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Posted on: Tue, 01/07/2003 - 11:59am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Love My C,
FWIW (ooooooo I like that one),
you might be interested in the Asthma/Boiled hot dog post. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I posted it since anaphylaxis sometimes has a tendency to be more likely to occur or more severe in Asthmatics with peanut allergy (at least that is the jist I get from some literature I have read-------I could be wrong)***
***Disclaimer: I am not an expert in PA and am not providing medical advice or information. Just stating what I have read.

Posted on: Tue, 01/07/2003 - 12:10pm
Love my C's picture
Joined: 04/03/2002 - 09:00

Thanks, Mommabear. I read it earlier and even e-mailed it to my husband.
I guess the part about the boy who died from an asthma attack after inhaling the vapors of garbonzo beans being cooked kinda got my attention as my son has shown signs recently of being sensitive to airborne (vaporized) allergens [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 01/07/2003 - 12:18pm
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

LilMan's mom: (sorry about the spelling)
good post. Thanks for not making me post that! (I got my work cut out for me in this thread).
Now, how well do you feel that has worked? (Regulating the right to smoke in public and the campaign against cigarettes) (question directed at all)
Do you feel that it is a fair comparison if you add up the "cost" to healthcare when you look at "smoke related" health problems and sickness as compared to those of peanut allergy in the population? Do you think the morbidity rate is similiar? Would you say that asthmatics suffer as much (or more) from second hand cigarette smoke as Peanut allergic folk do from residual peanut products? Do you think there are serious health problems now or down the road for nonsmokers who regularly breathe in second hand smoke? Should the some of the same restrictions for cigarettes be imposed on peanuts/peanut products. If so, should we impose them for all products that cause anaphylaxis? Just food products? Would it be impossible. How many of you are wondering what I cooked tonight for dinner??? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Lastly (for now): If you did smoke/do smoke/thinking about smoking again, did you/would you/should you change your smoking habits in order to be considerate of the health of someone else you "might" affect?
Whooooooooooooooooo. Carpal tunnel kicking in. I let it be at that. For now. "Chris! Better keep an eye on those servers."
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited January 07, 2003).]

Posted on: Tue, 01/07/2003 - 3:33pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Yes I'm a smoker.
Cindy, You aren't alone... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2003 - 8:29am
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Either you guys are working on a thesis or I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo boring you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2003 - 8:33am
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Joined: 11/14/2001 - 09:00

I just want to say....I like you MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
I have to say I was bored. That is a defect in my personality though [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
ok, your right, how can I be so bored if I'm still reading this thread? Well, I want to know if you ever smoked, and I knew where you were going with the first question you asked.
I'm lazy sometimes and like to read (which is what I'm good at)but nod my head to myself when other's answer something for me [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by smack (edited January 08, 2003).]

Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2003 - 10:43am
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Joined: 07/30/1999 - 09:00

Regarding secondhand smoke. My good friend, age 36, got lung cancer. Never smoked a day in her life. That went into remission. Then she had a brain tumor removed. She's now got internal bleeding, and recently she found out the cancer is in her liver. Her doctors feel she got lung cancer from years of secondhand exposure by her parents. I said that back in the 60's and 70's most of our parents smoked. Remember driving in the car with the windows up while they smoked? She said that her parents smoked more than the average smoker. It was so bad that none of her friends would come over the house. There's no way to prove this, of course, but it's really a shame that this young mother will probably die from this.

Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2003 - 11:36am
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Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

Smack, (and anyone else that wishes to respond [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] )
I mentioned in a previous post in this thread that "I smoked probably less that a carton in my day"........LOL, am I THAT BORING?????? No official start date or quit date. Currently haven't touched one since beginning of this year. I had Shingles in a chest nerve that extended into my face. If lung CA is anything that painful, I don't want to go there. Won't even smoke one a month now. Too creepy. My father smoked heavily when I was a child. The thought of second hand smoke haunts me. He quit 10 years before he died. He died from a ruptured triple A, but they found lung ca (well advanced) in the cat scan. I can honestly say if my father thought he could possibly harm his family with second hand smoke, he would never had touched the things. My husbands aunt had lung ca. She never smoked, but her husband did. Heavily. He died years earlier. I believe it may have been lung ca. I am not sure, and my hubby isn't here to ask at the moment. My son is asthmatic and PA. I can't stand sitting near smoke in public. I detest the thought of a breath of cigarette smoke entering my childrens' pristine lungs. I read through a list of the chemicals that are in cigarette smoke. We give our children nursery water, fear food dyes, preservatives, and don't heat things in "unapproved for microwave use" substances. Yet, despite an intensive anti-smoking campaign, there still seems to be somewhat a culture of smoking out there.
You mentioned boredom. Is it because this is not a topic that affects us greatly? We (some in the PA community) say that people just don't "get it". Could they be just as bored? Do we have to realize that our concerns may just not be a priority with many individuals who are not directly affected by PA?? Do we need to adjust our expectations? Our level of responsiblility? Do we realize how many folk out there deal with health issues on a daily basis that are life threatening as well? That affect their lives on a daily basis as well? That may potentially reduce their quality of life and life expectancy?
Just a question to consider: Would you rather be peanut allergic or a diabetic?
Consider what accomodations some of us are striving for in the PA community. What accomodations are in place for the diabetic?
(In case you are wondering: No, I am not diabetic, nor are my children.)
Again, are we expecting too much? Do other groups with health risks expect the same level of accomodations? I won't go into Asthma yet. Yet.

Posted on: Wed, 01/08/2003 - 11:34pm
becca's picture
Joined: 05/22/2001 - 09:00

Mommabear, now you caught my attention with something I really have thought about! I often feel the members of my dh's family do glaze over and do not care much about being educated about PA. I honestly do not care if anyone(but me) could hold a PhD on the subject, LOL, but I just want no nuts ant gatherings where we are stuck there spending the weekend as well, and dd runs off with older cousins not to be seen for hours. Of course we check on things, but I am often a wreck because food is out, 14+ people in a tight space, and older kids who are not so careful about crumbs, etc...
However, we have almost lost our nephew, the baby of the family(for the moment) to serious heart defects, and truthfully, even I think PA is a minor issue comared to his, which might, at the very least, shorten his life expectancy. He has a genetic syndrome and this is just the known problem of the moment. There could be many more.
Mnay times I ask myself, especially when I see Erik and other adults here, is this really sooo important for others to care about my child? They are healthy adults *living with* PA, and from a time when there was little information. Prhaps less manufactured foods and pervasivieness of the almighty peanut everywhere as well, though! Or, is this for me to bear and be darned sure I teach her everything nobody else would care to know. I do the latter for sure, so I know she will learn to live safely regardless of what others think of her allergy, but also try to be sure she is in safe surroundings but educating those around us. I also feel schools, etc... institutions, should be safe from life-threatening substances wherever possible. There is a limit, but it is simple to restrict smoking or the presence of some foods in a public area where others could be made ill form it.
So, I am coming back round to seeing the smoking connection. It is also interesting to ponder that many things are *known* to make us very ill, even with accidental exposures, or just by nature of the disease. So, where do we fit in with very healthy(well for those of us not dealing with asthma, at least) children, who are thriving and simply need to avoid a food? Hmmmm. The clincher is the potential to be instantly snuffed out of existence from eating this thing that companies will not openly and boldly label, at the very least, better yet, will not remove from some production lines to just have a PN free area and a sterile closed off one where they do the nut things. It can all be done.
The anti smoking campaign has made great strides in getting it out of public buildings. In Boston, near me, they just eliminated smoking form the eateries and bars, I believe. We are pretty far along versus other parts of the country though. A short trip upstate to sh's neck of the woods reminds me of that.
So, I am rambling after getting in a 2:30 am(babysitting for friends flying back from Jamaica, Mon), lying awake listening to dh snore until 4am, and finally taking some benadryl to get a few hours sleep(in the QUIET guestroom)! Very provocative(what you bring up, mommabear, not my exhaustion)! becca
[This message has been edited by becca (edited January 09, 2003).]

Posted on: Thu, 01/09/2003 - 2:09am
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Joined: 11/14/2001 - 09:00

Your not boring, far from it. I should have said that all the questions you asked were a little overwhelming, so I lost a little interest in answering.
That's usually because I like to send short messages, but you asked great questions and if I have some time to write them down then I can think of answering them.


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