Unexplained Reaction Today....

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I'm soooooooooooo frustrated and could think of no better place to vent [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] Timmy started complaining this morning of feeling itchy. I've been getting this a LOT lately and feel like we are overdoing on the benedryl and that its not going to work when we need it to and have tried not to give it to him unless there is a noticable reaction (hives, eye swelling) etc... but he seems to be having a lot of reactions lately [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] Anyway... I checked and he had two small hives on his back but that was it and decided to hold off a bit to see if it got better. He does not have school the rest of the week because of teacher conferences and was at home all day with NO KNOWN allergens in the house! By early afternoon his eyes started looking puffy and he had a couple of hives on his arm so I went ahead and gave him benedryl because he said his mouth felt a little "funny". About a half hour later he was in tears saying he was itching really bad... I looked at his arm and there were hives the size of quarters all down his one arm! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] We took a trip to the Pediatrician and he prescribed a steroid. We talked about all the reactions he's been having at nap time at school also and he suggested telling them he needed to sleep on a cot or somehow off the floor at nap time (even gave me a perscription noting this for the school, not sure how this is going to go over!) He also suggested that we give serious consideration to home schooling him! I'm at the point of tears trying to figure out what he is reacting to! The only thing he had new was some Kellogg's Frosted Krispies Cereal. I've called Kellogg's 3 times but have not been able to find out if cross-contamination could be an issue... have to call back again tomorrow. Thanks for letting me vent! Valerie

On Sep 26, 2001

By the Way... the Kellogs box said nothing about nuts whatsoever... seemed safe. Valerie

On Sep 26, 2001

Valerie, sorry to hear about your son. It is so frustrating to see your child having a reaction and not knowing why...such a helpless feeling. My son has a lot of allergies and sensitivities (such as to chlorine in public pools) so like you, I try to hold off on the Benadryl. If he gets a few hives, I put hydrocortisone cream on the area and wait and see. If he worsens, then, like you, I give the Benadryl.

After my son has a new reaction, I write down the things he had to eat the day before and that day to the best of my knowledge and then try detecting from there. One time my son reacted after eating fresh grapes. Yet, he could drink grape juice and eat raisins just fine. After quite some detection work, I think he was reacting to the sulfite packets that sometimes get packed in fresh grapes when they ship the grapes to the store. Apparently there's no sulfite skin or blood testing so I just avoid fresh grapes with him.

Sometimes you never find out what causes a reaction. And worse, sometimes it's something airborne. Was your son outside that it could have been something in the air such as pollen or ragweed or newly cut grass?

As for the mats at school, Lillian Vernon sells a personalized thin rollup sleeping bag for daycare situations. I've also seen little cots at daycare centers so you might want to shop online to see if you can purchase one, too.

I can't remember what else you asked so I'll post this and then might have to edit after I re-read your message. Take care and hope this digital hug helps. Warmly, Julie B.

The edit: The Kellogg's question. Since my son has multiple allergies, I can't serve him Kellogg's. But, I've read quite a bit about other people on this site having problems with Kellogg's responding and worse, giving consistent and clear-cut information. You might want to do a search for Kellogg's. I can't remember (it's the pain from the foot surgery from yesterday..grin) if there are two boards (Manufacturers and Safe&Unsafe Products) or if it's one combined board. Anyhow, do a search and you'll see you're not the only one having problems with Kellogg's responding. Take care!

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On Sep 26, 2001

Valerie,

Sorry to hear about your son's reaction! How is he now?

How old is he? Can you think of anything external that may have caused the hives? What did he eat before bed?

What are your son's usual first signs of a reaction? My son's are itching/hives on the back of his neck and a strange cough (ingestion), and itching/hives at the site after contact. Is there any way you can at least figure out if it was from ingestion or contact?

Was anyone else in your home yesterday or this morning?

Sorry for all the questions; I'm grasping at straws to try to help out a little.

Take care, Tammy

On Sep 26, 2001

I'm sitting here close to tears after reading all of the back posts on Kellogg's and beating myself over the head for not having read them before!!! I thought that if I was carefully reading every ingredient label (usually spend at least 2 to 3 hours per week grocery shopping) that my PA son would be safe... NOT! I am soooooooo angry with Kellogg's I could just spit!!!!! From everything I read this box was definately made in a plant that manufactures peanut containing products but the box has no allergy warning period and the ingredient label seems very safe. My poor son (who just turned 6 on Saturday) still has hives the size of quarters and dimes on his arm and face and now is complaining that his belly is itchy also. UGH! This is after having Benedryl, Prelone, Zyrtec and Singulair!!

How could a company be so IRRESPONSIBLE?? What would it take to put a small warning that says manufactured in the same plant??? I'm furious with them and with myself! I've been beating myself up about this all day trying to figure out what happened in this supposedly "safe" environment that I've tried to make for my son!!

Sorry for ranting... I'm just soooooo frustrated with watching Timmy be so miserable!

Julie and Tammy, Thanks for caring! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Valerie

On Sep 27, 2001

Oh, Valerie! Please tell me your son is BETTER this morning!!

My son had hives that would not go away even after being on Benadryl for 24 hours. The hives eventually spread all over him. When they encroached on his face/mouth and he started coughing, we finally gave him the Epi and went to the ER. His reaction was NOT from ingestion - it was from contact. He cleared right up after the ER trip and after we figured out that the offending allergen was his Pull Up!! He was potty trained on the spot and never had any more hives.

Is there ANY chance at all he's having a contact reaction and the allergen is still present???? Has he shown any signs that anything internal has been affected (trouble breathing, cramps, vomiting, diarrhea, etc.)? My son has had 2 ingestion reactions, both of which affected his insides, not his outsides at all. I suppose it's possible for someone to do the reverse - only have external signs even with ingestion?

I do understand that ingestion reaction hives can linger, but I'm not sure how long to expect them to keep showing up.

Hang in there! Tammy

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On Sep 27, 2001

We were told by Kelloggs that ALL their frosted coatings contain almond. Apparently it helps keep it crunchier, so if he has tree nut allergies, that could be the problem.

I hope he's feeling better.

On Sep 27, 2001

Neighborgal,

My elder (non-PA) son had some very bizarre hive flare-ups that lasted for weeks at a time, starting when he was about 4. We went through all sorts of testing, and the final theory form his allergist and pediatrician was that he had some virus that causes hives. It would flare for weeks, go away, and come back. Often an ear infection or cold would start it, then it would take several weeks to go away. During this time (understandably) his mood was VICIOUS!

I hope you can find the source of your son's problem, but if not, ask your pediatrician if this virus is a possibility.

Best wishes,

Amy

On Sep 27, 2001

Thank you for all the suggestions... they are GREATLY appreciated! I think we have figured out the culprit was the Kellogg's cereal... I finally got hold of someone from Kelloggs after trying all morning and she was very kind and sweet about the whole thing. After reading what was posted on another thread about the different plants and the one that did manufacture the peanut/nut containing stuff I found that the cereal I had DID come from the nut plant although Kelloggs would not admit this... just kept saying that if there was a possibility of cross contamination that it (pn) would be put on the label as one of the ingredients. I told her that I felt very strongly that they need to have better labeling that lets us know that it was manufactured in the same plant... that it was a life and death issue and not to be skirted around. Anyway... will NOT buy Kellogg's products anymore as my comfort zone has definately tightened several notches!

He does still have hives today but they are slowly getting smaller. He seems like he is feeling a lot better too.

Did you ever just have one of "those" days!?! Thats the way today has been! Woke up this morning with no phone because I had paid the bill 12 hours late so had to go to my sweet In-Laws house to call the phone company and Kellogg's. Then on our way home we got rear ended and the bumper tore up on our mini-van! (For those who don't know at the beginning of the summer -June 15th- we were at a red light and got rear ended by a fast moving dump truck... totaled all three vehicles involved and we were all very fortunate to have walked away alive! I had 6 kids in the van with me during that accident- just my 4 today.) Needless to say the kids are still pretty shook up so I'm going to take them to McDonald's or something to get their minds off all this!

Take Care, Valerie

On Sep 27, 2001

Lam:

I have a PA toddler (2yrs) who has just started potty training and I am also using pull-ups. (for about 3 weeks now). Since I read your e-mail I relaize that he has been coughing - a lot - for no real reason and from what I can tell wheezing from time to time though he has not been diagnosed with Asthma. Just seems to have coincided with the start of using the pull-ups. What is it about pull-ups that can cause a reaction???? Help! Klara

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Originally posted by Lam: [b]Oh, Valerie! Please tell me your son is BETTER this morning!!

My son had hives that would not go away even after being on Benadryl for 24 hours. The hives eventually spread all over him. When they encroached on his face/mouth and he started coughing, we finally gave him the Epi and went to the ER. His reaction was NOT from ingestion - it was from contact. He cleared right up after the ER trip and after we figured out that the offending allergen was his Pull Up!! He was potty trained on the spot and never had any more hives.

Is there ANY chance at all he's having a contact reaction and the allergen is still present???? Has he shown any signs that anything internal has been affected (trouble breathing, cramps, vomiting, diarrhea, etc.)? My son has had 2 ingestion reactions, both of which affected his insides, not his outsides at all. I suppose it's possible for someone to do the reverse - only have external signs even with ingestion?

I do understand that ingestion reaction hives can linger, but I'm not sure how long to expect them to keep showing up.

Hang in there! Tammy

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On Sep 27, 2001

Valerie, Glad to hear your son is feeling better!! But so sorry about the accident! Gosh!!

Klara, I just e-mailed you.

Take care, All! Tammy

On Sep 27, 2001

For these prolonged reactions, one shot of an epipen would get rid of it just like that. i am a believer of the epipen in these instances. Never know when the reaction could become life threatening. Just my two cents. Glad he is feeling better. What a miserable thing to have a reaction to something that you do not know what or what you think is safe. I wish that these food allergies would just go away. very stressful.

On Sep 27, 2001

More on pull-ups: My son Henry, who's now almost potty trained (he wears diapers only at night), had reactions to Huggies pull-ups and also to Huggies after they added some scent to their diapers. He would get hives primarily after he had been sleeping, and even after I stopped the pull-ups he got hives until I washed all his bedding, so whatever is in the diapers must leak out. It was hard to pinpoint because he got the hives on his belly and legs, not under the diaper, but as soon as I stopped using them the hives went away. I would recommend that you look for diapers without scents or dyes--I have been using the Baby Basics diapers sold in the drugstore with no problems, and they're also cheaper than Huggies.

------------------ henry's mom

On Sep 28, 2001

Neighborgal,Sorry about your son having a reaction. We went camping on Labor day and my little one came up to me itching and was covered in hives. Actually I bought him home and gave him benedryl. He woke up in the morning and was better. Then I went back to camp and when he played he was covered with hives again. I then realized that it was something to do with the grass. When we got home he walked in the grass with my husband to put the camper away and he sure enough was hives again. When he was in long sleeves he was fine. Anyway what i am wondering is there a chance that your son has been playing in any grass or weeds. I wish I had learned more in school because I know I would be doing the homeschooling. I just know that I am not strict enough with my kids to do so. If they whine I would be the one saying ok. go play and we will get to it later. Best wishes to you and your son. claire

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