There has to be a link.. PA and autism

Posted on: Wed, 03/15/2006 - 6:33pm
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Hi all,
The more people I come into contact with in the autism world ... I find more and more have another child, usually typical developing, with a PA. I know 6 people in my area of Phoenix personally that have a children with either autism and PA. If I ever have time I would love to research more into this. My 5 yo is recovered from autism and my 3 yo has PA. There has to be some inflammation/immune issue that triggered my kids to have these issues I believe. There is no history of autism/developmental disorder or food allergies in my family.. until my kids. My youngest sis (25) just dx with Lupus, another autoimmune issue, and my middle sis has vitalgo..once again autoimmune problem...

Any one have a connection between PA and autism? I know a lot of children with autism are on very strict diets of no wheat, dairy, soy and corn.. all due to food intolerances and chronic GI problems. I thought I would just throw this out here to see if anyone else sees a similarity.

No, I don't think its because autism and/or FA are more diagnosed now.. there is a link -somewhere.
Andrea

Posted on: Wed, 03/15/2006 - 7:19pm
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A connection? I never see one.
But I know theres always talk of kids with autism on 'special diets' that COULD mimic FA diets.
So we're all in the same boat...
Jason
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Posted on: Wed, 03/15/2006 - 9:21pm
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I am a one on one with Autistic children. I always have to go right home and change because the only food they eat is PB. I know they have no food allergies in the home. We often do talk about Christophers allergy and they say they are glad they don't have it to deal with. They have enough just with the autism to deal with.
Claire

Posted on: Wed, 03/15/2006 - 10:35pm
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I too think there is a link between other autoimmune disorders and PA. My oldest child has a form of arthritis and was diagnosed when she was just 5, my middle son had an immune deficiency when he was 3-5. None of his vaccines worked...we had to do them again because his body did not make antibodies correctly. He also has a significant language disorder that the neuropsychologist said might have developed because his immune system was not working correctly. Now child 3 is the one with PA.
I also have a nephew who is non-communicatible autistic. He is now 6 and every effort has been made to help him without much success.
We also have many other autoimmune disorders...lupus, connective tissue disorders...further along the bloodlines.
I have always thought that the PA was connected to the rest of the disorders. I don't, however, know if much research has been done on the subject.
Donna

Posted on: Wed, 03/15/2006 - 10:47pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Claire:
[b]I am a one on one with Autistic children. I always have to go right home and change because the only food they eat is PB. I know they have no food allergies in the home. [/b]
this is a stereotype and a sweeping generalization. Neither of my children on the autism spectrum eat pb. or peanuts in any form. They are allergic to it. My oldest son's "one to one" aide knows this.
Quote:[b]We often do talk about Christophers allergy and they say they are glad they don't have it to deal with. They have enough just with the autism to deal with.
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another stereotype and sweeping generalization. People frequently tell me how lucky we are as a family. Personally? I think we have less baggage than most families. People have told me they covet my family. Go Figure. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I mean, I have to ask: what are people trying to convince themselves of? Guess it might be a matter of perspective, but hey, I'm in the choir. But I've heard it's not as terrible as I might think to be "normal". [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 7:28am
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Interesting topic, people talk about a link between autism and immune system conditions. Some autistic kids are PA and some are not. Some benefit from special gluten free casein free diets, some do not. Lots of unanswered questions in this puzzle. Lots.
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Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 9:39am
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Mommabear, I guess I am being misunderstood and it is driving me crazy. I am in NO way stereotyping your child. I am saying that he children I am with will only eat PB and are not allergic to it. So therefore that tells me that we can not link food allergies and autism to a definete thing. I am saying that just because a child has autism does not mean they will be allergic to PB.
I am not saying it is a bad thing that I have to go home and change my clothes but that I do have to. Just because the children do eat PB everyday and I don't want to risk a bad thing for Christopher.
I would do this no matter what child I am around eating pb.
What I mean about the families saying that they are glad they don't have to deal with PB is this: The parents often tell me they are glad they don't have my PB problem.
As far as me coming onto this thread and stereotyping a child PLEASE realize you are touching a very soft spot with me.
I love any child no matter whom they are or what they are. I don't care if a child has a learning disorder or they are the smartest child on the earth. In my honest opinion they are all EQUAL. I love them all.
Please mommabear realize I was just explainin the children I see with autism do not have food allergies. I think that was what this thread was all about.
Take care and I am so sorry if I have bothered anyone because I certainly would never label a child in a negative way.
I have three totally different children. I love them all the same.
I have one with Math dislexia and it is so hard for me. I have one that is on the honor roll all the time and I have one that is a social butterfly. It keeps us all happy.

Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 10:55am
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My PA son is nowhere near the autism spectrum.
My nonPA son has NLD (nonverbal learning disability - basically Aspergers), so the PA/sutism link doesn't work for us. However, my nonPA son does have food sensitivites, but not nuts/peanuts. He has problems with blue #1 dye, annatto, cinnamon, paprika, chocolate, whole grain wheat, and OJ. Now, all of these only give him a problem if he eats too much of them (GI problems).
Claire - I think MommaBear just misread your post about "the only food they eat." I'm sure she'll catch it and make it right with you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 2:40pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Claire:
[b]Mommabear, I guess I am being misunderstood and it is driving me crazy. I am in NO way stereotyping your child. I am saying that he children I am with will only eat PB and are not allergic to it. So therefore that tells me that we can not link food allergies and autism to a definete thing. I am saying that just because a child has autism does not mean they will be allergic to PB.
I am not saying it is a bad thing that I have to go home and change my clothes but that I do have to. Just because the children do eat PB everyday and I don't want to risk a bad thing for Christopher.
I would do this no matter what child I am around eating pb.
What I mean about the families saying that they are glad they don't have to deal with PB is this: The parents often tell me they are glad they don't have my PB problem.
As far as me coming onto this thread and stereotyping a child PLEASE realize you are touching a very soft spot with me.
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claire, you're a doll. You give life to the words: "A soft answer turneth away wrath." I wasn't exactly feeling wrathfull [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] , just at times worn from so many people telling me however that fitting the "autism spectrum" in some way means that one is either defective, must have suffered some damage, or otherwise unable to have a successful (by any standard) or somewhat happy life. KWIM? I just don't necessarily see it that way. It hasn't been my experience either.
thank you for comming back to this, I see it in a different light now. Thank you for your patience with me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I wish I could say the same about myself here.
(sorry this took all day, but I ended up at the hospital with contractions. long story, must sleep..........)

Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 6:02pm
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I wasn't trying to say if a child/adult has autism then they have a peanut allergy.. .but more like - if a child has autism..it seems a lot of siblings have PA. That is the link I mostly find. Six of my friends with kiddos with autism - also have a a child with a PA. To me that is too close for comfort.
Of course I know many other families with children with autism that don't have another child with PA...
Its just like.. what are the chances of 6 people I know having a kid with autism and another with PA. That is just more than a concidence I think.
Andrea

Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2006 - 7:50pm
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Mommabear best wishes to you!

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