Sub. Teacher...

Posted on: Sun, 01/29/2006 - 10:58pm
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I am so angy and scared this morning!! I really need someone to calm my nerves a little. DD told me that she has a sub because her teacher is out until tomorrow. I walked in this morning and introduced myself and say, "I am sure you already know of Alyssa's peanut allergy..." and the sub shakes her head no and said she was told nothing. I said," then I am sure they didnt train you on how and when to use the EpiPen.." and she said no. So I immediately freaked!! I told her of Alyssa's allergy and to keep her away from anyone eating peanut products at snack time..lunch is taken care of and all." This is the 100th day of school so they are having all kinds of crafts and such in class too. I ran home and called the principal and left a stern message about this situation. I am just really worried today!! It will be a Very Long Day!!

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Helen
Mom to Alyssa (PA, age 5)
Mom to Theodore (age 3)

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 1:49am
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I remember the same thing happening to us last year when DS was in Kindergarten. I had a coronary! At least I only had to last 3 1/2 hours. Has the principal called you back? I might call again, midday, just to make sure your message wasn't lost. Hang in there!

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 2:28am
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Just going crazy! I called the nurse and talked to her about the situation. She informed me that the subs do not have to be EpiPen trained, only all the teachers that are in that grade (dd is in K so all the K teachers have been trained). The nurse then walked to the class and talked to the sub about all she needed to do and watch out for and she looked thru the snacks and found no peanut products. She said that the teacher was supposed to have all the info on dd in her notebook for the subs, but she said there was no info regarding dd in there so she is going to have a talk with the teacher about it. The teacher and I have been butting heads all year...
Anyway, I am still waiting for the principal's call. I will call her after lunch; I plan on dropping by the school at lunch and checking up on dd. Thank you so much for your reply. It helps to know that I am not over-reacting.
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Helen
Mom to Alyssa (PA, age 5)
Mom to Theodore (age 3)

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 2:52am
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I am trying to think past the fact that you have a school nurse. (very lucky)
I do know that we had quite a bit of follow-up to do with the first sub situation. There was also supposed to be info in the folder that the teacher left. She showed me that she left it the next day at school -- but my guess is the sub didn't really read it. Lots of dotting i's and crossing t's after that. But there were other problems with that sub too -- not exclusive to just my DS.
Would say that the day this happened for us, DH and I had a discussion (after I calmed down) about if we would even leave DS at school the next time a sub was there. DH drops him off at school -- and we decided that in the future if there is a sub, and they are clueless & uninformed how things work when he asks, he brings DS back home to me. I understand about the Hundred Day thing though -- it is a big deal at our school too (when I was a kid I don't remember anything like it though).
Chew some gum & put on tennis shoes (makes pacing a bit easier)!

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 3:43am
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It is very scary....and incredibly frustrating. We have asked that the subs be VERBALLY informed of Drew's allergy, but the school refuses. They think that something in the sub folder is good enough. I have had subs tell me that they don't have time to check everything in the sub folder.
The first sub Drew had this year was on a day that pb was served at lunch. He normally stays home on "pb days" but we were willing to try the school's suggestion of him going until lunch time. I walked in to inform Drew's teacher that his anxiety level was quite high, and if it got to be too much that I would pick him up early....but to my suprise, there was a sub. I turned to Drew and told him that he was going home with me. (I couldn't believe that I actually did it! That is so unlike me. I'm usually very passive, wanting to not cause any waves or draw any attention to myself.)
(When I went to the office to tell the secretary WHY Drew was going to be absent - since I knew that we had been seen in the building - I found out it was a planned absence....a teacher's meeting! His teacher and I had exchanged emails earlier that week and she was going to update me throughout the morning on how he was doing....HOW could that be done if she was in a meeting all morning!?!)
I walk Drew into his classroom every day. If there is a sub, we have a chat. If I don't feel comfortable with the situation again, I will take him home again.
Make sure you follow up with the school nurse, principal and teacher. I think if it were me, I would write a letter (non-confrontational) that documents the incident. Something like "This letter is to follow up the phone conversation I had with X on January 30, 2006. As we discussed at that time, the substitute teacher in Ms. Y's classroom on that date was not aware of Alyssa's allergy...." Stick to the facts (problem and possible suggestions) - keep emotions out of it. Just my thoughts.

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 4:54am
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Quote:Originally posted by TeddyAlly:
[b]... She informed me that the subs do not have to be EpiPen trained, only all the teachers that are in that grade (dd is in K so all the K teachers have been trained). [/b]
Hmmmmmm......... I wonder where the "subs do not have to be epi-pen trained" came from.... [i]who decided this.[/i] The nurse? Principal? SD policy?

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 5:06am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] Hmmmmmm......... I wonder where the "subs do not have to be epi-pen trained" came from.... [i]who decided this.[/i] The nurse? Principal? SD policy?
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I was thinking something similiar. You know, isn't a substitute supposed to be comparable in some way. You know, like a "Standard of Care"?

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 5:13am
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Hi Teddy Ally,
I really can't believe the school says the subs do not have to be epi trained! Are they not cpr trained either? Good grief! You are so lucky indeed to have a nurse there...I mean, how hard would it be to have the nurse train them? Anyway, I too felt extremely uncomfy when I dropped off my DD at school one day with a sub to greet us. When I questioned her about DD's TNA, she basically said "ya, ya , ya I know where the epi is." I was nervous for the entire time DD was at preschool that day. And I vowed NEVER to let this woman have charge of my DD again. We will keep DD home when, there is a sub. It is just where I am at right now...
I hope things go well for you and you hear back from the principal....take deep breaths!!!!
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Jill
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DS, 18 mo. EA, MA

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 6:25am
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Thank you all for the support! This situation has just blown my day. The nurse had called me after lunch and let me know what the sub found the paperwork on dd after searching thru the folder. The nurse said it should have been the 1st page in the folder and she is getting with the teacher on it. As for the principal, showed up for a brief 5 mins for lunch (dd didnt want me to stay thru lunch, but I just HAD to check on her) and I realized that today was the principal's birthday and I saw her running around the hall with a group of people. I really, really wanted to stop her and I know I should have, but I didnt want to cause a scene right there in the hall. I am calling her in just a bit because she has yet to return my call. Thank you all again for your support! Thank the Lord school is out for today! I thought many times about pulling dd from school when there is a sub, but you know, I really shouldnt have to hamper her education because people dont want to follow policy and I am going to get with the principal on with EpiPen training..I feel that everyone that is involved with dd's classroom should be trained. Thank you again!
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Helen
Mom to Alyssa (PA, age 5)
Mom to Theodore (age 3)

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 7:27am
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I totally understand, Teddy Ally! I was in a similar situation once last year and then again just last week with my DD!
In our school, there is a "sub" folder that is supposed to be reviewed by each sub prior to substituting for the class. In my DD's case, the sub didn't read it! It clearly states her allergy. During snack, she (the sub!) sat there eating PB crackers. My DD became upset and she came over to her rubbing her back while eating the crackers! My DD quickly told her that she didn't feel well and wanted to go to the nurse. This is something previously arranged by my DD, myself and the nurse. The nurse was furious the sub didn't read the sub folder. My DD would not go back to class because she felt threatened so I took her home.
The next day, I called the school to make sure her teacher would be in as I was not sending her if that sub was still there. Her teacher returned and I went after school to tell her what happened. She was very mad at the sub and said the "sub" folder is in plain view and she should have read it. She told me she had to tell the principal and after that, I never saw that sub around the school. Not something I expected.
This year, my DD has an after school math club. The teacher gives out snacks. My error, but I just figured she would know of her allergy as well because of the sub folder. The first two days, the snacks were safe, so I didn't worry. Last week, my DD called me all upset (again from the nurse's office) and said that she gave out PB crackers and she felt uncomfortable being in the class.
The teacher called me that night to apologize and said she was unaware of her allergy. She felt terrible. Since then, we have worked out snacks for the rest of the year. The nurse has also sent an email to all afterschool teachers to check with her if any of the kids in their classes have any allergies.
Our school takes allergies very seriously. I am so greatful for our school nurse. She is so good at keeping my DD (and all the other kids) really safe! As far as I know, all staff at our school is supposed to be trained with the Epi. If they need her, the nurse comes in an instant.

Posted on: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 8:12am
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It is great to hear that your dd's teacher is very active in keeping your dd safe. My dd's teacher has made me feel like she is burdened and doesnt get paid enough to have to deal with such a thing as a life-threatening pa. She and I have had a few disagreements throughout this year...I cannot wait until this year is over. I will be having it out with the principal tomorrow...as well as the teacher for not having dd's sheet on top as it should have been. School is supposed to be a safe, educational place for kids, I am so very disappointed!! Thank you for sharing your story with me!!
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Helen
Mom to Alyssa (PA, age 5)
Mom to Theodore (age 3)

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