Smarties banned in the USA?

Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 8:38am
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Hey all,
Yesterday I went to a shop in Orlando to pick up some Smarties. I usually buy them in Tampa but when I'm in the Orlando area I stop by a shop there that sells them. I couldn't find them on the shelves so I asked the manager and he said that Smarties were no longer being imported to the USA because the red dye used in them is a concern with mad cow disease. Has anyone else encountered this? I am planning on trying the shops here in Tampa next week to see what they say.

btw, this concerns the smarties made in the UK not Canada

[This message has been edited by Scruffy (edited April 16, 2004).]

Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 9:43am
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Scruffy, are you bloody serious? Smarties banned because of mad cow disease in the red dye? You're not!
I do not that I was successfully (IMHO) running a thread where we Canadians were matched with an American friend and sending Smarties "down" but we can't anymore. Stopped being able to in December month.
That information is posted somewhere on the board.
But if your connection is true, wouldn't that mean all red dye products would be banned? Doesn't make sense.
And we've had mad cows in Canada too so why just U.K. Smarties?
I don't think you're being serious. However.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 9:51am
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I wish I was joking...
I don't know maybe the manager had been misinformed. But he did say there was a list of foods, drink, and candies which are banned from being shipped to the states and Smarties were on that list. He told me to keep checking back as they may come off the list.

Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 12:27pm
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Banned specifically because of mad cow?
Only products from the U.K.?
I know the Smarties thread here died because the U.S. is not allowing food to be sent into America. However, food can still be *imported* into America, but I think with much tougher guidelines.
I'll see if I can find the Smarties thread so you can read how it died. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] That *might* explain what's happening with the store you're talking about/dealing with.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 12:29pm
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[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum1/HTML/001004-18.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum1/HTML/001004-18.html[/url]
We are now a threat to your national security. Perhaps that's why. Nothing to do with mad cow though or specifically U.K.
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Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 1:38pm
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thanks for posting that link. sorry i missed that topic before.
i still don't understand how it could be connected to mad cow.
if anything i would think the reason the USA would ban smarties would be because of the red food dye being dangerous for other reasons, such as causing cancer in lab rats. i know other countries are not as strict as the USA is when it comes to regulating food dyes.
but the whole mad cow idea just doesn't make sense. maybe the guy was just making something up because he didn't know the real reason he could not get them.

Posted on: Fri, 04/16/2004 - 9:46pm
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That is interesting. They used to carry Smarties at our Stop n' Shop and I haven't seen them for months. Maybe that explains why they disappeared from shelves. I didn't know that cows had anything to do w/ red dye???

Posted on: Sat, 04/17/2004 - 1:53pm
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Sorry, but I continue to find this whole thing odd. Of all of the countries on the face of the earth, which country is *probably* most likely for developing red dye in the first place and using it in almost everything? Wouldn't that be America?
So why, all of a sudden would America be restricting products with red dye? Sorry, has a "red dye ban" gone into effect in your country whereby any product, not only food, with red dye in it is being removed from the shelves?
C'mon off it, people. Not happening.
I would think that the person at the shop was mis-informed. I do know that it is *supposed* to be a lot more difficult even for a supplier to get food into America now, but not because of mad cow or red dye.
No, unless your nation has dumped all red dye products into either of the oceans (which I wouldn't put past either), I think that's a load of crock.
I know that as a Canadian friend to many Americans, I cannot, myself, send Smarties into your country. That's why the Smarties thread died.
I know that if an America person wants Smarties and wanted to buy them from a Canadian friend, they could not do that.
Oh, and that's another thing. If that is true, why are you still able to purchase Smarties through Panhandle Premium on-line?
The red dye thing is outrageous!
(I also disagree with consumption of red dye, but that's only my own personal opinion).
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Posted on: Sat, 04/17/2004 - 2:57pm
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Here's the link to the thread re Panhandle Premium:-
[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum1/HTML/002242-2.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum1/HTML/002242-2.html[/url]
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Posted on: Sat, 04/17/2004 - 3:36pm
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Smarties are made in Union, NJ & Charleston, SC (among other places) no need to import them.
[url="http://www.smarties.com/"]http://www.smarties.com/[/url]
click on "about us" & read the third paragraph.
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Posted on: Sat, 04/17/2004 - 4:38pm
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ElleMo, great thought, but those Smarties are different than Nestle Smarties. In Canada, we call them Rockets and if you visit the [url="http://www.smarties.com"]www.smarties.com[/url] website, you'll actually find that the candy you know as Smarties in America are made in Canada. Now, of course, as far as I know, they don't have any red dye in them (well, they do have pink coloured ones, so not sure).
No, totally different thing. I think in one of the Sixlets threads (either under Main Discussion or Take Action), erik has posted pictures of both Sixlets and Smarties.
I'll check out [url="http://www.nestle.ca"]www.nestle.ca[/url] and see if they have pictures of the kind of Smarties Scruffy is talking about - they're like M&M's and Sixlets, sorta. And "safe" here in Canada.
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