their ice cream, so don't beat yourself up about that either!
I hope you're both okay. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Big hugs. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 07/31/2003 - 1:41am
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by Alternative to Mainstream:
[b]Shebang, that was an interesting website link you posted, I guess..... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img]
I could be wrong, but I don't think that's supposed to be a website link. Only 4 letters (EOSL) are there, so I read it to be her sign-off... perhaps her initials?
Hope you'll respond to clarify, Shebang.

Posted on: Thu, 07/31/2003 - 2:21am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] Only 4 letters (EOSL) are there, so I read it to be her sign-off... perhaps her initials?
"End of Service Life"?
something "Operating System" something?
(My two guesses) [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
intriguing site, btw.
"Shebang": I think, "creation of the universe type deal". I like it. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
a hearty "O-pa" to you!
MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 07/31/2003 - 5:54am
California Mom's picture
Joined: 07/14/2000 - 09:00

Gail W, if you click on the four letters a web-site pops up. This is what Cindy was talking about. Someone else (in another thread) explained that this is common among bulletin board users at other sights. Count me among the people who were as stumped as Cindy before the clarification.
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Miriam


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