Spent yesterday in ER

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I'm not sure what caused it, I think it was traces of milk in a popsicle. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

So I'm driving all 3 kids home from a playdate, about to jump on a highway full of traffic, and my ds says "my belly hurts". I look in the rear view mirror and something told me not to get on the highway. I do a u-turn, drive the wrong way down a street to get out of there. We pull into the nearest parking lot, and he starts coughing. I'm wondering if he might throw up. I give him some benadryl just in case it's a reaction.

Then the lip. His bottom lip swelled, I give another tsp. benadryl. I know you're all thinking this is an Epipen moment. You're right. I didn't give it, I don't know why.

I have him take a sip of water, it goes down, but he coughs afterwards. I watch his lip, it doesn't get any bigger, his coughing stops.

I already have all 3 kids in the car, and I know the hospital is 10 minutes away. I start driving. Not fun. Looking in the rear view mirror every 2 seconds, looking for the hospital signs.

I didn't want to call an ambulance...I didn't want him to have to go alone in the ambulance, and I hated the idea of waiting for it to get to us in this parking lot and then have to drive to the hospital. I thought driving him would be quicker.

By the time we get in the hospital, he starts to feel better. They check his vitals and then decide we can wait since he seems ok. They told me to let them know right away if something changes. So we sit. and wait. But at least I know he's better, and if things get worse, we're in the right place. When we were seen by the ER doc, he was very knowledgeable, I was impressed by that.

Can you tell I'm still frazzled? This was his worst reaction. Stomach pains. Coughing. Lip Swelling. Change in voice, supposed to equal epipen.

I have to tell you guys though, reading about GI reactions (thanks McCobbre [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img])on here was what kept me from getting on that highway...he's never had GI symptoms with past reactions.

He's fine now. I did have to give more Benadryl last night, but now he's fine.

Please feel free to give me the kick in the pants I need for next time, and thanks for all who post their experiences. Reading about them helped me stay calm. Meg

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On Aug 9, 2007

I'm so sorry! But you listened to your gut. You knew what was happening. You didn't get on that highway. You kept him safe. You did a lot of things right.

((hugs))

Glad he's O.K. now!

edited to add: I honestly don't know what I would have done in that same situation with the other kids in the car. I only have one munchkin, so I never thought about that situation. It's never easy, is it?

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On Aug 9, 2007

No kick in the pants from me! You did a great job keeping your kid safe, and by sharing your "epipen freeze" today, you're helping other families who might be faced with the same situation.

Glad everyone is okay now!

On Aug 9, 2007

No kick in the pants from me either, cause I've done the same things in your situation. I have since learned to use the epi pen and call an ambulence, but you live and learn sometimes [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I have 4 children and I've also had the same thoughts about what to do with the others and wanting to be with him... tough decisions to make when you are under such stress!

On Aug 9, 2007

Ack! What an anxiety provoking experience. And with all three kids, no less.

Glad to hear he's OK. Hope you are too. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Amy

On Aug 11, 2007

Wow, you guys took it easy on me [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] I know I did some things right and some things wrong...I'll learn from what I did wrong.

Thanks for the hugs, they helped. I'm kind of coming out of my nervous funk now...Meg

On Aug 11, 2007

Just read this, I'm so sorry your little one had a reaction. It sounded scary and I would assume looking back, you'd recognize it as an epi moment. So I won't kick you while you're down..I know you're being hard enough on yourself.

So, hugs and I'm glad he is ok!

On Aug 11, 2007

Awww Meg. I'm sorry he had a reaction.

I don't see that you did anything wrong. I do think you would of swiftly switched methods if things would of been worse...or changed quickly.

A few things...you have a baby...and I do think if you would of sent him in an ambulance by himself this little without you that he would of been afraid. Definitely a good idea to talk to him about how EMTs are our friends, and they help us out and an ambulance is a great way to help someone get to the hospital really quickly.

And to think about it...I'm going to tell this to both of my kids simply because if we'd get in an accident they need to know that EMTs aren't to be afraid of, but a safe haven almost. I've taught them about policeman and firemen, but never EMTs.

But I'm glad he's better...and I'd of done exactly what you had done.

Hope your Sunday is a restful one. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

mandi

On Aug 12, 2007

I think you did what you had to do in the circumstances. Yes probably epi pen was needed but you got him to a hospital and did not sit and wait.

As far as sending him in an ambulance alone boy oh boy I'd not send my 22 year old alone in an ambulance much less my little ones. But again you gotta do what you gotta do.

No circumstances ever mirror the perfect one we drum into our heads so we make the best decision and go with it.

When I taught CPR for the Red Cross I used to tell them to NOT take someone in your car to the hospital. I'd say "can you do CPR while you are driving?" But all four or 5 times we have put DS into the car and GONE.

I talked about this in another thread but I'll say it again because I liked it.

When my son had his last cross contamination reaction at home a few weeks ago this was my thinking. He used his epi, benadryl and we thought it over. I decided the hospital was two minutes away at midnight with NO traffic.

By time the EMS would get there and assess DS it was long enough that if we had gone to the ER ourselves it would be 100 times faster. So we went. He had a dose of steroids in him plus three other meds within 5 minutes of arrival.

I still say we took a chance. Accidents, full ERs, no parking, anything could have halted us but not his reaction.

So I say call 911 I always say call 911 but I don't always do it. And I still say you need to call 911. You cannot do CPR while driving, the reaction could be the worst ever, etc etc. Peg

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On Aug 13, 2007

Thanks for the additional replies and support guys.

Mandi, you're totally right. As I watched his lip and listened for coughing, I did have the epi ready to go, knowing the jig was up if the Benadryl didn't work.

He did cough periodically during the car ride, but mostly complained about his belly.

Thanks for weighing in Peg. I appreciate what you're saying. I've decided I've figured out the hardest thing about this allergy for me anyway. It's having to act like a doctor in what could be very crucial moments in your child's life [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] Meg

On Aug 13, 2007

[b] posted by Catherine82 in the following thread[/b]

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[i]Hi, I am a mother of an allergy sufferer (my son, Grey, is 3 1/2) and also a former EMT. I worked in NYC as a medic on an ambulance, so I understand this situation both as a parent and also as a health care provider.

If your child has a severe allergy you should immediately call 911 and make sure than an ambulance takes him to the hospital. Even if you are not with him, the fact that these reactions sometimes get progressively worse every exposure (and he could have cardiovascular complications en route to the hospital) makes it very dangerous to try and transport him yourself.

On an ambulance there is monitoring equipment, epinephrine, a defibrillator, and several types of artificial airway. There is also equipment to ventilate your child if he cannot breathe due to a swollen airway. Many of the signs of distress, especially in children, are very difficult, if not impossible to see if you are not trained and have no equipment.

I am not trying to lecture or be annoying, it's just that as an emt, and as the mother of someone with this type of allergy, I think that it is a very important message.

As far as the trauma of having to ride alone in an ambulance, as a mother, it would kill me to leave my son with strangers. However, if I knew that it could mean the difference between life and death, I would absolutely do it and I would strongly advise everyone else to do so as well.

Good luck with everything, and I'm sorry you had such a scary experience. Even though I am an emt, the first time my son had a reaction I almost had a heart attack

Take care! Catherine [/i]

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