Reaction + Hospital Stay

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 7:38am
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My son had a bad reaction today at school to what I believe was a kiss from his sister who was wearing new lip gloss. I can't thisk of what else it could have been it happened soon after he got to school.

He complained to his teacher that his throat felt funny, tight and that his stomach was hurting. The teacher sent him down to the office ALONE GGRRR. They called me at work and mentioned the throat only. He received his asthma meds and I went to get him thinking it was asthma since he's getting over a cold.

Halfway home with him he's talking and I can tell his voice has changed, and he's complaining that his stomach hurts. I contemplated stopping right there but was close to home so we continued. By the time we got home, it was clear he needed an epipen, so I gave it and called 911.

We had a good experience at the hospital this time and we spent about 7 hours there and left with an RX for Decadron and instructions to continue with Benadryl for 24 hours. I never even thought to check the lipgloss when I bought it for dd, never even crossed my mind. Scares the **** out of me to think of how easily things can go wrong so fast. The parting words from the doctor was that I needed to have a stern chat with the school. They should have acted right away. I think I should have insisted with the school, after all I'm the parent. Lesson learned.

katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 7:45am
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Hi Katiee - Sounds like you did a great job to me. It is easy to look at things in retrospect, but given the information you had at the time I think your response makes sense. And next time you'll know to ask about stomach problems.
Did you confirm that the ingredients of the lip gloss included your son's allergen? That is pretty scary - you might want to share the manufacturer information in a separate thread.
Hope your son is doing better, and hang in there. You're doing a great job!

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 7:59am
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Thanks Greenlady,
I appreciate your kind words. The lipgloss came from a store called Lush, I'm not sure but I think there are Lush stores in the US. DS is allergic to peanuts.
The one my dd bought was called Honey Trap.
I'll post the info later on the manufacturers thread. Need to tend to DS now, thanks again.
katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:33am
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I agree. I think you did a great job too. Hope your ds feels better soon.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:03am
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Hope this works.
Yep, the 2nd thing on the list is almond oil. You're post caught my attention because I was looking at a Burt's Bees lip balm that also had almond oil. Yikes! Can't get away from the stuff!
Daisy
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Have a safe evening.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:21am
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katiee, sorry to hear about the reaction. I hope he is okay now. I'm glad you had a good hospital experience though, and hopefully you can get things straightened out with the school.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:32am
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katiee, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere here that you're in Ottawa, too. Having never needed to call 911 for any reason, and knowing what I've read about our services - how was the experience? Have you called before?
Knowing the call is for a child, and PA, did they transport right to CHEO or somewhere else first?
We are about 10 mins from the Queensway-Carleton, and my youngest son was transferred to CHEO from the QC by ambulance once (head trauma caused by golf club). We take the kids to the QC first, figuring they will transport to CHEO if they think necessary. I was pleased enough with the care DS got, but as he wasn't an emergency (at that point) it took a while for the tests.
That incident was scary enough, I can't imagine what it would be like to deal with a situation like so many of you have - severe reaction/anaphylaxis. Hope all is well now.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 8:30pm
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Ok, we had a nasty night and it was because of the blasted drugs, not the reaction. I so hate Decadron! I don't know why but DS is a total mess on that drug, night terrors like you would not believe. he's not like that on all steroids, he's been on Pediapred more times than I can count for asthma and never had this type of reaction.
Now that I'm working full time it's hard to get employers to "get it", I had to rush to get DS yesterday from work and I sure can and will not send him to school today. That will likely go over like a lead balloon. Life was much easier when I was home with the kids.
Yes, we are in Ottawa and quite close to CHEO, both from home and school so I have never had to deal with a second hospital. As for CHEO, this time we had a great experience as I said. From the 911 call right on down. The hospital was extremely busy yesterday and so there was a bit of a wait (on a stretcher in front of the triage station) but once DS threw up, they moved quickly. We dad a not so great experience last time with the ambulance service. The school had not given him his epipen as I had requested and when the ambulance arrived, they stopped the school from administering it. The ambulance attendant told me they only give the epi when they are positive it is anaphylaxis...there was much letter writing on my part and it was never resolved to my satisfaction. That was then, this is now though and overall things went well. The ER nurse expressed dismay that the school did not give him the epipen and strongly suggested that I have a firm discussion with them, and I will.
Thanks again.
Take care,
Katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:10pm
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Hi Katiee
First of all really big ((((hugs))) to you both.
Make sure you send out letters for sure.
Knowing how you are ,I am sure you will. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Hang in there!
If I can help you in any way, you know how to reach me!
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Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:30pm
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Good heavens, Katiee - what a rotten experience for you and your family! I hope he's feeling better today.
I hear you on the Decadron. I have such a love/hate relationship with it - I love the way it immediately gets DS breathing again when he has croup, but hate what it does to him for the next three days. He turns so nasty, and can't seem to control his negative impulses. They should hand out valium for other family members as soon as they administer the Decadron [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] , IMHO.
And your poor DD - she must feel awful.
Please let us know how he's doing.
Amy

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:13pm
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katiee, I'm so sorry to hear about your son's reaction. I was going to ask if he was TNA as well because I couldn't remember but I checked the thread about his recent allergy test results and it would appear that he isn't.
I just checked the Lush website and I can't see anything about peanuts on it - not that that means anything.
If the reaction was to the lip gloss, would that mean that your son has developed a TNA since his fairly recent allergy testing?
Poor wee bug. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
I had almost exactly the same thing happen when Jesse had a reaction at school three years ago - it wasn't recognized as a reaction because he was just coming off a cold as well. So, I have no idea how to make it clear to the school. I do know that at that time, I had to go in and re-write his emergency medical plan with every symptom of anaphylaxis on it, but even in hindsight, I think the school would have made the same mistake. They just did not know. I guess that's the really frightening part.
I'm glad that things went well at the hospital and I hope your son is feeling better.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 12:38am
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I always feel so badly when I hear about anyone having a reaction. It's something that most of us have to deal with at some point or another, so I definately feel for you and your son. Hope everything is back to normal soon.

Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 8:34am
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Glad to hear your son is okay. You may want to give your daughter bonnie bell lip gloss, I used it for years and never had a problem and I don't think they use nut products at all (you can run a search on it, it's been discussed here before).
About the decadron - I react pretty negatively to it too, my doctor once told me psychological side effects are very common with it. I just end up telling doc's I'm intolerant of it rather than bother with the mood swings.

Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 10:19pm
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Thank you everyone for your concern. He is much better today, back to his old self almost I would say. I'm still not positive what the culprit was in this. I thought it might be the lipgloss but I also know it could have been anything. Either way, the lipgloss is gone from the house. I don't want to think it was something in his classroom, way too many variables there for me.
I will meet with the Principal on Monday about the teachers inaction. I'm more than a little stunned by her lack of concern with this. I think she just believes that the whole "peanut allergy" thing is overblown. I had compiled a folder after Sabrina Shannon died, which includes a number of things including the press release issued by CHEO as well a numerour articles written about her tragic death. I guess it's time to pull the teachers head out of the sand, whether she likes it or not. I'm trying to figure out "what" has changed in our school since Sabrina's Law came in to effect on January 1/06 in our school? I don't think much has but I guess I'll reserve judgement on that until I've met with the principal.
Thanks again everyone.
Katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 7:45am
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Hi Katiee - Sounds like you did a great job to me. It is easy to look at things in retrospect, but given the information you had at the time I think your response makes sense. And next time you'll know to ask about stomach problems.
Did you confirm that the ingredients of the lip gloss included your son's allergen? That is pretty scary - you might want to share the manufacturer information in a separate thread.
Hope your son is doing better, and hang in there. You're doing a great job!

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 7:59am
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Thanks Greenlady,
I appreciate your kind words. The lipgloss came from a store called Lush, I'm not sure but I think there are Lush stores in the US. DS is allergic to peanuts.
The one my dd bought was called Honey Trap.
I'll post the info later on the manufacturers thread. Need to tend to DS now, thanks again.
katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:33am
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I agree. I think you did a great job too. Hope your ds feels better soon.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:03am
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[url="http://www.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/flypage.html?mv_arg=2389"]http://www.lush.com/cgi-bin/lushdb/flypage.html?mv_arg=2389[/url]
Hope this works.
Yep, the 2nd thing on the list is almond oil. You're post caught my attention because I was looking at a Burt's Bees lip balm that also had almond oil. Yikes! Can't get away from the stuff!
Daisy
TNA, SFA, EA
Have a safe evening.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:21am
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katiee, sorry to hear about the reaction. I hope he is okay now. I'm glad you had a good hospital experience though, and hopefully you can get things straightened out with the school.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:32am
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katiee, I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere here that you're in Ottawa, too. Having never needed to call 911 for any reason, and knowing what I've read about our services - how was the experience? Have you called before?
Knowing the call is for a child, and PA, did they transport right to CHEO or somewhere else first?
We are about 10 mins from the Queensway-Carleton, and my youngest son was transferred to CHEO from the QC by ambulance once (head trauma caused by golf club). We take the kids to the QC first, figuring they will transport to CHEO if they think necessary. I was pleased enough with the care DS got, but as he wasn't an emergency (at that point) it took a while for the tests.
That incident was scary enough, I can't imagine what it would be like to deal with a situation like so many of you have - severe reaction/anaphylaxis. Hope all is well now.

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 8:30pm
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Ok, we had a nasty night and it was because of the blasted drugs, not the reaction. I so hate Decadron! I don't know why but DS is a total mess on that drug, night terrors like you would not believe. he's not like that on all steroids, he's been on Pediapred more times than I can count for asthma and never had this type of reaction.
Now that I'm working full time it's hard to get employers to "get it", I had to rush to get DS yesterday from work and I sure can and will not send him to school today. That will likely go over like a lead balloon. Life was much easier when I was home with the kids.
Yes, we are in Ottawa and quite close to CHEO, both from home and school so I have never had to deal with a second hospital. As for CHEO, this time we had a great experience as I said. From the 911 call right on down. The hospital was extremely busy yesterday and so there was a bit of a wait (on a stretcher in front of the triage station) but once DS threw up, they moved quickly. We dad a not so great experience last time with the ambulance service. The school had not given him his epipen as I had requested and when the ambulance arrived, they stopped the school from administering it. The ambulance attendant told me they only give the epi when they are positive it is anaphylaxis...there was much letter writing on my part and it was never resolved to my satisfaction. That was then, this is now though and overall things went well. The ER nurse expressed dismay that the school did not give him the epipen and strongly suggested that I have a firm discussion with them, and I will.
Thanks again.
Take care,
Katiee

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:10pm
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Hi Katiee
First of all really big ((((hugs))) to you both.
Make sure you send out letters for sure.
Knowing how you are ,I am sure you will. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Hang in there!
If I can help you in any way, you know how to reach me!
------------------
Love this site
Synthia

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 10:30pm
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Good heavens, Katiee - what a rotten experience for you and your family! I hope he's feeling better today.
I hear you on the Decadron. I have such a love/hate relationship with it - I love the way it immediately gets DS breathing again when he has croup, but hate what it does to him for the next three days. He turns so nasty, and can't seem to control his negative impulses. They should hand out valium for other family members as soon as they administer the Decadron [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] , IMHO.
And your poor DD - she must feel awful.
Please let us know how he's doing.
Amy

Posted on: Thu, 01/26/2006 - 11:13pm
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katiee, I'm so sorry to hear about your son's reaction. I was going to ask if he was TNA as well because I couldn't remember but I checked the thread about his recent allergy test results and it would appear that he isn't.
I just checked the Lush website and I can't see anything about peanuts on it - not that that means anything.
If the reaction was to the lip gloss, would that mean that your son has developed a TNA since his fairly recent allergy testing?
Poor wee bug. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
I had almost exactly the same thing happen when Jesse had a reaction at school three years ago - it wasn't recognized as a reaction because he was just coming off a cold as well. So, I have no idea how to make it clear to the school. I do know that at that time, I had to go in and re-write his emergency medical plan with every symptom of anaphylaxis on it, but even in hindsight, I think the school would have made the same mistake. They just did not know. I guess that's the really frightening part.
I'm glad that things went well at the hospital and I hope your son is feeling better.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
------------------
"That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 12:38am
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I always feel so badly when I hear about anyone having a reaction. It's something that most of us have to deal with at some point or another, so I definately feel for you and your son. Hope everything is back to normal soon.

Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 8:34am
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Glad to hear your son is okay. You may want to give your daughter bonnie bell lip gloss, I used it for years and never had a problem and I don't think they use nut products at all (you can run a search on it, it's been discussed here before).
About the decadron - I react pretty negatively to it too, my doctor once told me psychological side effects are very common with it. I just end up telling doc's I'm intolerant of it rather than bother with the mood swings.

Posted on: Fri, 01/27/2006 - 10:19pm
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Thank you everyone for your concern. He is much better today, back to his old self almost I would say. I'm still not positive what the culprit was in this. I thought it might be the lipgloss but I also know it could have been anything. Either way, the lipgloss is gone from the house. I don't want to think it was something in his classroom, way too many variables there for me.
I will meet with the Principal on Monday about the teachers inaction. I'm more than a little stunned by her lack of concern with this. I think she just believes that the whole "peanut allergy" thing is overblown. I had compiled a folder after Sabrina Shannon died, which includes a number of things including the press release issued by CHEO as well a numerour articles written about her tragic death. I guess it's time to pull the teachers head out of the sand, whether she likes it or not. I'm trying to figure out "what" has changed in our school since Sabrina's Law came in to effect on January 1/06 in our school? I don't think much has but I guess I'll reserve judgement on that until I've met with the principal.
Thanks again everyone.
Katiee

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