Pine Nuts??

Posted on: Wed, 04/04/2001 - 9:32am
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pI am PA as well as allergic to Tree Nuts (cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc..) I wanted to know if anyone out there with the same allergies are allergic to Pine Nuts? They are frequently used and hidden in pesto sauces and pastas. /p
pThanks in advance./p
pEric./p

Posted on: Thu, 04/12/2001 - 1:17pm
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Eric, welcome! I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help to you at all, but I thought I'd just put in a reply anyway. My son is only PA. However, because of the risk of cross-contamination pine nuts are something that we would never allow him to have. He is also not allowed to have tree nuts although he is not allergic to them either for the same reason.
Since you really didn't get any response to your question, may I suggest that you post your question again, but title it differently? Is Anyone Allergic to Pine Nuts?
I'm sorry I couldn't have been of more help but maybe if you did raise the question again and more directly you might get some response.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
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Posted on: Fri, 04/13/2001 - 12:12pm
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I just read in the April-May issue of FAAN about a person who was allergic to peanuts and pine nuts.

Posted on: Sun, 04/15/2001 - 10:07am
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I have had PA for decades. Once, I reacted to pine nuts in a salad. At other times, pine nuts have not been a problem. I think the problem is that not all pine nuts are pine nuts; that old contamination thing.

Posted on: Mon, 04/16/2001 - 11:51am
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Hi Dave, my son is allergic to peanuts and tree nuts including pine nuts. It is possible to be tested for pine nut allergy so you could consider the test. They are a problem for us as some pizza places are now using a pesto sauce and of course we are very careful in Italian restaurants. Take care.

Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2001 - 10:14am
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My son is PA and Tree nut allergic. His tests are positive for almost every nut with cashews and pistachios being the worst. Pine nuts ARE considered a tree nut and we avoid them completely as we do all the others. By the way, Pesto sauce usually contains walnuts, almonds or pine nuts or even a combination of them. Watch out!

Posted on: Tue, 04/17/2001 - 10:16am
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Thanks for all your help!!

Posted on: Wed, 04/18/2001 - 4:37am
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Hello!
My name is Marie (I'm Val

Posted on: Sun, 04/22/2001 - 12:04am
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My daughter is also allergic to tree nuts and while she has never eaten pine nuts, the allergist included them in the list of things she should avoid.
They really are nuts from a pine tree / cone, so I guess it does make sense.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 1:16pm
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hiya -
first let me refer you to here so you can see that there aren't many "true nuts" and lots of things get classified as nuts, even though are usually a seed or a pit of a fruit:
[url="http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm"]http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm[/url]
From the last time I did research, pine nuts are a seed of a conifer (pine tree). Nevertheless, people can be allergic to them. There is a "cross-reactivity" between pine nuts and peanuts and pine nuts and almonds. So, if one is allergic to peanuts, they have a higher chance of reacting to pine nuts. But, they also might be fine. Myself, I am severely allergic to peanuts and almonds, so...for all purposes, I consider myself allergic to pine nuts until I can find a rast IGE in my area to tell me otherwise. I have had "hive" reactions on my neck and chest from being around cooking pine nuts.
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 1:19pm
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oh yeah - I'd also like to add that you don't really know you are allergic to something until (1) you've had a reaction or (2) you've tested positive (I won't get into the debate on false positives)
Why not just get the test? My last series of RAST IGE (the blood test) I had about 25 items on it - all tree nuts they could find, all seeds they could find (sesame, sunflower, pumpkin), avocado, mango, peaches, peanuts, and all fish and all shelfish.
Surprisingly, I pulled a Class II on sesame! I've never had a problem with sesame ever. Eat it all the time. But, now I'm more cautious (no more sesame oil, sesame chicken or sesame bagels). If I get a stray sesame seed that's ok, but I'm not doing large quantities anymore. I also found out I'm allergic to mango and avocago (which explains my mystery tummy aches when eating guacamole!)
So - you never know. Why not get tested?
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 9:21pm
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I believe that at this time there is not a test for pine nuts. Our allergist recommended my daughter avoid them.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 10:59pm
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I have had a reaction to a friend who kissed my cheek after she had eaten pine nuts in a pesto sauce. There is very little chamce that the reaction was to something else, and it's something I've always avoided. I'm allergic to a lot of seeds too, so it's possible it's more connected to that than my nut allergy, but my sister (PA only) also avoids them although there has never been a reaction that she thinks came from them - I think the best thing is to be safe rather than sorry.
Take care
Rach

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:25pm
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I think I remember that a TNA customer died after eating a pesto with pine nuts at Bertucci's.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:39pm
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Looking at pine nut packages, I noticed the warnings of "may contains", so doesn't look like eating it is even a possibility. I guess I was thinking it might even be safe for me to eat around my son.
Adrienne -- what do you mean about false positives?? My son had reacted to eating 6 -10 pistachios with a runny nose (maybe more symptoms like noisy breathing, but I was looking for a reaction??), and I brought him to the allergist to confirm he wasn't allergic. What I found via the SPT was that he was, and now here I am.

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 1:06am
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Quote:Originally posted by MarkiesMom:
[b]Adrienne -- what do you mean about false positives?? My son had reacted to eating 6 -10 pistachios with a runny nose (maybe more symptoms like noisy breathing, but I was looking for a reaction??), and I brought him to the allergist to confirm he wasn't allergic. What I found via the SPT was that he was, and now here I am. [/b]
I wasn't very familiar with RAST (blood test) or skin prick tests til I came on this board. Since then I've done some background research and conversations with my allergist. For both skin prick tests and RAST tests there are limitations and the possibility of having false positives and false negatives.
I found some info here:
[url="http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/May04.htm"]http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/May04.htm[/url]
Unfortunately, nothing is "definite" in allergy testing, it's a lot of variables that the allergist uses to determine individual situations and diagnosis.
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 2:37am
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My son's teacher (TNA, not PA) had an anaphylactic reaction to pine nuts. She had also been told that pine nuts should not be an issue. I think it's the cross-reactivity factor...if you are PA/TNA you are more likely to react. Basically, same as the other posters have stated, but I did want to let you know that anaphylaxis can occur.
Lori

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 2:55am
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Quote:Originally posted by Greenlady:
[b]I think I remember that a TNA customer died after eating a pesto with pine nuts at Bertucci's.[/b]
I remember that well - it was in Massachusetts. I grew up and lived in MA til I was 26...it was a very scary news story for me b/c I never really new about "pine nuts" til then. If I recall, she asked the server about "nuts" in the pesto pizza. The server said, "no nuts" no knowing that their pesto was made with pine nuts.
Very scary indeed. But the story did help me out locally in restaurants when I went out to eat --- the servers "got it" for a short while (until the story faded into history).
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 1:16pm
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hiya -
first let me refer you to here so you can see that there aren't many "true nuts" and lots of things get classified as nuts, even though are usually a seed or a pit of a fruit:
[url="http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm"]http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph8.htm[/url]
From the last time I did research, pine nuts are a seed of a conifer (pine tree). Nevertheless, people can be allergic to them. There is a "cross-reactivity" between pine nuts and peanuts and pine nuts and almonds. So, if one is allergic to peanuts, they have a higher chance of reacting to pine nuts. But, they also might be fine. Myself, I am severely allergic to peanuts and almonds, so...for all purposes, I consider myself allergic to pine nuts until I can find a rast IGE in my area to tell me otherwise. I have had "hive" reactions on my neck and chest from being around cooking pine nuts.
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 1:19pm
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oh yeah - I'd also like to add that you don't really know you are allergic to something until (1) you've had a reaction or (2) you've tested positive (I won't get into the debate on false positives)
Why not just get the test? My last series of RAST IGE (the blood test) I had about 25 items on it - all tree nuts they could find, all seeds they could find (sesame, sunflower, pumpkin), avocado, mango, peaches, peanuts, and all fish and all shelfish.
Surprisingly, I pulled a Class II on sesame! I've never had a problem with sesame ever. Eat it all the time. But, now I'm more cautious (no more sesame oil, sesame chicken or sesame bagels). If I get a stray sesame seed that's ok, but I'm not doing large quantities anymore. I also found out I'm allergic to mango and avocago (which explains my mystery tummy aches when eating guacamole!)
So - you never know. Why not get tested?
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 9:21pm
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I believe that at this time there is not a test for pine nuts. Our allergist recommended my daughter avoid them.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 10:59pm
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I have had a reaction to a friend who kissed my cheek after she had eaten pine nuts in a pesto sauce. There is very little chamce that the reaction was to something else, and it's something I've always avoided. I'm allergic to a lot of seeds too, so it's possible it's more connected to that than my nut allergy, but my sister (PA only) also avoids them although there has never been a reaction that she thinks came from them - I think the best thing is to be safe rather than sorry.
Take care
Rach

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:25pm
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I think I remember that a TNA customer died after eating a pesto with pine nuts at Bertucci's.

Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2006 - 11:39pm
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Looking at pine nut packages, I noticed the warnings of "may contains", so doesn't look like eating it is even a possibility. I guess I was thinking it might even be safe for me to eat around my son.
Adrienne -- what do you mean about false positives?? My son had reacted to eating 6 -10 pistachios with a runny nose (maybe more symptoms like noisy breathing, but I was looking for a reaction??), and I brought him to the allergist to confirm he wasn't allergic. What I found via the SPT was that he was, and now here I am.

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Quote:Originally posted by MarkiesMom:
[b]Adrienne -- what do you mean about false positives?? My son had reacted to eating 6 -10 pistachios with a runny nose (maybe more symptoms like noisy breathing, but I was looking for a reaction??), and I brought him to the allergist to confirm he wasn't allergic. What I found via the SPT was that he was, and now here I am. [/b]
I wasn't very familiar with RAST (blood test) or skin prick tests til I came on this board. Since then I've done some background research and conversations with my allergist. For both skin prick tests and RAST tests there are limitations and the possibility of having false positives and false negatives.
I found some info here:
[url="http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/May04.htm"]http://allergyadvisor.com/Educational/May04.htm[/url]
Unfortunately, nothing is "definite" in allergy testing, it's a lot of variables that the allergist uses to determine individual situations and diagnosis.
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 2:37am
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My son's teacher (TNA, not PA) had an anaphylactic reaction to pine nuts. She had also been told that pine nuts should not be an issue. I think it's the cross-reactivity factor...if you are PA/TNA you are more likely to react. Basically, same as the other posters have stated, but I did want to let you know that anaphylaxis can occur.
Lori

Posted on: Wed, 03/01/2006 - 2:55am
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Quote:Originally posted by Greenlady:
[b]I think I remember that a TNA customer died after eating a pesto with pine nuts at Bertucci's.[/b]
I remember that well - it was in Massachusetts. I grew up and lived in MA til I was 26...it was a very scary news story for me b/c I never really new about "pine nuts" til then. If I recall, she asked the server about "nuts" in the pesto pizza. The server said, "no nuts" no knowing that their pesto was made with pine nuts.
Very scary indeed. But the story did help me out locally in restaurants when I went out to eat --- the servers "got it" for a short while (until the story faded into history).
Adrienne
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30-year old survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy

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