safe birdseed? projects at school...

Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 5:07am
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Just when food projects were calming down ...received an email from the teacher at dd's school.

They are doing a project and she needs the name of a safe shortening and safe birdseed. She also needs the name of a safe candy heart for Valentine's Day.

Shortening: Crisco is O.K., right? I contacted them, but I think it was a year ago now!

Birdseed: I've read MANY threads on this. (yes I did a search) I understand it's tough to find a safe one, so yes, I'm posting about it again. Sorry. I was hoping that with some of the new people on the boards, maybe someone has an idea. Or maybe someone who has been here a while has recently found a safe birdseed. I don't know.

Candy Hearts: I read Becca's post about Brach's. Are Necco and Wonka's Sweetarts also trusted by any of you? I still have to contact them.

DD is PA and TNA. Thanks for your help, as usual. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 5:51am
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I think there was a post awhile ago that discussed this project...try a search. I think that Cheerios is an option instead of bird food. Crisco and cheerios.
ETA: Sorry didn't see you already did a search. I will try and post links if I can.
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Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:13am
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What about Crisco and oatmeal??? Might work- this link below was the PBS Sprout show making birdfeeders our of butter and oatmeal on pinecones. My husband actually saw it on TV and drew my attention to it- he wondered if it's because of all the PA that they didn't use PB or nuts/seeds.
[url="http://www.sproutonline.com/good_night/crafts01.php"]http://www.sproutonline.com/good_night/crafts01.php[/url]

Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:47am
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I went through this a few months ago. I called every birdseed mfgr I could get the number of from brands at Home Depot, grocery stores and Target. I did not find one that was safe.
Our school used mini bagels, strung a string through the hole, covered them in a flour/water paste mixture (or Crisco could be used) and rolled them in David's sunflower seeds in the shell. Yes, they were salted. But, they could also roll them in Cheerios or Rice Krispies. They can be hung from a branch with the string.
Good luck!
LJ

Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 6:56am
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Okay, I'm brand new here so please bear with me. But I typed "organic bird seed" into Google and came up with a few choices. This one website, birdseedplus.com seems promising. I don't know how to link, so here goes, [url="http://www.birdseedplus.com/item.jhtml?UCIDs=604638%7C1225243&PRID=1143497"]go here[/url] (I'm used to HTML) - I read all the ingrediants. I'm not up to speed on TNA but I believe from what I do know about PA - this mix appears to my eyes safe. Check it out yourself. If the teacher is willing to dish out the extra money (it's $23) for the safe birdseed plus of course S&H - or just NOT do the project.
I tried to call them for you - so as not to post this and get your hopes up for nothing, but all I got was an answering machine. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Here's hoping it works out for you. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 11:28am
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Aunt Amanda----
How sweet! You didn't have to do all that. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Your family is lucky to have you. Thank you.
notnutty--thanks. There were a lot of threads and I did check many of them, but I couldn't find a safe brand. Cheerios is an idea. Maybe she'll go for that.
PennMom--I'll suggest the oatmeal too. Maybe I'll send her that link. Thanks.
lj--thanks for your ideas too. I think I'll give all the ideas to the teacher and let her choose.
Thanks.
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Posted on: Fri, 02/02/2007 - 12:38pm
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LA,
No worries. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] It was fun reading up and trying to find a birdseed that didn't have peanut in it.
Keep us updated for what happens and if a solution is found. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 02/03/2007 - 10:40am
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Just to clarify my post...
It's no that there are no birdseeds out there without peanuts in them.
The problem is the storage issue for agricultural items. A man at one of the birdseed companies explained to me that agricultural/animal feed items are not under the same "guidelines" as food is for human consumption. Therefore, bins filled with peanut birdseed can be emptied out and filled with non-nut birdseed without any cleaning. The chance of peanut/nut dust being in any seed is very high. I would think this is the case even if it is "organic".

Posted on: Sat, 02/03/2007 - 2:53pm
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Quote:Originally posted by AuntAmanda:
[b]LA,
No worries. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] It was fun reading up and trying to find a birdseed that didn't have peanut in it.
Keep us updated for what happens and if a solution is found. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img][/b]
Unfortunately the first birdseed I clicked on at that site has peanuts in it. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] Thanks for trying-I'm going to keep hoping someone comes out with something safe.
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Posted on: Sun, 02/04/2007 - 10:48am
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Yeah, I have yet to find a birdseed that is not possibly cross contaminated. I sent the teacher the link to the show (very helpful) and I also suggested the other food items that people suggested in this link. I think that will do just fine. Thanks for everyone's help and thanks for trying!

Posted on: Sun, 02/11/2007 - 7:25am
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At Christmas I extensively researched birdseed. I spoke with a million people it seems like.
First off, for the project we did sugar cones, green colored crisco and cheerios.
As far as bird seed goes, no processing plants clean their equipment. SO they are all contaminated with nut protein. So, no bird seed is safe with one exception.
The 50 pound bags of Niger seed that come directly from ethipia that you can special order, and get before they are opened. I forget what they called them. It doesn't seem that the brand mattered, because o matter what they come form ethopia that only processed Niger seed. (it is small like thistle). It is pricey, and has to have never been opened.

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