? re: contact & inhalation reactions

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 2:09am
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I am just curious how everyone found out they or their child had reactions from touch or inhalation. Was it just from having the reaction or is there some way of knowing without having an actual reaction? My ds has had hives a few times that we never found out the cause, but he has only (thank goodness!) had an ana. reaction from the ingestion of peanuts. Thanks in advance!

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 3:05am
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Mistey, hi, this is a tough one. Usually with a contact reaction you never really know for sure. My ds had his birthday party at a bowling alley. They sell pb cups there and other kids were using his bowling ball. As we were leaving he starting having a reaction. He hadn't eaten anything, so we can only assume there was residue on the table or someones fingers that went into his ball.
A couple days later we went to my moms and she had made p.b. cookies and after a few minutes he started reacting and we got him out immediately. It stopped right away. So again we have to assume he had gotten near residue.
As far as inhalation, most likely you would know someone was eating it near him and you would smell it as well, so if a reaction starts you would know that was it.
Unfortunately though, in most cases you don't know for sure.

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 3:12am
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mistey, I'll echo what momma2boys said, in that you kinda never really know for sure.
Here's what I'm trying to figure out with my son's last reaction, which was anaphylactic. It was due to touching something - residue in either the room where I was running a peanut free breakfast program (the room was used by other people though) or residue in the hall on his way to his "peanut free" classroom.
Okay, so he touched something. Something we had no control over.
But, because he had a virus at the time, he probably touched either his mouth or his nose, and this is where the unclear part comes into play - does this now make his contacting the residue an *ingestion* reaction because the residue ended up entering his body through his nose or his mouth? I don't know. I call it a "contact" reaction still because he didn't physically ingest a peanut product.
It was anaphylactic though. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
As far as airborne, we haven't been in a peanut filled place for several years (when we went to a horrid circus in the previous town we lived in and left at half time because of all of the peanuts around us). My son didn't have a reaction that night, but who knows, four or five years later if he might not now. I don't know.
Hope this helps. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 9:05am
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Welcome Mistey!
My son used to have "mystery" reactions all the time - mostly hives and croup. We could never figure out what it was. It may have been "may contains" (nobody labelled for them back then), contact or airborne reactions. Who knows? His first airborne reaction where we knew the source for sure was on a plane. He was 3 1/2, fast asleep, and after everyone opened their bags of peanuts he started scratching and coughing. He was covered in hives.
After that he seemed to become more sensitive, and had more frequent airborne and contact reactions. Once we figured it all out and avoided situations that would endanger him, they pretty much stopped.
HTH!
Amy

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 9:16am
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Hello Mistey,
I'm new to the sight and have learned so much. I try to keep my ds away from all peanut products, but like many of us know it can be difficult. I had never thought about avoiding the circus before, but now I know not to go.
Many of the restraunts sp? in our area have buckets of peanuts at the table and have peanut product in their store.
We stay away from it all.
Thanks for the advice about the plane, never would have thought about that one unitl I was in that situation.
My son hasn't had an inhalation rxn.
JUJU

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 1:01pm
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There are so many factors that it varies person to person.
I read recently that inhalation has more risk of becoming anaphylactic than contact. Originally, I had thought the opposite.
My dd's two reactions:
Inhaled - At a spring training game last year (before Dxd with PA). She was coughing, sneezing, rubbing her eyes, and her face was blotchy. We just thought it was the heat and left early since she seemed miserable.
Contact - she touched a PB dog treat then touched her face. She had hives on her face, sneezing, rubbing her eyes. Benadryl cleared it up in 30 minutes.
Hope this helps -

Posted on: Mon, 05/03/2004 - 11:05pm
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Unless you see pn residue or pn product, I guess you can't really know for sure.
Ds has had one major contact reaction (besides his 1st experience w/pb), we assume from pn residue somewhere at Chuck E. Cheese.
He's never had an inhalation reaction before, and dh used to eat PB on his waffles with ds in the house before we knew how serious PA was.
We don't think he will react through inhalation (just ingestion and contact), but stay away from situations just in case.
The safest thing is just to assume your child will react in any possible way.
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Trevor age 2 -PA
Harmony age 1 -KNA
It's a BOY!!! due June 24, 2004

Posted on: Tue, 05/04/2004 - 9:04am
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Quote:Originally posted by mistey:
[b]I am just curious how everyone found out they or their child had reactions from touch or inhalation. [/b]
Just FYI, "inhallation" and "contact" challenges are being developed. My daughter has had a "touch challenge" and an "inhallation challenge" conducted by her allergist at a hospital. There's detailed info about both here on the boards. Let me know if you want me to raise them. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 05/04/2004 - 11:39am
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Ju Ju Bean, welcome! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
No, this doesn't mean you can't go to the circus. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I posted (I believe) what happened when we went to the circus with my PA son and there was a GREAT response from members (this was quite some time ago) about how to do the circus "safely". Honestly, it can be done, just like baseball games and other things that may or may not be associated with peanuts.
I hadn't thought about peanuts at all when we went to the circus (don't ask me why, perhaps because the circus I attended in my 20's didn't have peanuts - Circus Archaos - not a *regular* circus). When we were outside there was no sign of the bloody things either. It wasn't until after we got in and seated that they started flogging them. I still swear that it was some strange Mexican circus that appeared in our then one horse town. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]
I'll see if I can find where I posted about it and re-raise it so you can see that you don't have to avoid the circus. Please no.
My PA son is now 8. It's just like last year I posted about him going to the bowling alley and one member, in particular, really freaked out about me even thinking about my son going (he was going with the school). As it turned out, he wasn't able to go because he was sick. But, we did end up going within a month to the same bowling alley for a birthday party and you know what? It was fine.
He has another bowling party scheduled for this month and because it isn't a bowling alley that we've been to (it's through the school he's going), I have asked that I go because it is a more "high risk" situation.
But no, please don't avoid the circus because of what I posted. As I say, a lot of people told me how to do it well and safely the next time. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 05/04/2004 - 11:46am
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Ju Ju Bean, I re-raised the circus thread under Living with PA where there is some *good* advice in there.
Also, I originally posted our family story re the circus under Emotional Roller Coaster which I also re-raised, but here is the link for that one:-
Or not.
My computer has decided to wonk right out on me constantly now and I'm surprised that I've even been able to post as long as I have this evening (half an hour) without it booting me off.
I did have the link copied, but now it won't V itself onto the page.
Anyway, I re-raised circus and Emotional Roller Coaster. They both really old threads, so pardon me, but I thought they did contain some useful information in them re circuses (and other stuff actually). [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 05/04/2004 - 11:43pm
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Gail- I would LOVE you to raise them. Did you worry, though, that it would count as another exposure? Or was it worth it for the peace of mind it gave you? If they test negative for contact or inhalation, will they always test negative or can someone develop that later?

Posted on: Wed, 05/05/2004 - 1:58am
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Hi Mistey! DS has had both contact and inhalation reactions. The contact reactions were hard to figure out because you never know for sure where the residue is. We were only able to guess. His inhalation reaction, however, was obvious. We were on a plane that served peanuts (obviously, we'll never do that again) and as soon as people started opening their bags and the aroma hit the air, he immediately started to react. He threw up and had slight problems with his breathing.
As far as contact reactions go, I really don't think it is easy to figure out unless the PA person actually touches a peanut product and reacts. Residue can be everywhere and we won't know it because we can't see it. It can be very frustrating, but we don't let it prevent us from doing everything. We are very cautious and stay away from places where we know for sure there are lots of peanuts (like some airlines). However, I don't avoid the park (where lots of children who may have just eaten a PB&J sandwich), for example. There are some things that I just leave in the hands of God and pray for the best as I know we can't avoid everything. Hope this helps. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 05/05/2004 - 11:10pm
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Actually, it does help. After the dx of pa of my 2 year old, our initial reaction was to keep him in a bubble. But we know that he has to live life, so we are just trying the best we can to keep him as safe as possible while still enjoying most things that other 2-year-olds would. It can be a difficult balance at times.

Posted on: Wed, 05/12/2004 - 2:08pm
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My son had an airborne reaction when he was approx. 15 months old. We were passing a nut vendor on the street in Boston. Gagging, dry heaving, trouble breathing...cleared up w/o intervention a few minutes after getting away from fumes. Didn't know about the allergy at that time. Definitely some areas in Boston that he will never be able to go...like corner of State St. where Orange and blue line have a stop. And on Washington Mall St. by Filene's, Wendy's, etc. Always have nut vendors around there.

Posted on: Mon, 05/17/2004 - 3:01pm
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I was at work, in the staff room and someone heated Szechwan chicken in the microwave.
IMMEDIATE severe headache, sore throat, heavy chest, dizzy, plugged sinuses and ears.
I didn't know what it was, and then I checked the container and found it had peanuts in it.

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