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Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2001 - 7:37am
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Joined: 11/08/2000 - 09:00

pMaybe you guys can help me sort this one out. Saturday night we went out for pizza. Safe as far as nuts and nut oils. We have eaten this pizza many times with no problems. Dale didn't really eat much, just a few bites. By the time we got home, he had quite a few hives, and had started having a croupy type cough. Through the night he was very fussy, and we had to give him quite a few breathing treatments. The next morning (Sunday) he was very fussy, and (except for crying) was very listless. He would not move his neck. Every time I moved him or tried to pick him up, he screamed and pulled at his neck. At this point, I thought that he had possibly slept wrong, and his neck was hurting him. The crying and not moving went on for a few minutes longer and i became increasingly worried, so I called our on call nurse from our clinic. At first, she thought that he should be transported in an ambulance, then decided that it would be quicker for us to just drive him. (at this point I did not think I was dealing with an allergic reaction) So we get to the Er, and the Dr. says that Dale has a very swollen lymph node which is causing his neck and ear to hurt, and he also said that my son had an infected ear. The lymph node was HUGE. He had me feel it, I can't believe I missed it when I was checking him at home. I just didn't believe though that his ear was infected, due to the fact that he has tubes, and we were just in the peds office on Saturday (the same Sat. we had the pizza) and our regular ped said his ears looked great. Our ped office called us on Monday morning and said that they wanted us to bring Dale in to have him checked by the regular ped. Upon exam, Dale's ear was fine, and his lymph gland was still swollen, but not anything like it was in Er. I started at the pizza, and told the doctor everything that had happened. He asked me if Dale sounded hoarse, and yes he did, very hoarse. Anyway, our ped thinks that this could have been an allergic reaction, because of the swelling that came on so suddenly. I am really freaked out that I didn't recognize that it was a reaction. I guess if he would have been having trouble breathing, I would not have hesitated to use epi. When I think back though, possibly the reason he wasn't moving, is because it was easier to breathe if he held still. Our ped set us up for more allergy testing in early March. He is thinking tomato or possibly soybean. (I called to double check with the pizza place, and they say absolutely no nut or nut oils) Has anyone had anythind similar happen? I would appreciate hearing comments. I always thought that I could recognize an allergy attack in my son, I felt that I was pretty educated, but now I am feeling like I am back at square one. Sorry so long, I wanted to be sure I mentioned all the details. Thank you in advance for your advise. Dale is fine now, although his mother is a little paranoid. I am afraid to feed him anything. Help!!!/p

Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2001 - 8:35am
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Joined: 04/12/2002 - 09:00

What an awful experience! I am glad to hear that he is feeling better now. It can be so hard to determine if a reaction is taking place. They can vary so much from time to time and from person to person. Don't beat yourself up. I would never have imagined the swollen lymph node as part of a reaction.
Do you know if he is allergic to shellfish? Is there any possibility that there was shellfish in the sauce? I don't blame you for being nervous about what to feed him. I would just keep things very simple until you have the testing. I know the testing won't come soon enough for you but hang in there.

Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2001 - 12:15pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

How scary for you and Dale. I'm so sorry!!
My first thought is pepperoni. I've read on the boards, and you may want to do a search, that some pepperoni has licorice in it, and licorice is a cross-react with peanuts (legume family). Even if there was no pepperoni on the pizza, it may have been in the sauce.
The tomato, as you mentioned, is also a good possibility. Several others have mentioned this as a problem with their children. My son has no problem with it, though.
Good luck to you, we'll all be right here, as always, with support and well wishes!!

Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2001 - 1:30pm
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dalesmom, first of all, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself for not having recognized what may possibly have been a reaction. It was, from the way you described it, in no way TYPICAL. I'm wondering if that's even an okay way to describe a reaction, but I have seen, with Jesse's 3 reactions, that there is a similarity between them. I would know if Jesse was having a typical reaction for Jesse.
What I was really pleased to hear was that your ped listened to what you had to say and actually heard it to the point where he set up further allergy testing.
Please make sure you're in here telling us about it when the time comes.
I'm glad your little guy is okay now and hope everything works out well when you have him tested. I guess it will only be then that you have an answer.
You did everything that you could. You checked with the pizza place to make sure about nuts/nut oils. There is nothing more that you could have done as far as ensuring the safety of your son's food! No more guilt, okay?
Please let us know what happens because March isn't all that far away! Best wishes! [img][/img]

Posted on: Thu, 02/15/2001 - 3:22pm
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Joined: 12/02/1999 - 09:00

I am so sorry to hear about Dale's rection! I'm glad he's better now, though. His reaction sounds very similar to the anaphylactic reaction Logan (age 4) had to sesame seeds. He had eaten sesame seeds many times before and we were at the mall and I got a safe pretzel with sesame seeds. Logan had 2 bites of it. About 15 minutes later he came to me saying his throat felt funny. He was terribly hoarse and could hardly talk. We immediately headed for the car to drive him to the ER. He became lethargic (a symptom of dropping blood pressure) and was breathing a bit heavily, but it was only noticable because we were looking for it. Once we were at the hospital he broke out in hives and had a very mucousy cough. His nose also started running. The cough and runny nose lasted for about 2 weeks and the next day he developed a low grade fever. Our allergist said this was all from the reaction and when she checked him his glands were swollen, too. She reprimanded me for not using the epi pen (I couldn't bring myself to do it) and told me it was most definitely an anaphylactic reaction.
The next time Logan had an anaphylactic reaction (to pistacios) we immediately used the epi pen. It really helped. He never got super snotty like the first time. Also, the after effects only lasted a couple of days. He was taking an oral steriod and when it was almost time for the next dose the hives would pop back up, but that was all.
I would definitely try to find out what caused the reaction. Get a complete list of ALL the ingredients in the pizza and test for them all if possible.
Good luck and keep us posted on what you find out...

Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2001 - 12:30am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Dalesmom, what about some other type of throat infection? I was recently looking on the internet for information on croup, and found a web site that was a tutorial, likely for medical students, on differential diagnoses of croup and symptoms similar to Dales. I will look for it, but do remember it was from University of Hawaii.

Posted on: Fri, 02/16/2001 - 6:49am
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Joined: 11/08/2000 - 09:00

Thank you everyone for your support! As you all know, life is very stressful when you think you have the allergies figured out, then something crazy like this happens out of the blue. I just hope that we do get some answers with the next batch of testing. I do not want this to be one of those "unexplained" reactions. Cindy, now that you mention it, I will have to say thanks to our ped for taking us seriously. I was so caught up in being upset, I failed to recognize that. (and I feel like generally, the peds don't take us seriously.)

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