Province of Quebec\'s Non-Existent Policy Re Anaphylaxis/Allergies

Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 1:03am
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Within the last month or so, I was quite surprised to learn that the province of British Columbia didn't have a policy re anaphylaxis throughout the province (as Ontario, Alberta, I believe New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island do). In visiting the Ministry of Education website for B.C., I was able to find some pretty generic information about allergies, but not anaphylaxis specifically.

Well, lo and behold, I've found another large province that has NO policy in place re anaphylaxis in schools. I would like to be able to provide website links, but since my search entailed going from the Canadian government website, then to the Province of Quebec website, and still trying to keep it in English since my French is basic, I can't.

What I did was do a search for the Government of Canada. I got the main page and then clicked on the Province of Quebec. Once there, I clicked on the Ministry of Education.

They do have a really *good* website in that it would appear to have a lot of information about education in the province of Quebec, specifically things to do with language and religion. So, you would kinda think, in wading through all of this, you would find something/anything about allergies or anaphylaxis. Not so. Absolutely NOTHING.

I am not surprised that Quebec is not using the Handbook re Anaphylaxis that most other provinces are using. I am simply shocked that their website mentions nothing really about any health concerns (except it does say you can homeschool but doesn't say for what health concerns).

So, add to the list, another province, again large, with NO policy re anaphylaxis in the schools. I do have to say, IMHO, at least B.C. did mention allergies (not that that really helps anyone) whereas Quebec doesn't.

Just to add to my collection of research on the various policies throughout Canadian provinces and for anyone who might be interested. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 6:13am
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One school here told me that I shouldn't worry about the way they handle allergies, since they have so many kids with allergies these days. You know, like the one in that class over there, who's allergic to dust.
SCUSE ME? They're comparing dust allergy with peanut allergy??? Ok, granted the dust allergy could lead to asthma, and asthma can be dangerous, but still... Most people won't have a life threatening asthma attack just because there are dust residue.
In Quebec you can homeschool for whatever reason you have. You do not have to justify it to anyone (except your own parents [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
And yes, I homeschool now.

Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:01am
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darthcleo, only someone with uncontrolled asthma would have a life threatening asthma attack due to dust, as far as I'm concerned.
How would I know? Both my children are asthmatic and although this is terrible to say, my house is absolutely full of dust.
What an absolutely horrible scenario to be dealing with.
We have been discussing this in another thread as well and I'm wondering if I should re-check The Province of Quebec's website to look for their Ministry of Health and also to see if you have something equivalent to our Ontario Human Rights Commission.
I just find the fact that they have NO policy in place very strange, given that it is one of our largest provinces. How is it that Prince Edward Island (or is it because it is the smallest province) is able to have such a wonderful plan in place (even supplying the Epi-pens) for anaphylactic children and yet large provinces such as British Columbia and Quebec have absolutely nothing (or, with B.C. it's basically next-to-nothing). I don't understand.
Now, I just have to figure out all the other provinces in Canada (it's been a long time since I looked at a map and I'm confused by Nunuavet (?) ) and see what I can find out on all of the other provinces that I haven't already checked out. I know that I have checked out Ontario (of course [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/rolleyes.gif[/img] ), British Columbia, Alberta, New Brunswick, P.E.I. and now Quebec.
I just find it really sad. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 10:37am
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Nunavut is our third and newest territory [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
It was created January 2000, or 2001, I'm no longer sure. It is a part of the North West territory which got cut in two, basically.
In Quebec, there's a policy in place as far as daycare is concerned. ALL daycares are not allowed to serve nuts and/or peanuts. May Contains are allowed though. Once the kids reach school, you're on your own.
[This message has been edited by darthcleo (edited March 18, 2003).]

Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 1:06pm
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darthcleo, you raise an interesting point/question there! If all of your daycares in the Province of Quebec are required to be peanut free, where does that type of legislation/law/policy come from? And, extending from that, do any of our other provinces have something that progressive in place in daycare?
I think that would make the situation even more frustrating. Your PA child is safe until they enter the public school system.
But I think it would be really interesting to find out if daycares in other provinces have to follow the same guidelines.
Say for example, Ontario daycares don't have to. Yet, we have a policy re anaphylaxis.
You would think that with a PA policy in place for daycares within a province it would only be a natural extension for it to go further into the public school system. I find this all very odd (sad and interesting also).
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Mon, 03/17/2003 - 11:40pm
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With regards to asthma, dust, triggers, etc.
[url="http://www.lung.ca/asthma/school/control.html#triggers"]http://www.lung.ca/asthma/school/control.html#triggers[/url]
~link to the Canadian Lung Association, web page "Asthma at School"
also of interest:
I also scrolled down to "Special Concern: Food Allergies" where it mentioned
"Remember: A child does not always have to eat the food. Symptoms may occur with just smelling or touching the food."
Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy or content of the link in this post.
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited March 18, 2003).]

Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2003 - 2:45am
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Momma Bear, thanks for posting the link. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Your asthma links would be really good under the Links section, as well. I think I posted a topic called Asthma Links with just the basic stuff - Lung Association, etc. quite some time ago. You do have a lot of information re asthma that would be great to see all in one place, especially for members
who are having difficulty trying to get their children's asthma figured out. I have always said that I found asthma harder to deal with than PA.
This link could be useful to our Quebec members if they had ANYTHING in place at all in their schools, any type of policy AT ALL re allergies, asthma, etc., but they have absolutely nothing. I'm not even sure if their position is worse than being in America where at least PA children are covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act. At least, when met with no policy in place at the school, as U.S. members usually are (I'm assuming, sorry), you can then take the next step of trying to get a 504 Plan in place and referring to the Americans with Disabilities Act.
In Quebec, unless we can find an equivalent of the Ontario Human Rights Commission or something under the Ministry of Health rather than the Ministry of Education, they have absolutely nothing to work with and nothing to back them up.
Again, I am quite shocked by this. It makes me want to sit here for my remaining couple of hours before the kids get home and research the remaining provinces in Canada to see what they have, but I will save it for a later time. I am just stunned that such a large province would have NOTHING. At least British Columbia's Ministry of Education website mentioned allergies, although not anaphylaxis. That is somewhat of a start. Quebec's has NOTHING. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2003 - 5:53am
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The QFAA (Quebec Food Allergy Association) announced plans to launch a new allergen-free food certification process. The report mentioned peanut, milk, and egg.
Foods free of these will bear a special certification label. The association hopes to have these products available as of next March.
**the point**
All this comes on the heels of a new study released today saying that 15 out of every 1000 school children in Montreal is allergic to peanuts. This is a 3-fold increase to other study results.
Will the education ministry pick up on this?

Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2003 - 6:26am
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arachide, do you think it's possible for us to lobby The Ministry of Education en masse to bring this to their attention and perhaps get them to think about having a policy implemented?
Please let me know what you think. As I posted above, I would be quite willing to contact Quebec's Ministry of Education.
The information you just posted might be quite helpful for members in writing them a letter.....
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2003 - 6:46am
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Unfortunately I`ve taken on more than I can handle this semester in terms of work, so things PA wise are going slowly for me.
I will be contacting my local school commissioner (hopefully this week [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] ) to get their feedback about the possibility of pushing our local school board to implement some kind of policy.
I will also be contacting my local chapter of the AAIA to see if anyone local has tried to do what I`m trying.
I prefer to gather all my info before I even consider the possibility of contacting the MEQ. Another sticking point with contacting the MEQ now is the provincial election called for next month. Things are heating up real fast here political-wise.
Cindy, I don`t believe individual provinces` education boards are going to be receptive to queries from people out of province. Why would they? That's not where their electorate are, kwim? I think posting every provinces info here is great, but we're all "stuck" with our own province when it comes to pushing for policy --am I wrong here?
[This message has been edited by arachide (edited March 18, 2003).]

Posted on: Tue, 03/18/2003 - 10:31am
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arachide, no, you're probably correct. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] If this was a federal policy we're talking about then submissions from all provinces would be helpful. If it's an American manufacturer or a Canadian manufacturer, even submissions from other countries can help achieve our goal. But, unless the government actually thinks that the person writing to them to question and address the lack of policy is thinking of moving to that province and may actually become one of their constituents, then I guess you're quite correct.
For me, personally, it is important for me to find out what other provinces are doing PA policy wise. Why, I'm not clear. I have a pretty good policy in place in Ontario which gives my PA son the *right* to a "peanut free" classroom. I guess for me I just like to know what's going on in the rest of the country. I've also had people contact me off-the-board needing help in different provinces which has caused me to research (via telephone, e-mail, and internet) and when I do come across information, I do feel it's important to post here for members who may be from that particular province.
We have a provincial election coming this Spring as well and that's why I'm so unsure as to whether or not Bill 167 (under Take Action) will even get looked at or looked at seriously and even if it does, that particular M.P.P. could very well be out in a few months time and the next one in may not be receptive to the Bill at all.
No, that was a very good point. I think, for me, I was just looking at how we do approach matters federally or with manufacturers re PA and thought the more people who lobbied on Quebec PA people's behalf, the better.
Also, I think it was either in this thread or another where we did discuss working from the ground up, so to speak, before even approaching the Minister of Education and that pretty well sounds as if that's what you're planning to do.
I know in my case, I have to start at school level and proceed upward - way up from there and I anticipate it to be a long difficult process.
I'm glad I was able to post about this though if only for clarification purposes in my own mind. I'm anxious to look at the other provinces that I still have remaining on the list and also up-dating ones that I posted about a couple of years ago that I re-raised to-day.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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