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Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 7:42am
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Count me as another parent whose PA child has always had bumpy, dry, irritated skin. Of course I use both Tide AND Bounce. Or I guess I should say that I DID use them... unbelievable... headed to the P&G site right now to add my comments.
Miriam

Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 8:09am
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I have been frantic over this since I read this yesterday morning. I have been calling everyone who we see on a regular basis to see what detergent, softner, etc that they use. I had checked detergents a while back but didn't ask for anything else. (At that point, his ped thought he was reacting to someone's detergent because sometimes he would break out anywhere clothes or diaper weren't.) After that I started putting one of his blankets between him and whoever was holding him. That however gets to be cumbersome and hard to explain and sometimes too hot for Stephen. Before handing off my child off it was bad enough trying to find out what they had eaten and if they had washed their hands etc, now to ask what detergent do they use?? YEAH RIGHT!! I guess I will go back to the "DO NOT TOUCH MY CHILD" attitude I had before. It's so hard though as everyone wants to hold or in the least touch the baby. Guess, I will go back to letting people think I am overly paranoid. As they are not the ones who are up all night trying to soothe a screaming, crying, itching seven month old who is broken out from head to toe and itches so much he makes himself bleed.
Jami

Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 10:02am
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Hi Everyone,
Thanks so much for posting this news, Arachide! I happen to use all three products for my husbands and my clothes, but not for our 3 year old pa son who's got eczema as well. One thing I've noticed though was when my husband or I would hold our son, and (for example) his face was resting on our shoulder, his face would get red (not like an eczema breakout). We thought it was due to body heat. Now I'm thinking differently. I havent' switched to a stronger laundry detergent for my son - we still use Dreft because of the eczema. But I've just noticed that Dreft is also made by P&G. Many years ago, I heard that Tide POWDER had peanut shells (but that was 15-20 years ago). Now I'm wondering about the Dreft because it is a powder. I've also been guilty of using a couple drops of Downey (a big eczema no-no) in my sons laundry (followed by a second final rinse cycle) to break the winter static. And, although I don't use dryer sheets in my sons clothes, I do use Bounce for ours ... I'm sure there's probably some residue left in the dryer. I'm absolutely furious that P&G hasn't put any kind of statement on their packaging. Are they legally immune for some reason? Does anyone know? I'll be looking forward to seeing what other people are using, but I think it's wise for all of us to check with the manufacturers before doing the next load. If Tide uses peanut, there's a good chance that others will too. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 10:12pm
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Thanks for the useful (and surprising) information. I usually buy other brands, and without fragrance or dyes because I have had hives from the Tide (and so has my mother). The brands I buy, however, do not clean as well, and just last week I was looking longingly at the Tide in the store because it was on sale and it cleans so much better. But I didn't buy it, and certainly will not buy any Tide again. We do not use dryer sheets anyway--they have always seemed one more way for the manufacturers to get consumers to spend more money.
This goes back to what I feel is the biggest problem--accurate labelling. Who knows what is in other products with "fragrances"? For us, almond oil would be just as dangerous. I think that sharing information like this, contacting manufacturers/restaurants and working on truth in labelling is the most valuable thing this site does. Thanks.

Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 10:57pm
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Beth38 - credit goes to ProtectMyBoy for spilling the beans on P&G. I merely posted about it in the Alerts forum so more would see this shocking piece of info.
I remember seeing tv ads for fragrance-free detergents several years ago, but nothing recently. Anyone know of existing brands that would suit the fragrance-free bill - both American and/or Canadian? Where can these be purchased? Drugstores? Grocery stores? Of course they must cost more than the regular detergents... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sun, 03/11/2001 - 11:37pm
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Arachide,
I am in the US, but I always use ALL free and clear, it has been mentioned on this thread before, but I thought I would mention where I buy it, pretty much any where, the super market, wal-mart, target, But I usually buy it at Costco, I get the huge liquid in the dispenser that sits on a shelf usually for about 11.00 (which is actually less than others like tide). The smallest bottle that I get at wal-mart or the market is usually 3.00 or 4.00 which is also less than tide I believe.

Posted on: Mon, 03/12/2001 - 12:00am
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Hi- well, I called first thing today and spoke with a Tracy Sparks. She was very helpful and said she would be very willing to check any product for me. They keep a list of products that people have asked about regarding certain allergens. This way, info can be immediately told to us. She said that when she checked Tide, no one had called about it and it wasn't on the list, so she is calling me back (may take a few days) after she speaks with research. She did say that Gain was asked about and it DOES NOT contain any peanut product. I also asked about Cascade Dishwashing detergent and it again DOES NOT contain any pa products. When asked about Downey and Bounce, the list said there is a derivative of what could be a peanut product. They are not sure, but to be safe, they ask us to avoid using them. She then gave me their address and said that they would be happy to go through my list of products to determine if they were safe. When I went to their website, I made note of all their products I use. The address to write is :
Proctor and Gamble Consumer Relations
P. O. Box 599
Cincinatti Ohio 45201
Tracy said to get a list together and send it in. Of course I told her about labeling and to reiterate my concerns about there being no warning. She will pass this on. When I write, I will make sure to let them know everything about PA/labeling/FAAN. I always check/call about every product. I know that I called Tide 3 yrs ago, and was told that there wasn't any peanut product in it. My daughter has ezcema and I didn't want to use Tide on her because it was too harsh. I use ALL free and clear and have had no problems. I just started using Tide's free and clear- but will hold off for now. Well, hopefully, if we all get together on this, we can get them to start labeling properly. Tracy said they listen to all complaints and take them seriously! I will mail my letter today, and will update when I get a response. Kelly

Posted on: Mon, 03/12/2001 - 12:00am
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I will definately not be using any of these products again but I am curious if this only applies to the liquid or the powder or both. I was laying in bed last night thinking about this when that thought popped into my mind.

Posted on: Mon, 03/12/2001 - 1:41am
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I to have been trying to find out the reasons behind the mystery itches and came in here last night to find out it may be what I am using to wash with. I just recently moved and tide was on sale we hadn't used it before as my husband said he was allgeric to it but all was fine but AXel was itching if he sweated. I too called P&G this morning the only detergent the woman said that didn't list that it had no peanut was GAIN and that bounce and Downy as long as it was no fragrances or dyes were ok. Anything with fragrances or dyes has this thing that might be peanut she said. They have nothing on tide and are checking. I was the 5th call she had gotten and I warned her to be prepared for all of us to be calling. She also said the more people call the more the product development people will be doing. I also brought up the labeling issue and she said she would forward it on.christyn

Posted on: Mon, 03/12/2001 - 2:01am
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I buy All Free and Clear too..in bulk at BJ's. Are we sure it doesn't contain peanut oil? I just sent Unilever an e-mail.
Off the subject of peanut oil but I should mention here that my friend just became an EMT and warned me how dangerous detergent is if a toddler swallows it. I looked around my laundry room and there stacked up on the floor was my detergent - right a toddler height. I now keep it up high out of toddler reach and the extras up high in the basement.
OH!...another additional comment...all of the OshKosh labels endorse Tide. I think we should start in on Osh-Kosh that they not endorse a product that contains peanut oil!
[This message has been edited by Heather (edited March 12, 2001).]

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