Procreation....

Posted on: Fri, 06/07/2002 - 11:30am
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pNot the physical part.. I like to think I've got that one figured to the best of my immediate abilities.. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p
pI'm wondering how many of you guys have procreated, and did your kids have the allergy to peanuts/nuts etc? I try to ignore it, but everytime the folks bug me for grandkids the question pops into my head../p
pGenetic? Environmental? Or environmentally influenced genetics?/p
pInput?/p

Posted on: Fri, 06/07/2002 - 11:54am
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I've given this one a lot of thought, Stuffguy. The way I figure it, that which is inherited is simply atopy, or the tendency to be allergic, not allergies to specific foods themselves, so a food allergic person may be no more likely to transmit food allergy than would be someone with mild environmental allergies.
Many peanut allergic kids are born to people with no history of food allergy. I know so many people with hayfever or some sort of environmental allergy (they are atopic) that if everyone with atopic genetics were to avoid having children, there would be few people left. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Seriously, though, my sense is that it's just a good idea for an allergic person to choose a partner who has no known allergies in his or her family, if at all possible. That reduces the chances of having atopic/allergic children.
I know several food allergic people, BTW, whose kids only have minor environmental allergies, and no food allergies. I'd be hesitant to have kids with someone who has allergies, as I'd be increasing the odds of a child being allergic to something like 60-70%. It helps to shuffle the genetic cards a little, IMHO. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Oh, and it also helps to follow the guidelines of not eating highly allergenic foods such as peanuts during pregnancy or feeding them to a child before their immune systems can handle it if there is a family history of allergy. That's one of the environmental aspects of this complex issue.
Great question, BTW!
What are your thoughts on the matter?
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Posted on: Sat, 06/08/2002 - 4:52pm
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Well, I've procreated and have 2 PA kids to show for it. I was always told that specific allergies could not be inherited, only the tendency to have allergies could be inherited. I think I've disproved *that* rule LOL! My poor son has all the same allergies I do plus more. My daughter has 2 food allergies (shrimp and peanuts) both of which I'm also allergic to. Within the past couple of years I've heard that now researchers are finding that some allergies like PA can be inherited, they just haven't figured out how or why.
Another reason I'm pretty sure my kids actually inherited the PA was that they tested positive without ever having any peanut exposure. If no exposure = no antibodies, then where did their antibodies come from?
I've always wondered why, if I can pass antibodies for illnesses to my children through my breast milk, isn't it possible for me to also pass my peanut antibodies to them either through breast milk or in utero? Maybe they didn't inherit it from me, but acquired it so to speak.
Rebekah
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Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2002 - 1:58am
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I come from a long line of allergy sufferers.
My grandmother had a peanut allergy but out grew it. Today she is 82 and doesn't suffer from her allergies.
She passed them on to my mother. My mom had environmental allergies and fresh fruit allegies.
I have environmental allergies - dust, animals, mold, etc. No food allergies though.
My son (one out of 3) has the peanut allergy. He has serveral food allergies and also grass.
I understand your worries in passing on your genetics, but if you really want children someday I would not think twice. Children are such a blessing and you wouldn't want to be sorry as you get older that you never had children.
best wishes,
Renee

Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2002 - 6:58am
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Yeah, I know. But again, understanding the risk factors is the only way to minimize them. I don't know if it would be easier or harder for me than a non-allergetic person to have a child with the allergy.. Probably easier since I've lived with it, but again, possibly worse because I've seen so many of the hazards.. *shrug*
I'm more just curious as to whether it was handed down or not. I'm the first one in either side of my family to have a food allergy.. I was kinda hoping it was one of those "bad luck" kinda things...
Thanks for the experiences, eh?

Posted on: Sun, 06/09/2002 - 3:10pm
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IMHO, I think it's easier for me to have PA kids than a non-PA parent. For me, my kids' PA is no big deal. Also, I have an advantage in that I can spot peanuts a mile away and have managed to successfully keep them away from my children. I can even feed them may contain stuff because I can use myself as a highly sensitive peanut detection device. If I wasn't PA and didn't have the life experience as well as the sixth sense about peanuts that I have, the whole PA issue in my kids would be much scarier.
Rebekah

Posted on: Mon, 06/10/2002 - 12:48am
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When you say use yourself as radar for *may contain* do you mean if you eat a particular chocolate bar with no reaction you consider that bar safe? Keep in mind, the one you ate might have been run late in the shift, when there was no peanut protein left, but the one you feed your son/daughter may run earlier, or on a different day.
Regarding having kids, I would suggest the lucky mom-to-be doesn't eat any of daddy's allergens during pregnancy or breast feeding. I think the earlier exposure adds to the risk.
My kids have penicillin, antibiotic and latex allergies, but, fortunately, no food allergies. Even DS born after I developed my allergies has no food allergy.

Posted on: Mon, 06/10/2002 - 8:21am
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Ahh, I know what rebeckah's talking about about the personal barometer. There have been times when I've had to eat things that I was unsure of their ingredients (military rations being one) where it was the old "touch to lip, wait for burning" trick that determined if it was safe to eat or not..
Might seem rather primitive, but as a general rule for me.. If it doesn't burn like I'm sucking back draino, it won't kill me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Knowing what kinda pain it causes, is something that I've found to be an excellent thing to know.
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
(Yeah, I'm mildly masochistic, I guess... *grin* )

Posted on: Mon, 06/10/2002 - 9:22am
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Well, I think it's a comfort zone thing. Not everyone can get away with testing out a food without suffering a serious reaction.
I personally wouldn't test out a 'may contain' food, as my kids would need me to be around and healthy, but I'm not criticising someone whose reactions are less severe and who feels comfortable doing so. There's also the consideration that every exposure increases the risk of more serious reactions the next time. But then, it's a personal choice and everyone has their way of handling it.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/10/2002 - 11:05am
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Who can resist clicking on a thread called 'procreation'....? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Jumping in here with my PA/TNA/asthmatic friend Kim's stats. She's 37 years old with 3 children, 13, 10 and 7 years - none of them have food allergies of any kind, but one is slightly myopic. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Carolyn

Posted on: Mon, 06/10/2002 - 11:25am
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That's good to hear! Three kids and none of them inherited the allergies. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
If I might ask, is their father allergic to anything?

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