So it begins..........

Posted on: Sun, 02/15/2004 - 11:51pm
domesticgodess's picture
Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

It may have begun and all I can say is it won't go far! The school store which the school has assured me is pn free.Why have a school store? This causes all kinds of problems for everyone but......mine is the PN thing which my son and his friends have insisted is NOT PN/tna free!!!:0I have spoken to the principle about this but now am going to this "store" to see for self.
Friday the big v-day party, anyone see where this might be going?
Yep!! A whole baggie of goodies was sent home with son filled with all sorts of things from chips to homemade cookies. No ingredients and no had eaten any in class.
As I am looking through this bag what do I see? A hershey hugs!
Now I do not get this at all, how hard is it to read? I know that these people can read and would if it were their child! These parents have had their children in this school with my child 4 years now so it's not a new thing. This I am sure is pure laziness and I am going to light the proverbial "fire"
under someone's a**!!!
I am so Mad [img][/img] any thoughts?

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 12:12am
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Anonymous (not verified)

Hershey Hugs don't contain pn/n. They are listed *may contain* with regard to a nut (not sure which one). Does the school try to ban may contains?
At the *store* are they may contains or actual peanuts/nuts?
Why the heck does an elementary school need a store?

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 1:45am
erik's picture
Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

It seems that schools are really focused on food these days... I think some schools may use school stores for fund raising as well...
In my school, we had a school store too - there was no such thing as peanut free back then. With the rise in obesity and the lack of physical activity in children these days, I think schools should focus less on food.
The homemade cookies, etc is scary.. who knows whether they were baked on the same cookie sheet that had been used to make peanut butter cookies? Baked goods are a major danger.
[This message has been edited by erik (edited February 16, 2004).]

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 2:25am
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[b]Why the heck does an elementary school need a store?[/b]
FYI: Our elementary school has a "School Store" that sells school supplies, no candy/food. It is run and staffed by the members of the "student government".

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 2:27am
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Joined: 01/22/1999 - 09:00

Hi Jenna,
You're post suprised me because Hershey Hugs are exactly what I bought my PA son for Valentines Day! He had mentioned a couple days ago that he hoped I had chocolate for him, and I hadn't thought to order any from Vermont Nut Free this year. So I went out looking for safe Hershey. I knew the kisses were safe and the only warning on the Hugs is that they are made in same facility as items containing almonds. Is your son TA as well as PA (mine is not)?
I do know what you mean, though, about the parties. My DS's teacher reminds the class before every party not to bring in anything with peanuts or peanut butter but every party (I'm the homeroom mom) I see at least one baggie and usually more with Reese cups, snicker bars - obvious Peanut items. His teacher is very good about it and when she sees it tells them to put those in their backpacks to take home. The 3 PA kids in the class get to get extras of something else instead so my son never takes anything peanut home. I don't worry about the "may contains", though. He just brings them home to give to his older brother.
I would definitely fight a school store that sold peanut products - that just seems totally unnecessary and a big risk. Good luck with that!
[This message has been edited by SueQ (edited February 16, 2004).]

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 3:24am
domesticgodess's picture
Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

Okay to answer sue's question yes he is both tna and pa but both just as severve but has never had the treenuts so not sure of reaction just know postive testing but do know that reaction to pn is severe!
That said I must also say that my earlier post was more of an "underthought"!
I went on and on bout the store and the v-day
and did not mention the pb sandwiches that have been brought in and not taken out when brought to the attention of the teacher.
That is a clear violation of the no nuts policy period.
With the store I think GailW suggested that we sell school supplies instead, in another rant I started awhile ago and I took that suggestion to the school and it fell flat,not a hot seller I suppose.So at any rate the school sells all kinds of junk crap to these kids and I want on a brain spue to the principle about children's obesity,stealing,cavities and all the other reasons it is not a good idea to have this store.Was assured at the time that is was pn tna safe and free but this is not the case and I know (just have to go confirm it with own eyes)that it is not , my son says it is not and another mother called and told me that her son came home with a crispy crunch
bar(all peanut wrapped in chocolate)!said he didn't eat it at school cuz of his friend but bought it b/c he's not allowed at the regular store on his own.
The thing that bothered me the most about the hershey's hugs is that it is a risk and to put such a risk right into the child who's most at risk's hands? uh-uh,not cool at all. I try not to p*ss on everyone's parade when it is celebration time but at the same time I must keep my child safe!
I just do not want to have to go through this again it's is tiresome and it is also the 4th year at this school why suddenly do I have to start teaching them again?

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 3:39am
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Joined: 10/05/2002 - 09:00

We have a school[b]BOOK [/b] store(run by the PTA), there is [b]NO[/b] food.
Just like Gail W posted (we) sell:
Pencils-- Mechanical Pencils
Higherlighters--- Pencil Grips
Pens-- Book Covers
Folders-- Composition Books
Spiral Notebooks-- Filler Paper
Scissors-- Glue
Crayons-- Markers
Colored Pencils-- Cap Erasers
We also sell School Planners at the first of the year for those that did not buy them allready.
The school is grades 1-5
Jenna does your son have a 504?
What did the principle say?
Hi Gail, I look forward to your comments on Little V's 504 plan (comming soon!)
Love this site
Edited to add ---
[This message has been edited by synthia (edited February 16, 2004).]

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 3:39am
Peg541's picture
Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Every single year that your PA child is under your roof you will have to continually teach others. It never ends.
As long as your child understands that he has to remove himself from a situation where there may be airborne allergens AND understands he may not eat ANYTHING handed to him by someone who is not you.
Unfortunately this is the way it is until things drastically change. I can tell you that my son is 19 and every single year of school, religious school, camp, scouts, anything he has done we have gone thru the litany of his PA over and over again.
We would like him to live, period, so we go through this endless process to make that happen. He has now taken over that role himself but I am always there on the phone or via email to support and encourage him.
And every time he has an issue about his PA at college his email to the appropriate personell is also sent to me so they can see he has his parents behind him every step of the way.

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 3:50am
domesticgodess's picture
Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

504? not knowing what that is but doubt we have that here in canada!!!
WE do have an action plan and it has been in force pretty well until now!
Have not had many problems until this year either with this school anyway.
Luckily for me my son knows and follows the rules and has kept himself safe and spoken up for himself but, when he doaes this and the food is not removed this is where I come in and hair will fly so to speak!
It is time for to once again go into the school and "clean" house and it is a pian and this is more a rant than anything.
While this is not a waste of time since it saves my sons life it is a waste of my time and everyone else's when this should automatically be done daily by the teachers you know?

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 3:55am
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Joined: 10/27/2003 - 09:00

I just had to reply to your reply. I thought it interesting, sad, and scary that this "education" about PA is ongoing and lifelong. Did you ever get tired of fighting? Of course, even if you are you still have to so that your son is safe. Did you ever not win? How did you handle it? What advice do you have?

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 4:02am
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Joined: 10/05/2002 - 09:00

Jenna sorry I looked in your profile and could not tell where you are from that is why I asked.
Good luck with the school and let us know how it goes.
Love this site

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 4:06am
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Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

even thought he question was for peg I have an answer.
I am already exshausted from this and yes I will continue.
I have also "lost" the battle once with the children's camp and son ended up in the I.C.U! Not a battle I intend on losing again that's for sure.
I wrote a letter to my mpp in whick cindy posted for me if you care to read it it it is in the take action topic ontario protect anaphalactic stadents.second page close to the bottom and atm posted it at 5:03 p.m
It is truelly unfortunate that we have to try to get a bill passed for such a simple thing.Adults should follow rules set examples bla,blah,blah!
In a perfect world as they say!

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 4:10am
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Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

oh, I thought it was listed!!! Yes I am in ontario canada. Also wanted to say that I hope I did not offend sue with suggestion that hershey's hugs being sent was laziness.
If they were acceptable treats I wouldn't say that but since for my son's class they are not I said it!! It is laziness on the part of the teacher who was told to watch chocolate specifacally and the other parent who knows my child!
I have volunteered to help with these events but not much good with wild two year old!!!

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 4:28am
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Anonymous (not verified)

Jenna, I totally agree with your line about *it's not a waste of time, but it is a waste of time*. Well stated!
Can't really offer any help, but just know that when you are in that office *discussing* things with the principal, all your *invisible friends* are there with you [img][/img] in spirit, if not in physical form.

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 4:48am
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Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by pgrubbs:
I just had to reply to your reply. I thought it interesting, sad, and scary that this "education" about PA is ongoing and lifelong. Did you ever get tired of fighting? Of course, even if you are you still have to so that your son is safe. Did you ever not win? How did you handle it? What advice do you have?
Hi Paula,
It has to be ongoing unless you totally trust EVERYONE with the life of your child. Unfortunately I cannot get to that place where I am SURE everyone is on the same page as my son.
Yes we came close to not winning with the cafeteria manager at his college. The guy looked right through us and basically did nothing visible to make his cafeteria safer. His push was that DS has to make responsible choices and we of course agree with him and KNOW DS is responsible.
Once the cafeteria guy heard me talk of airborne reactions his eyes glazed over and he stopped listening. It was very obvious.
It was obvious he could not identify with our concern for our son's life. He had never heard of PA before and it IS hard to imagine a peanut could kill!
Once we saw what we had to work with we just doubled our attention to those that we could see would cooperate and DS quadrupled his already spotless checking.
The one common denominator is always DS. He is the one who is making the decision to eat it or not. He is the one checking every room before he enters and missing whole meals if he feels it is not safe to enter the cafeteria (Thai food is very BIG at this school.)
I figured this was my job for so many years and my responsibility to get DS to the place where he could take over and he has.
As boring and miserable it is to continually explain and teach others, it was no match for thinking of life without my son.

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 7:03am
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Joined: 10/27/2003 - 09:00

I can't imagine what my children will be like in 15 years, but I hope dd is as responsible as your son!

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 9:50am
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Joined: 12/29/2002 - 09:00

Thank you, that was a nice thing to say.
My children are the most positive things in my life right now.
I worked very hard to make sure my children would be people I could be proud of. They did most of it themselves anyway but I did lots and lots too.
And having issues like PA just made us all closer because we all worked together to make this work.

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 11:17am
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Joined: 04/23/2000 - 09:00

Sorry Jenna [img][/img] You sound very upset about this as I'm sure I would be as well.
I don't venture into the schools area as much because at this point I'm not dealing with our public school system. However, that will all change this Fall when my oldest (Ethan) starts Kindergarten. I have a meeting with the principal this Thursday to get a feel for what kind of procedures they have already in place.
Ethan has been in preschool for 3 years now. His preschool has been incredibly great with his peanut allergy. They welcomed me to educate them. This year they decided to go completely peanut free! (although parents are still sending a couple of treats that either have peanut butter in them or are may contains).
My focus for the meeting at this time is to get rid of peanut butter sandwiches if they are actually still on the menu and to have his epi-pen either in the classroom or near him at all time.
You have several good responses and I don't have much further to offer. I will be in the schools section much more, though, so I hope to see you around on the board.
Anyway, I hope that everything turns out well. Please keep up posted!
[This message has been edited by e-mom (edited February 16, 2004).]

Posted on: Mon, 02/16/2004 - 11:27am
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Joined: 08/26/2003 - 09:00

Thankfully, we have no cafetria! I don't get that idea anyways? We pack our own lunches and send them with our kids and not until highschool do we have to worry about "outside" food or menus.Except of course the whole celebration thing. In kindergarten we had to supply the snack for the whole class once a month and this angered me to no end for a few reasons but mainly b/c I had to supply the snack but my son couldn't participate on the other days and I still had to send his own seperate snack! I say feed your own kids and I'll feed mine! Yes, I realize it is about learning to share but it is not a full lesson unless it is taught with consideration of others needs in mind like religous or otherwise.
I hope your principle is aggreeable and up to speed on things and I wish the best as you embark on an uphill battle! (Ihope it's just an ant hill!)

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