Taste of Soynut Butter for a PA child

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Just curious here.

I bought some Soynut Butter and I wanted to make the Soynut Butter cookies listed in the Snacks/Recipes Board. Before my son was diagnosed with PA, he occasionally (GASP!) had a bite of a PB cookie, Reese's PB cup, PB/Jelly sandwich all with the same reaction--an intense dislike for the taste and would spit or drool it out of his mouth (thank God!) So if a PA child has such an intense dislike for the taste of PB, would this be true for the soynut butter since the taste is so similar, or is his taste "sensation" the result of his PA. I read that some PA people get a metallic, awful taste in their mouth if they come in contact with peanut butter.

Any advice?

On Jun 28, 2001

My PA daughter will not touch soy nut butter. I am sure it is too close to the PB that she first reacted to. But my other two will eat it. I have decided for now not to use it since tthey are still yound and it may be too confusing for them.

On Jun 28, 2001

Ryansmom, I had bought the soynut butter after hearing about it here on the site. Well I was so excited about it,and got home and christopher would not even look at it. He is 15 I'm not sure about yours,and he was way to afraid of it. He said"what if it really isn't safe". "how do you know the label isn't wrong". So I ended up throwing it away and understood why the fear.The truth is I would never have purchased this when he was younger because of confussion. My little one kept telling us not to buy the soynut butter because he thought it was peanut butter. I did take a taste of it and it was the most horrible taste I ever tasted. Take care claire

On Jun 28, 2001

Just wanted to say that it's a staple food here. We have always called the SB&J sandwiches "Jam-butter" sandwiches -- and M loves them. I am *very* careful about eating them in public, though -- we especially avoid packing them on the rare occasions when we fly. And I probably won't make the SB cookies until M is old enough to understand that the look-alike version is *not* okay. My only real concern with the stuff is that someone else might see it (away from the jar) and be misled.

We use the creamy kind from Trader Joe's, by the way, and I think the taste is quite passable. My husband disagrees -- but he was a much bigger fan of peanuts/PB than I ever was.

[This message has been edited by M'smom (edited October 25, 2002).]

On Jun 28, 2001

Taran flat out refuses to put the soy-butter anywhere near his mouth. He took one mini taste when we first bought it and that was it for him. At first I didn't like it either (I was the world's biggest PB fan before his diagnosis), and found it left a funny after-taste, but have gotten used to it and quite enjoy it now. non-PA son and I eat it all the time, hubby won't touch the stuff either.

Oh, and Taran refuses to eat the soy cookies either, though Curtis loves them too. I wasn't a fan of PB cookies though, so don't think they are the greatest either, but are very comparable to a PB cookie.

On Jun 28, 2001

I buy the I.M. Healthy soynut butter for my non PA son. I even bought the chocolate flavored. Nick (PA) hates the taste and smell of it. I'm actually grateful to have it because Nick now knows what peanutbutter tastes and smells like!! Kim

On Jun 28, 2001

Jacob (5) absolutely hates the smell and look of Soy Butter. He refuses to try a bite and used to 'fake' a reaction when he was near it.

Aaron (2) who is non-PA loves to eat Soy Butter and jelly sandwiches. He likes it on everything and it is one of the only ways I can guarantee that he will eat something.

Personally, I think it has an awful after-taste and think it sticks to the roof of your mouth. You must have something to help wash it down. But, as previously mentioned, I was also the biggest fan of PB (ate it all the time and on everything) before Jacob's diagnosis.

Let me know how the cookies turn out!!!

On Jun 29, 2001

Thanks everyone for your posts.

I made the cookies yesterday. At first my son smelled the jar and said it smelled good. I made the cookies with chocolate chips and he tried one after they cooled. At first he said he liked it, but after he finished one, he said he'd rather have a VNF chocolate bar. Then a couple minutes later he said he didn't really like them at all. I guess the aftertaste was bothering him. What's funny is his non-PA siblings love them. I think it might be best for him to avoid them since I'm really trying to read his cues. This is a kid who loves any cookie I make, but the taste just didn't do it for him. At least he knows what PB tastes and smells like now from the soybutter so the curiosity factor is now moot. Perhaps it's for the best--he has an idea of what PB tastes like, and has absolutely no desire for it, whatsoever. Perhaps we'll revisit this issue when he's older and people say, "You don't know what you're missing." All he has to do is take a taste of soybutter, and he'll have a good idea of what he's NOT missing!

Oh, I thought they were pretty good as a substitute for PB cookies. A neighbor thought they were absolutely fantastic and said she was going to check out the local health food store for some soynut butter. My husband however, wasn't impressed--not bad, not great. I, myself, don't have a desire to eat anymore, however, I think it's a psychological issue. I never particularly liked peanut butter, and for some reason it's hard for me to eat something that could possibly kill my child. I don't know why I feel this way but I do.

On Jun 29, 2001

This is getting weirder. In my previous post, I said I have a hard time eating something that could possibliy kill my child. The soy butter cookies won't, but it was the fact that the flavor was reminiscent of PB cookies, that I lost any desire to consume them.

On Jul 1, 2001

Hi,

My allergic son is 3 1/2 and doesn't eat the soy butter. I keep it in the house for when I want to have a "fix" since we have banished nuts of all types from our home. I did introduce soy butter to a cleaning lady once, though who has pa, and she LOVED IT. She said it reminded her of being young, since she did not develop pa until adulthood. I think generally it's not a good idea for the kids to have it in public because it can be confusing.

On Jul 1, 2001

It is interesting, isn't it? My sons first anaphylactic reaction was to a PJB sandwich when he was 2. He is now 4.5 and he won't go near JELLY! So I doubt he would touch the soy butter either.

I have not used the soy butter...but he has 2 siblings and that is a good substitute for them.

On Jul 2, 2001

My DD loves the soynut butter! She only tasted PB when she was a year old--she loved it, but of course had a bad allergic reaction. We started soynut butter about two months later, by which time she had forgotten about her reaction, but she still loved the taste. I was concerned about possible confusion for her as she grows up, but I figure that she is going to have to learn to be careful about everything she eats anyway, so she will question a nut butter sandwich even if it looks like something she regularly eats (just as she'll have to question any baked goods, even if they look and smell just like the ones I make at home that are safe).

She's only had one taste of PB since her first reaction--just a few weeks ago she got her hands on some PB crackers that a kid at daycare had brought in. She threw them up immediately and had a fairly serious reaction (hives, shallow breathing, etc.--just short of needing the epipen) but when I gave her the soynut butter a few days later, she had no problem with it.

I've learned to eat the soynut butter. Once I stopped thinking of it as fake PB (which I love) and started thinking of it as its own product, I became more tolerant of it. I buy the Trader Joe's variety and my only complaint is that the crunchy isn't crunchy enough. Also, since hearing all the reports about how soy products can be so beneficial to women, especially during menopause, I'm glad that we started buying it. It sure beats tofu!

Sarah

On Jul 11, 2001

I understand what you are saying about the aftertaste, as some of our friends have mentioned that the creamy and crunchy can be a little different at first. However, we have found that I.M. Healthy also makes a Honey and Honey crunchy line that is much sweeter and doesn't have the same aftertaste "kick." (also, my wife loves the chocolate spread they make, and best of all, it's dairy free as well as peanut free).

We found it at Jungle Jim's in Cincinnati, but the honey kinds should be sold at health food stores. If you have trouble getting it, you can contact I.M. Healthy at their website, [url="http://www.soynutbutterco.com."]www.soynutbutterco.com.[/url] They are super helpful.

On Oct 25, 2002

After getting the sample of the sunbutter in the mail and the whole family falling in love with it (but can't buy it for financial reasons unless someone local starts carrying it- shipping is awful), my dh found the I.M. Healthy soynut butter at a health food store in a big city an hour and a half from here. My question is... I know I've heard that it is supposed to seperate and that you have to stir it... BUT, when I opened the jar last night it was HALF full of oil and I tried for 20 or 30 minutes to stir it to no avail. It was hard as a rock and almost impossible to stir. Is this normal? I never did even taste it because it was soooo hard and oily. My dh and pa son tried it and neither cared for it. Can anyone help? Maybe we just got a bad jar or is there a trick to it?

Thanks! Valerie

On Oct 25, 2002

It must have sat on the shelf for a very long time. It can separate quite a bit and be tough to mix deep down, but I have never had it be like you describe. Maybe if you contact the company and explain how far you travelled to buy it, and that it was so separated mixing was impossible, they might send you a complimentary jar for you to try! Seems like good business to do so. Give them a call. Try asking your local grocer to carry it as well. becca

On Oct 28, 2002

I bought some last night as a result of this thread. It was a kind of strange feeling, I had been unsure of whether to buy it or not. Well, I tried it, and it was okay, but I felt soooooo bad about it, it reminds me too much of PB. The jar looks just like PB so I decided to hide it out of sight of my son. I don't think I would ever eat it in front of him. I feel kinda weird since I ate it, I just ate a half sandwich of it today, last night I tasted it on the spoon. By the way, there's a lump in the bottom I can't get rid of and there is no freshness date on the pkg. That's my experience with Soynut butter, I'm still not sure if I feel good about it. I don't think I miss PB at all, especially since I am scared of it. I'm scared of this stuff too, I dunno.

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