Question about anaphylaxis

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 8:04am
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My son has experienced an anaphylactic reaction in which there was no exterior swelling (ie: hives). It was extremely confusing at first because I guess I had believed, based on everything I had been tod, that this was always present in an anaphylactic reaction. Not so, as I discovered.

What have been the symptoms that you or your child have experienced during an anaphylactic reaction? Have any of you experienced an anaphylactic reaction without hives?

Here is a link that I also posted elswhere from the Canadian Pediatric Society website regarding anaphylactic reactions in kids.

[url="http://www.medicalpost.com/mpcontent/article.jsp?content=/content/EXTRAC..."]http://www.medicalpost.com/mpcontent/article.jsp?content=/content/EXTRAC...

Thanks!

Katiee

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 8:20am
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Quote:Originally posted by katiee:
[b]What have been the symptoms that you or your child have experienced during an anaphylactic reaction? Have any of you experienced an anaphylactic reaction without hives[/b]
For us, Syd has never had hives during an anaphylactic reaction.
On the occasions that she's had anaphylactic reactions, she experienced the following:
Anaphylactic reaction to cephlosporins: angioedema (swelling of the skin on her lower cheeks, eyelids, blood pressure drop, patches of plate sized swelling on her stomach/trunk), loss of consciousness, but no hives.
Anaphylactic reaction to egg: excessive projectile vomiting, red swollen band around her mouth like a clown, breathing difficulty, but no hives.
Anaphylactic reaction to nut: projectile vomiting, swelling of face, breathing difficulty, but no hives.
The one and only time Syd ever had hives, was recently when she was on flonase - after first and second applications over two days, she got crazy itchy hives across her truck & underarm and back. Once we stopped the meds, the hives disappeared a few hours later.
Warm regards,
[This message has been edited by Syd's Mom (edited March 10, 2003).]

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 8:22am
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My worst reaction did not include hives. My body temperature went very high.

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 9:23am
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My dd tends not to get hives with the anaphylactic reactions also. She gets severe tummy pain, raspy throat, difficulty breathing, swelling of the face (usually lips and cheek on one side of face), and her blood pressure drops rapidly.
When she does get hives, that is usually her only reaction for some reason. A dose of benadryl and they go away.
Laureen

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 10:50am
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Our sons last anaphylactic reaction involved no hives. He started choking and coughing, and turned blueish. I hope we never have to experience anything like that again.

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 11:07am
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Our son never had hives or swelling. Swelling of his airway yes but nothing we could see. His face was red. I imagine if we had not used his epipen it would have progressed to more typical anaphylaxis.
Peg

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 12:37pm
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My son has luckily only had one severe reaction and it was to cashews. Within a few minutes he got hives all over, turned red and his voice was raspy. Luckily we got him to the ER in time and they gave him the right medicine.

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 1:03pm
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Quote:Originally posted by NopeanutsinVA:
[b]My son has luckily only had one severe reaction and it was to cashews. Within a few minutes he got hives all over, turned red and his voice was raspy. Luckily we got him to the ER in time and they gave him the right medicine.[/b]
NopeanutsinVA - I always worry about kids first reactions - especially since alot of us don't know about a potential allergy until a serious reactions occurs.
Was this reaction to cashews how you discovered he had nut allergies or did you know in advance and this was an accidential ingestion?
Hope the doctors gave you a prescription for a few epi-pens to have on hand. Such a scary experience.
Warm regards,

Posted on: Mon, 03/10/2003 - 11:32pm
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So we are not in the minority, my next question is: How do you make an uneducated (re:anaphylaxis) medical professional understand the urgency of your situation if your child does not present with "typically accepted" symptoms?
We were faced with this situation by a triage nurse and I refused to be sent off to wait...we ended up in the ressusitation room several minutes later. Do hospital ER's, specifically as it relates to children, have specific protocols to follow? How do you find out what they are?
Thanks,
Katiee

Posted on: Tue, 03/11/2003 - 12:19am
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Katiee, Jesse has had three anaphylactic reactions now and he has always experienced hives. Although, after the strangeness of his last reaction (the slow progression of it and then it's halting itself), I would not be surprised one day that he would have a reaction without hives. And, the red blotchiness (not swelling) was the third symptom to show up with his last reaction. The hives were the fourth symptom.
I think, for me, I had thought that I had it figured out should Jesse have another reaction and yet this reaction threw us all a curve. Probably a good thing because I realized I'll never really have it figured out - that I can expect the unexpected.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 03/11/2003 - 12:44am
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My PA son never had hives. He did have eczema when we used Tide when he was a baby, but not hives. He did have an extremely bad anaphylactic (as I know it now) reaction to peanuts 2 years ago which was strictly airway/respiratory associated. He has not had an asthma attack of any kind since eliminating peanuts from his diet.
My daughter reacts predominately with localized hives with exposure to products containing peanuts (ie. Banana Boat Baby Boat, Hypoallergenic, caused her entire face to swell with horrific hives), but does not have respiratory problems whatsoever. She does have digestive reactions along with the hives.
The saying, 'Different Strokes for Different Folks' is totally valid here. There is no one set way a person can be defined as 'reacting/allergic' since we are all different and react to all things differently.
When I had an allergic reaction to Prednisone (yes, the steroid, which every one of my doctors in the last 5 years have told me 'it's impossible to be allergic to prednisone.'), I was taking it for a bad case of poison ivy and got horrible, quarter size raised hives all over my body on top of the poison ivy. But, the doctors are STILL to this day reluctant to admit it's possible for me to be allergic to this 'harmless steroid.' It wasn't harmless to ME!
~Melanie

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