PIZZA PLACES

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I'm fuming!! i called three local pizza places a few months back and was assured that none of them had any kind of nut. well the one we tried first wasnt great so i went in two more to get their menus. one listed walnuts in the salad which is a new item. another listed pesto sauce so i called to ask what was in it and they named everything except the pinenuts, so i asked if they were in there and they said OH YEA pine nuts!!! i told them that i was told they dont have nuts and i cant eat their because of peanut allergy and they shouldnt use nuts!! back to the yucky pizza place. ill stick with a cheesesteak or eggplant parm. and just get my son a couple slices. do you all let your kids eat pizza from places where they also have nut things?

On Nov 13, 2005

tidina, is your child TNA as well?

My son is PA only and we do eat at not only pizza places, but say places like McDonald's where tree nuts are on the menu.

Canadian specific.

I am fairly clear that Pizza Pizza (I believe) gave someone here a really *good* answer when they introduced the pesto pizza, if you were PA only, but I can't remember where the post is.

We use Pizza Pizza, Pizza Hut and have also eaten at Domino's.

We never order pizza in - it's always something that we may choose to eat when we're "out and about" and usually McDonald's wins over any pizza place any day and we do eat pizza at home on a regular basis, but it's Kraft frozen pizza. Or McCain.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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On Nov 13, 2005

my son is PA for sure but we also avoid tree nuts. he also prefers mcdonalds though!! i know pizza hut uses peanut oil (my neice works there). i trust dominos and papa johns but prefer the italian style pizza places (since im italian!) i just think there could be pesto sauce on boards, etc. when you make special requests they just seem like they dont want to do it, even asking questions takes forever to get answer from these people so i dont trust them to be careful with nuts around. McDonalds doesnt worry me because the cookies are kinda separate from everything, the m&ms dont touch anything and the walnuts are in packs.

[This message has been edited by tidina (edited November 13, 2005).]

On Nov 13, 2005

tidina, see, in Canada, Pizza Hut doesn't use peanut oil, so we're okay with them.

I wish I knew where that post was about Pizza Pizza being okay, despite the pesto sauce.

We also avoid tree nuts and I do remember posting here about a restaurant we went in to in our previous town where the vegetarian hamburger had walnuts (I believe) in it and how that meant, for me, we weren't able to eat any hamburgers from the place.

The last "slice" we had out was definitely Pizza Pizza. There is a gorgeous Italian restaurant with take-out about a 20 minute walk away from me and we have had pizza slices from there also (well the kids have - their Father and I had the wonderful sandwiches they put together) and I did check to make sure that everything was PA safe, but they didn't have anything in the take-out part of the restaurant with tree nuts and the take-out was made in it's own kitchen.

It's hard, I know. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

As I said, we do eat pizza probably weekly, but it's always the rising crust kind - either McCain or Kraft, both of which I consider well labeled (erik has posted about the new Kraft one out with a peanut warning).

But I did have to check out pizza places, since almost Day 1, once my guy started school 'cus it's a regular thing here anyway, for them to have Pizza Day once a month or more (actually I think they have it this coming Wednesday).

I wanted to post about the Chicago pizzeria Loblaw's President's Choice is using in "deep dish" commercials here to see if it was actually real and to see if it was PA safe. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 14, 2005

so would you eat at these places ive mentioned and just explain the peanut allergy and to be careful? pizza places are always so busy!!!

On Nov 14, 2005

Tidina, where is the Pizza Hut located that your niece works at? Because I've eaten it my whole life and never had a problem, and I'm pretty certain that Pizza Hut is NOT supposed to be using peanut oil...the website doesn't state it and I know chains like to keep their recipes consistant. They should be reported to the corporate headquarters with a note about PA.

On Nov 14, 2005

ive heard that pizza hut and chik fil a both use peanut oil. i believe its a known thing. she works in new jersey.

On Nov 14, 2005

I do know that the Chik-Fil-A or whatevers use peanut oil (I'm not a big chicken fan so it doesn't bother me). I just ran a search on Pizza Hut, and most of the previous posts on here say that Pizza Hut is safe...although some do use peanut oil to spray the pans. But a lot of PA people eat it with no problems, I even had it last night and I'm still alive, didn't die in my sleep [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] I checked on the website and peanut/tree nuts are not listed in the allergen info as being in anything, but they say they may be used in individual restaurants. Maybe you should call your local pizza huts or drop in and see what kind of oils they use, cause it really is one of the better "fast food" places and it'd be nice if your kids could have another fun place to eat out [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Nov 14, 2005

Okay, tidina, to answer your question, you have to remember that my guy is PA only although we do avoid tree nuts.

Here's what I figure when we go into Pizza Pizza or Pizza Hut (I'm not clear that Pizza Hut has any tree nuts in any pizzas here in Canada). What are the chances first of all of my pizza (or my son's) being cross contaminated with a pizza that does have tree nuts in it? Okay, probably a *good* chance.

But then, what are the chances of us getting a piece of pizza cross contaminated with a tree nut slice of pizza wherein the tree nut used in that slice was somehow contaminated with a peanut? KWIM?

To me, that would be pretty extreme. Is there a possibility of it happening? Sure.

There's also a chance that the tomato I bought for their lunch sandwiches was somehow dropped in the bushel basket of peanuts right beside the tomatoes and put back where the tomatoes belong.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

I can only control what I can control.

We used to go to Dairy Queen all the time when we lived in the one horse town. Very rarely did I see anyone eating anything peanut-y. I posted about it here and learned how to safely navigate Dairy Queen.

Then we moved to a small city where it seemed like EVERYONE in the place was eating something peanut-y. We decided, my son included, that no, we didn't need to do Dairy Queen anymore and we never went back.

This summer, "back home", we walked into a Dairy Queen that was absolutely spotless and also empty. I remembered the precautions about getting a plain cone for all of us and my guy got the third one that was made. We also left the premises to eat them.

We then discussed that should we be back in that area again, we would certainly go into that Dairy Queen again but kinda scope it out - see how busy it was, etc. It's one of the places on our "high caution" list and for what I think, *good* reason.

We eat at McDonald's and yes, they do have packaged peanuts for the sundaes. But you know what? I have yet to see anyone eating the peanuts on their sundae when we have been there. I've only even been offered the peanuts once, and that wasn't because I had said anything about PA. It's almost like the McDonald's I've been in, you have to ask for the peanuts if you want them.

Within the last month, we ate at a Quizno's Sub place. I was extremely uncomfortable mostly because I hadn't checked out people's stories here. We did do okay and I did post about it here, but since they do have a peanut butter cookie and they have another cookie with M&M's on it, you know what? We're probably not going to go back. Or, if we do, again it would be a place of "high caution".

So, if Pizza Pizza or Pizza Hut started to serve something on their menu with PEANUTS in it, then I would become concerned.

I know that peanut oil is NOT used by Pizza Hut in Canada (or at least the Pizza Hut's that I have checked - and that would be in three different towns/cities across one Province). Oh, and sorry, another large city that we visited as well.

I understand you posting what you did about your niece, but I need to see something in writing from Pizza Hut. I mean otherwise, it's a comment that has the potential to cause widespread and perhaps unwarranted panic.

But no, from a PA only perspective, I don't feel the need to tell a chain restaurant only serving tree nut products anything about my guy's PA.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 14, 2005

thanks csc. i trust your wisdom. i dont know about pizza hut except that my son ate there when he was one before we knew about allergies. i called the one place that has walnuts in their salad and they put the walnuts on the salad in the back and the pizza is in the front so i think that would be ok!! take care and stay safe!!

On Nov 14, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b] i trust your wisdom. [/b]

tidina, I appreciate you saying that. I really do. Maybe my example of the cross contamination with tree nuts of the pizza slices did help.

But, that's only my "comfort zone" and what works for my family. KWIM?

I think you'll find, if you are able to decipher other people's "comfort zones" from their posts, that mine isn't as "tight" as other people's.

Over the past few months, I have come to see that what you do (as far as calling manufacturers, etc.) works for you and your family, and that's what's important. What works for YOU.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 14, 2005

my husband wants to wait till my son gets his yearly blood work to see what other nuts he is allergic to before we try places that have nuts on the premises. i do like to know companies practices before i use them. i call and email and check up sometimes to be sure that i got right info or that nothings changed.

On Nov 14, 2005

We are in Mich and I have gone in & read the labels at our local Pizza Hut... I was very happy with the service I got & everything checked out ok for me.

we avoid Peanut, nuts & egg

We also buy Little caesars

On Nov 14, 2005

We are in Mich and I have gone in & read the labels at our local Pizza Hut... I was very happy with the service I got & everything checked out ok for me.

we avoid Peanut, nuts & egg

We also buy Little caesars

On Nov 14, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]my husband wants to wait till my son gets his yearly blood work to see what other nuts he is allergic to before we try places that have nuts on the premises. i do like to know companies practices before i use them. i call and email and check up sometimes to be sure that i got right info or that nothings changed. [/b]

Makes total sense to me, especially if you don't know if your son is TNA or not. I know my guy is PA solely (right now, touch wood), so that's why we can feel okay about tree nuts being on the premises - just not eating them, KWIM?

No, I totally understand where you're coming from. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 16, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]ive heard that pizza hut and chik fil a both use peanut oil. i believe its a known thing. she works in new jersey.[/b]

reraising to compliment this thread:

[url="http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002604.html"]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/Forum11/HTML/002604.html[/url]

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]i know pizza hut uses peanut oil (my neice works there). [This message has been edited by tidina (edited November 13, 2005).][/b]

I have personally walked into the back of our local Pizza Hut and looked at the gigantic tub of oil they use. It was fine. My PN/TN allergic son eats Pizza Hut often - no problems.

Jaime [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

On Nov 17, 2005

Okay, the ONE Pizza Hut that tidina's niece works at uses peanut oil. I'm not clear about what it says on the Pizza Hut website in America, but if it is against what is being said on their website, this particular Pizza Hut *should* be reported.

Otherwise, it's quite obvious from various posts, where I assume people have checked to see what type of oil is being used, that Pizza Hut does NOT use peanut oil.

I have checked Pizza Hut's in two major cities and two small towns in Ontario and NONE of them use peanut oil. That *could* be a Canadian thing because we don't use a lot of peanut oil to begin with. I also bet that the Pizza Hut Canada website would back this up.

As I mentioned in the McDonald's thread, Pizza Hut is one of 24 fast food restaurants working closely with Anaphylaxis Canada. Doesn't mean that they won't use any of the allergens, but they will certainly tell you if they are.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 17, 2005

called the pizza hut near me and they make a dessert pizza which has nuts in the topping. they make it in the same oven as the other pizzas!!

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]called the pizza hut near me and they make a dessert pizza which has nuts in the topping. they make it in the same oven as the other pizzas!![/b]

We also have dessert pizzas in Canada and the are nut-free and peanut-free. I have eaten Pizza Hut pizzas my entire life (including their dessert pizzas). In addition to Canada, I also ate Pizza Hut pizzas in Hong Kong as they did not use peanut oil there.

I checked the Pizza Hut USA web site ( [url="http://www.pizzahut.com/menu/allergen.asp"]http://www.pizzahut.com/menu/allergen.asp[/url] ) and it says that the dessert pizzas do not contain nuts or peanuts, so I am not sure why your local Pizza Hut told you they contain nuts?????? (unless youyr local Pizza Hut has their own unique recipe for their dessert pizzas?? weird!)

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On Nov 17, 2005

at the top of web site it states that some pizza huts may use nuts and to check with manager and thats what i did. there are stars next to the peanut/tree nut columns. if you read where the star is that is where the nut statemment comes in. they told me they contain nuts because they DO

[This message has been edited by tidina (edited November 17, 2005).]

On Nov 17, 2005

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Originally posted by tidina: [b]at the top of web site it states that some pizza huts may use nuts and to check with manager and thats what i did. there are stars next to the peanut/tree nut columns. if you read where the star is that is where the nut statemment comes in. they told me they contain nuts because they DO[/b]

but why would the franchise add nuts to the dessert pizza?? it tastes perfect without nuts... and the corporate owned restaurants make the dessert pizza without nuts..

why would an individual Pizza Hut restaurant go through all the effort and expense to add nuts to it?? what's the point.. I don't get it .. so many Americans seem to love nuts/peanuts everywhere [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

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On Nov 18, 2005

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Originally posted by erik: [b] but why would the franchise add nuts to the dessert pizza?? it tastes perfect without nuts... and the corporate owned restaurants make the dessert pizza without nuts..

why would an individual Pizza Hut restaurant go through all the effort and expense to add nuts to it?? what's the point.. I don't get it .. so many Americans seem to love nuts/peanuts everywhere [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]

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Personally? I would love if they added Feta Cheese to pizzas. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

On Nov 18, 2005

i know. nuts nuts nuts. im so sick of nuts. now i did use them all the time before PA diagnosis. i personally love wheat nuts now but my son thinks they smell gross. he smells them and says he needs to drink. pyscho-symatic i guess. anyway, the person at pizza hut (2nd one i talked to, first one on phone didnt know much) said its a mix, i assume its an outsourced product, and nuts are in it somehow, someway???

On Nov 18, 2005

I'd have to double check, but I'm fairly sure one of our franchises has feta cheese on their pizza.

tidina, I do understand what you're saying. I had a couple of incidents along the way where I thought I had checked well and then found out that I hadn't.

1. Our Tim Horton's in one town was "peanut free". When I ordered my son's birthday cake from there every year, I would still say something about PA, but I was ALWAYS told that the cake was "peanut free" because the facility was "peanut free". Well, I only found out, after we moved from that town, that the icing, was "may contain". The forms for the cake and the packages of icing came IN to the store.

2. In posting about buying a birthday cake here years ago, from a grocery store bakery, one member, Fed Up! told me that my questions weren't ALL that they *should* be. That I should actually ask to see the cake form (or mix) and the icing mix from the back of the bakery. She worked in a grocery store and the one she worked in, the forms and/or icing were not PA safe, they were "may contain".

So, despite being assured that cakes were "peanut free" because I had never checked on the forms or the icing in the back, before her advice, I can't say if my guy was eating a "may contain" or not.

I do buy birthday cakes from my local grocery store now. But, I have checked the cake forms and I have checked the icing and I do each time I order a cake. The bakery itself is peanut free. Although it is not tree nut free, I do make sure to mention PA so that hopefully they will take care to make it away from the tree nuts.

Now, the birthday cake *thing* is something a LOT of members here would NOT do. Obviously, I made some mistakes doing it myself. But I'm okay with where we're at right now.

Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

------------------ "That was Polanski. Nicholson got his nose cut."

On Nov 18, 2005

well i think bakeries are way different in canada. theres once acme near me that will order a cake from the nut free facility for me and then put it together first thing in the morning before they use any nuts but i rather just make it myself. too many mystery hives and itchy lips that scare me enough!!! what the heck is it. i cant wait until dec. 1st when hud gets bloodwork for tree nuts, peanuts and sesame seeds!! wish us luck!!

On Nov 18, 2005

I just bake my own, Its easy & I know whats in it.

On Nov 18, 2005

Canada ONLY

This is clipped right off pizza pizza's website:

1. Does your pizza contain peanuts or peanut oil? No. Peanut and/or peanut oil is not used in the manufacture of any of our products. However, some of Pizza Pizza's ingredients are processed in plants of third party suppliers who also process nut products in thesame plants. Although these suppliers practice strict sanitation procedures and preventative measures for cross-contamination, Pizza Pizza cannot guarantee that all of our products are 100% nut-free.

2. Does the pesto sauce contain nuts of any kind? NO. This particular pesto sauce was chosen specifically because it does NOT contain nuts. The ingredients inthe pesto sauce are: Canola and olive oil, basil, parmesan cheese preparation (modified milk ingredients,bacterial culture, microbial enzyme, salt, lipase, cellulose, calcium chloride, sorbic acid, natural flavor), spinach, romano cheese, olive oil, parsley, garlic puree (garlic, canola oil, citric acid), lemon juice (may containsodium bisulphite), whey powder, salt, spices.

This is a comfort zone thing. In spite of the 'No guarantee' part of the answer in #1, my PA girl eats at Pizza Pizza and at Pizza Hut, way too often in fact, and she has never had a problem at either place, and she has had the pizza with pesto sauce, with no problem.

We have avoided the desserts at Pizza Hut, even though their website has a nutritional menu with an entire sheet dedicated to allergen and the only nut showing is Pecans in the Turtle cake. So, in theory DD could eat their dessert pizza, but that's HER choice at this point. The only OTHER "nut" related item in any of their OTHER desserts is "coconut oil"

Again, this is Canada specific and our experience only.

Linda

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On Nov 25, 2005

my neice that works at a pizza hut in new jersey said they also serve dessert pizzas. im not sure if theres has the flavor pack that contains nuts. im not even sure if its obvious that it has nuts on it, could be a may contains?? anyway, she said never get your pizza cut there because they use the same knife all the time for all pizzas and if some have nut contamination it will get on yours.

On Nov 27, 2005

how many people eat at chuck e. cheese? i know they have ice cream machines with nuts (some of them) so its a good idea to wipe off tables and chairs but i had manager read me ingredients and they sounded ok.

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