Picture of My PA Son Given to Classmates\' Parents

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 10:28am
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Anonymous (not verified)

I just learned this to-day, at the end of the third month of school for this year.

Another parent, in responding to my son's birthday party invitation told me that when she received information about the "peanut free" classroom, she was given the letter outlining the allergy and how her child is not allowed to bring any peanut products into the classroom. This, all parents have to sign to indicate that they understand their child is in a "peanut free" classroom.

She was also given the Safe Snack and Lunch List, which I also know is distributed.

However, she told me that she was also given a photocopied picture of my son. I understand the thinking behind this, that it actually personalizes the allergy, i.e., the parents/children have a child that they can see as simply being another child who has PA.
The only thing is, I was not told that this was being done.

Now, my son's picture is posted in all appropriate areas of the school along with his emergency plan. All of his classmates do know that Jesse is PA and I'm sure that many of them who are friends with him have told their parents that he is PA. No big deal.

My concerns are twofold:-

1. Do you think this should have been done

2. Do you think this should have been done
without my permission and/or knowledge?

Do you think I should speak with Jesse's teacher with this or is it really a "non-issue" at this point in time?

I'm just concerned that I wasn't asked for permission before this was done. I feel I should have been. Any thoughts would be most welcome. Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]


Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 10:38am
NURSIE's picture
Joined: 11/22/2000 - 09:00

This violates your right to confidentiality.
There is a position statement on one of the school nurse websites which talks about violating confidentiality.
I also know as a rule that schools usually get written parental permission before photographing children and/or using a student's photograph for any purpose.
The intention may have been good, but it was wrong not to get a release from you before publishing your child's picture for all to see......

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 11:24am
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Joined: 09/26/2000 - 09:00

I agree with Nursie. I think the school was out of line. In addition, I'm wondering why you didn't receive a notice along with everyone else. I know it pertained to your child, but I still think you should see all the mail that the other parents see.

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 12:23pm
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Joined: 03/27/2001 - 09:00

I agree with the previous 2 posts, this should not have been done without your permission. Should it have been done at all? The only instance I can think of in which it would have been indicated is if the other parents would be in the classroom and would have to identify your son. Like you said, your son's picture is posted in all the appropriate places in the school, for school personnel to identify. A similar situation happened to me last year, but not including a picture. I wrote a letter to all of the parents of my daughter's class, and included her name. Without my knowing it, the school photocopied it and sent it to the other 2 kindergarten classes, since the classes do a lot of things together. The letter was addressed to the parents of kids in my daughter's class and should have been worded differently if given to the other classes. And it included her name. I found out in a similar way that you did. I never did any thing about it, figuring everyone knows anyway, so no big deal. But I think it might be a good idea to say something to the teacher, because you will be having to deal with the teachers of the school for many years to come (is it an elementary school with several grades?) and you should be informed of what they are doing. I guess I am just thinking that you would feel better if it is a partnership where you and the school make the decisions together, as opposed to them doing things without you knowing. I hope this helps.
[This message has been edited by CarolynM (edited November 30, 2000).]

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 12:36pm
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Joined: 04/26/2001 - 09:00

Cindy, I have a fundamental problem with a school giving a picture of any child to anyone without a parent's permission. It is an invasion of your family's privacy. I am sure they did it in order to give your child the maximum protection, but it was not their right to take this step without your permission. I think it a matter of someone at school thinking they had a great idea and acting on it without thinking it through and discussing it with you. Andy

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 2:10pm
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Thank-you everyone for your wonderful, thought provoking responses. I wasn't clear if I was making a big deal out of nothing.
Now, I did sign a release at the beginning of the school year allowing my son's picture to be taken and published in the newspaper (i.e., they take pictures of the kids doing certain activities in certain classrooms and put it in the local newspaper). It did not include anything about releasing his picture to his classmates' parents.
I received a call to-day from a local reporter who wants to follow-up on my [url="http://www.canadianparents.com"]www.canadianparents.com[/url] on-line article with an article for the local newspaper. The woman wanted to know if she could photograph Jesse for the article. Now, I had raised this question in a different thread and received great response.
I told her that I would have to speak with Jesse about it. I discussed it with his Father and we both agreed that it was Jesse's decision, based on the fact that we had to deal with "behavioural problems" for a couple of weeks after he unexpectedly had unwanted attention brought to him when he had to show his MedicAlert bracelet and Epi-pen to his class after they watched videos and read books that I provided his teacher with. However, she had not told me beforehand that she was doing this or having Jesse come up to the front. Had she done this and I had been able to discuss it with him beforehand, I do believe that I would not have had to deal with the problems I dealt with for the next couple of weeks.
At any rate, I discussed the picture taking with Jesse to-day and I explained to him what the article was about and asked him if he would feel comfortable with his picture being in the newspaper and explained the potential ramifications of this (i.e., more people would know he was "the peanut kid" - not my words, and he may get extra attention when the article was published). He was okay with this. I double-checked.
At any rate, I have digressed. Another Mom who called to tell me that her little guy would not be attending the party and why, told me that he son has pointed out mine and said that he's allergic to peanuts. Fine.
I know that each child in his class knows and as I said, if they are friends with him, they have probably told their parents anyway.
My whole point would be, did they require a picture of him. Is it simply an attempt to personalize the allergy so people get it a bit more when it's a nameless, faceless child.
Now, last year, we did send thank-you notes addressed to both his class and the alternate class which did include our name. So, we are not anonymous in this community of 3100. But again, did they need his picture?
From the response I have received from all of you, I think I will contact his teacher. I know that even the thing that happened with him having to show his MedicAlert bracelet and Epi-pen should have been discussed with me first. I know my child very well and I know that he would not deal well with this unless he was asked beforehand. She should have spoken with me first before having him up in front of the class. Jesse loves attention but mostly if he draws it to himself!
I must say that I believe the teacher has really good intentions and there has been much mix-up this year. Last year, I dealt solely with his teacher re PA. He has the same teacher this year. But, at the end of the school year last year, the principal made it VERY clear that she wanted to be in control of this and I have to be in touch with her first re the PA and then she gives the information to Jesse's teacher. I'm really uncomfortable with this because I consider his teacher his caregiver while he is at school and I think the principal has a power issue. I also think his teacher is feeling left out of the loop.
I'll address these things with her. I have one other issue, totally unrelated to PA to discuss with her anyway - birthday party invitations. I had specifically written a letter to the substitute teacher that day that the teacher was supposed to place the invitations of the kids that were invited to Jesse's birthday party in the appropriate knapsacks. That's what his teacher did last year. What did this woman do? She had Jesse hand out the invitations in front of the whole class, including, of course, the children that weren't invited.
Now, Jesse is very often the child that is not invited and he knows the hurt, etc. that go with this as do his Father and I. Everyone knows that left out feeling and that's why I had arranged for the invitations to be placed in the knapsack. One child even said to Jesse, "I didn't want to go to your birthday party anyway". Well, of course, the child would say that, so would Jesse. I was upset about that because I didn't want other kids to feel the way Jesse very often feels and how I felt and his Father felt as a child.
Sorry, I went totally off-topic there, but felt a need to discuss that too, even though it is totally not related to PA.
Thanks everyone for your input and I will speak with his teacher. Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 2:25pm
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Joined: 11/11/1999 - 09:00

The school was way off base sending the photo without your permission. Now I did give permission for the school to send a photo of my daughter home. It was actually an introduction type letter written by Rachel telling about herself. it was attached to the classroom food policy.It worked great for us. Kids on the first day of school were saying I
can or can not sit with Rachel because of their snack. It helped the kids understand a little better. But had they done this without my consent would have been a whole different story. It is a breach of confidentiality.
Who would have been in charge of this decision? I would go straight to that person.

Posted on: Thu, 11/30/2000 - 8:39pm
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Joined: 11/22/2000 - 09:00

You brought up another good point which we as parents, school personnel, and nurses often overlook....and that is....how your child feels about the whole thing. I think we need to keep this in mind whenever asking parents for releases,etc..

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 2:23am
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Joined: 04/19/2000 - 09:00

Cindy, I would have had a fit. I don't trust any person until I meet them. We have a family in our school district with a child that has been molested by an uncle. Anyway this uncle for some reason is still living in our area and the family has forgiven him. Now if this man ever had a picture of my child I would not be responsible for what I would do to him. I kind of reminds me of the comfort zones you talk about. Obviously thiers and mine are totally different. I feel that if they had an open house and maybe you stood up and said"this is Jesse and he is allergic to nuts" that should take care of what he looks like. Sending home a picture is way out of line. Cindy this makes me so mad,and it isn't even my child. Not only for the peanut factor,but the whole entire thing was wrong. Best wishes to you with this one. Claire

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 4:35am
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Joined: 02/22/1999 - 09:00

I think this was definitely a violation of your child's privacy. There is a big difference between sending home a letter saying "There is a child in our class who is allergic to peanuts..." and sending home a name and photo of the child. If they had asked you if you wanted your child to be named or the picture sent out, then that would be your decision. But it should not have been their decision.

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 5:02am
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Joined: 03/08/2000 - 09:00

I can understand why you would be upset about that, but I think it may turn out to serve a good purpose. For those of us who have witnessed an anaphylactic reaction, you know that the person's features become very distorted. If the people who may come in contact with your son have a picture of him, they will be able to tell that something is definitely wrong should he (God forbid) have a reaction. Just a thought!

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 5:22am
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Joined: 04/19/2000 - 09:00

Yankee your so true in your post. The only problem I see is they should have had permission. Good thought on your idea. If we look at it your way then maybe I will not think of how angry I would have been. Thanks Claire

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 5:47am
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

Yep, that was a bit of a faux-pas on the school's part, not asking for permission first.
I realize you are put in a position of not wanting to make waves, because that particular school has become peanut-free (or is it just the peanut-free classroom?) at your request.
I do think you should speak to the school; perhaps someone thought you HAD consented to it, or maybe someone just dropped the ball. In any case, you will probably want to address the issue, so they won't release any other future PA's picture without parental consent.
They shouldn't have done it in the first place, but what's done is done. Preventing it from happening again could be one of the concerns you address, if you speak to the principal.
I would certainly be taken aback, if someone distributed a picture of Cayley without my permission. Don't you hate being put in a position where someone has done you such a tremendous favour that you're afraid to bring up any concerns?!
Please post, if you do decide to speak to the school, and let us know why they did what they did. Misunderstanding? Misplaced assumptions? Arrogance? Let us know!

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 6:17am
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Thank-you everyone for your wonderful, again thought provoking responses. Cayley's Mom, the classroom is "peanut free" which I worked very hard to have implemented last year. This year, the school is attempting to call themselves a "Reduce the Risk" school although they have basically made no progressive changes since last year that I am aware of. Oh, well, I'm official food checker person so that I call fundraising food places to make sure that the food is "safe" etc. I have spoken with another woman in the same school district as us also, in Barrie, whose child is also calling their school a "Reduce the Risk" and yet doing the same as my school. I'm not too pleased with the new labeling of themselves, when I can't see what they have done to "deserve" the label.
Now, as far as Jesse's picture. I do understand how this could be a positive thing, as Rilira and many others pointed out.
I believe it does help people/parents if they can see the actual child - they are able to somewhat personalize this allergy.
However, given my son's nature and simply given my confidentiality (limited as it is here), I do believe that I should have been asked for permission. I should also have been able to speak with Jesse about this before it was done. How do I know how he feels if every kid is now pointing him out to parents and saying "that's the kid that's allergic to peanuts". He does not like unwanted attention drawn to him. I understand that all of our children have to deal with this and learn how to deal with effectively, and sure, at nearly 5 (I have to say 5 on Monday so I'm going to keep saying nearly 5 right 'til that day!), he is going to have to learn how to deal with his allergy. BUT.....
I should have been asked for permission first and I believe this, above anything else, is plain and simple. I think I probably would have asked why they wanted to send Jesse's picture home to parents that would probably never see/meet him, but if they had what I considered a good reason, i.e., it personalized PA, I probably would have given permission just as we are going to do for the newspaper article.
This raises so many issues for me. Is my child seen first as the child with PA and then for himself? Or, because he is such a social, outgoing, likeable little guy does that override the allergy anyway? I know that I will sort it out - you know how? By coming in here and posting and receiving, as always great support, concern, caring and encouragement! Thank-you all so much. Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 3:08pm
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Last night, when I learned the information from the one parent I spoke with, what do I do? I come in here and post immediately without finding out any other information.
Perhaps you know what I'm like, and the minute I have a PA problem, or what I consider a problem or question or vent or whatever, I'm in here right away.
Well, I deserve some very negative posts after what I found out to-day from my son's teacher. I would like to apologize to all of you who so kindly took of your time to post your support and concern.
I called Jesse's teacher to follow-up on this. I asked her if all of Jesse's classmates' parents had received his photocopied picture when they received the consent letter and the safe snack and lunch list. I explained that I had been told by a parent last night responding to his birthday party invitation, that she had received his picture.
She asked me who the parent was and I told her. The woman had to have her child brought into our town to school because the school in her town is full. They were brought in in the middle of the class session. When Jesse's teacher gave her the PA information, she wanted to stress this foremost out of any of the information the woman may require about the class. She inadvertently included one of the many photocopies of Jesse's picture she has in her special Jesse file (for substitute teachers, etc.). So, one woman did receive Jesse's picture and by mistake.
I feel so badly that I came in here and blasted off and received such tremendous response when I really needed it, only to find out that I'm wrong. If it makes anyone who posted feel any better, at least I'm in here now admitting that I did make a REALLY big mistake here. I am so sorry.
At any rate, his teacher and I then had a discussion about pictures of children, etc. and she said that she does not believe in handing pictures of children out and that she is not even allowed to give out a class list (which doesn't even include last names) because of the confidentiality issue.
This woman really cares about my son and because she was so trying to stress the PA and in the middle of the class, she inadvertently grabbed Jesse's picture. Obviously, that is a mistake easily made when one has a specific file on a child with different paperwork in it, and man, so many kudos to her for this. I'm the bloody idiot for simply assuming that she would do otherwise.
Now, I can sorta explained why this even happened, in my mind. It was because of how she had Jesse show his MedicAlert bracelet and Epi-pen without my knowledge and the repercussions I had to deal with afterwards behaviour-wise with Jesse. It's almost as though, not that I'm expecting her to do something wrong, but something has happened with her this year that has made me feel uncomfortable and so I simply took it as another thing that had happened again this year that made me feel uncomfortable. Do you know what I mean?
I also discussed with her the incident about the MedicAlert bracelet and Epi-pen and asked her if she could please discuss anything like this again with me before it happens and I explained why.
Is it okay, for those of you who aren't totally p-o-ed with me about this, if I continue further to explain the situation with his school this year?
Jesse has the same teacher this year as he did last year. Last year his teacher and I worked very closely together re his PA. She was absolutely wonderful, often learning information about it before I did. I only worked with her re the PA because I felt and still do that she is Jesse's caregiver at the school and that in all likelihood it will be her that has to administer the Epi-pen should he have a reaction. I have felt totally safe with him going on field trips, etc. because of the relationship his teacher and I had last year.
However, at the end of the school year, I was called into the principal's office (and I mean called in, I felt like a school child but fortunately did not behave like one) and basically told that the principal wanted to be the person in charge of the PA at the school and that she would desiminate (?) all information re PA to whoever needed it, including Jesse's teacher. I had asked for Jesse's teacher to be included in this meeting because I felt that she was an integral part of any discussion re my son and re PA but she was not included. She was also reprimanded by the principal for having had the control that she did.
This has made for a very awkward situation for Jesse's teacher and I. I had to agree with the principal and allow her to "control" the information, etc. because basically this woman is the woman who is capable of ensuring my son's safety in classes outside of his own (which I'm not clear that she does anyway - however). I didn't want to tick her off.
So, I agreed that information would go through her. Well now, Jesse's teacher receives the information that she should, I feel, rightfully receive first-hand, from the principal. The other day, I had three different things re PA to send into the school - a FAN newsletter for their library,
Jesse's MedicAlert wallet card, and The Toronto Star article re PA. All of these I would normally have given to Jesse's teacher and asked her to copy them for herself, for her information, and then whoever she felt required it. This is not a stupid woman. She would not keep the information to herself. however, I had to send the information in, in Jesse's knapsack, but enveloped to the principal. I had to very clearly word in my letter that I wanted copies made for all she felt appropriate but I also said, please include Mrs. So and So.
The teacher doesn't want to broach this situation with the principal because it's her boss and she already took a lot of heat at the end of the last school year because of how her and I were dealing with it.
I told her tonight that I was VERY uncomfortable with the current arrangement and that I much preferred our arrangement from last year. She agreed, but can do nothing about it.
Then, we discussed how the school is calling themselves "Reduce the Risk" this year when, in fact, they haven't done anything different this year except include a sheet on anaphylaxis in their new-this-year parent handbook. I don't see any indication that this school is a Reduce the Risk school and I'm actually quite offended that the school is labeling itself as such. I have been in contact with another PA Mom who is in the same school district who is having the same problem with her child's school. How can you label yourself that and then not do anything to actually implement it?
Jesse's teacher said that she had attempted, on many occasions, to address this particular issue, but also to no avail.
Okay, if anyone made it this far, and feels that they would not be wasting their time, do you think I should address my current concerns with the principal?
I will also, at a different time, start a thread on schools that call themselves "Reduce the Risk".
Again, I apologize profusely for posting so hastily. In hindsight (isn't that always lovely?), I should have posted after I spoke with his teacher, and actually I wouldn't have posted my original concern at all.
Many thanks and apologies. Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 9:44pm
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Hi Cindy,
Just consider your initial post and the responses you received as a "dry run through" with talking to Jesse's teacher. Even though things didn't turn out as badly as they seemed, you were able to get your frustations out on the board, got great support and in my opinion this put you in a better frame of mind when you actually did speak to the teacher. Also, I think this whole misunderstanding also worked out in your favor because while speaking to Jesse's teacher, you also raised up other issue's that were bothering you regarding how the Principal is more involved this year than last year and how uncomfortable you are about that. I feel this incident opened the lines of communication up for you and the teacher.
To answer your question regarding should you voice your concerns to the Principal, I say absolutely. This is your child who is in their protective care during the day. You have every right, as a parent, to voice your concerns and have Jesse's teacher involved in the meeting. In my opinion, Jesse's teacher is the one who needs the control in the classroom...not the Principal. The teacher is in charge of the students, the Principal is in charge of the teachers. The teacher and the principal need to find some middle ground regarding the "control" of your son's allergy. This isn't a taffy pulling contest! This is a child's life and in my opinion, the professional who is with him most during the day is the one who needs to have the most information on his allergy and how to treat it and any up to date information.
Stay safe.

Posted on: Fri, 12/01/2000 - 10:51pm
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Joined: 05/28/2009 - 16:42

So, the laws of confidentiality are still alive and well in our schools, and this was a little slip-up! That's good to know!
Don't feel bad about your initial post, Cindy! How were you to know that the picture DIDN'T get distributed to all the parents? Of course, the parent who received the photo in her PA info package would have assumed everyone else got the photo, too. Plus, the support and advice on this board is sometimes needed PRIOR to discussing things with "the powers that be", so I don't blame you for posting right away.
This has been a good topic for discussion, in my opinion, and has started some of us thinking about the pros and cons of "publicity" for our PA kids. Once again, Queen of the Thread Starters, you have given us food for thought - something to ponder while you're polishing your crown! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 12/02/2000 - 6:17am
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Connie and Cayley's Mom, thank-you so much for not being upset with me. Connie, you made a very good point about it being a "dry run", and you know what, what both of you mentioned, by me posting here first, it did give me more insight, etc. when I spoke with Jesse's teacher.
What I find with this site (and that means the people who are kind enough to offer me support and caring, etc.) is that if I come in here and blast off, I blast off in here rather than say, the teacher or the principal. I understand that it is particularly important when dealing with the Schools that you don't get these people ticked off. But, also, in general, with other people/parents, I would prefer not to tick them off. I know that if I come in here and lose it, I tend to calm myself down to the point where I can deal reasonably with another human being.
Both of you again made some really thought provoking points. I really think that I am going to set-up a meeting with the principal, although I'm not clear that it will get me anywhere, and tell her that I'm not comfortable with how it is working out this year, that I preferred how things were going last year. I really feel that his teacher is the one who should be in control and I don't know why a principal would even question that except when he/she has a power/control "issue", which I know, for a fact, this one has.
I feel really sorry for my son's teacher. You know what I think I'm going to do? I think I will send all the information to his teacher first. I'll have her send it back home to me - I'll clearly write to her that this is information for her file alone and not to share it with anyone else, that I will allow the principal to deal with further desimination (if you can't spell the word, why are you using it? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] ) of the same information. That way, the teacher, who requires the information first-hand, not second-hand, will get it done. The principal won't even know any better and if Jesse's teacher gets a second copy, no biggie.
Doesn't this seem like an odd why to be having to deal with the school? But then, look at what Nursie is going through in her different threads. I would never want my child in that principal's school.
Again, I have to give many kudos to this wonderful young woman, who at the beginning of last year admitted to a friend of mine that is the school driver that she is "scared to death" about the PA. She has dealt with it marvellously. I know I've mentioned this before, but when he's going on a field trip, she knows I'm really nervous, and she just taps on her knapsack when they're loading on the bus, meaning all of his extra meds are in there. I am so thankful for her and so ticked off at the principal for attempting to ruin our relationship.
It's unfortunate, but I am going to have to speak with the principal because I need his primary caregiver to feel in control, regardless of the principal's feelings and I need to have the same relationship I had last year with her so I can continue to feel my son is "safe". Also, I want the teacher to feel comfortable enough to still be able to speak with me directly about anything rather than it having to go through the principal.
I don't even understand this reasoning on the part of the principal. I just see it as a power/control freak loose and it upsets me when Jesse does have such a wonderful teacher.
Now, next year, he may not be as fortunate.
Thank-you again for saying that it was okay that I posted first before speaking with the teacher and what you had to say did make sense - it had actually calmed me down so I could speak normally with her rather than blasting at her or refusing to deal with the situation at all. So, thank-you for not giving me sh** for it. I really, truly, appreciate it.
Now, on that note, 41 year old woman who has just completed birthday party for 5 year old with 10+ kids and attendance at town Santa Claus parade this morning is leaving the board so she can go and die on the sofa!
While I'm here, but this is definitely not the place, I have a new website to post later tonight that has been designed by a PA parent and you can print posters off for free for the site. It's an excellent site, but I'll post later when I'm not near death.
Strong advisory - no child bearing after the age of 30! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img] Best wishes and many thanks for understanding. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 12/02/2000 - 6:23am
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Oh, and Cayley's Mom, thank-you for the compliment and [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img] Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Sat, 12/02/2000 - 6:49am
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Okay, Cindy...Very important stuff here--how did you get the smilie to stick out it's tongue????? I didn't see THAT one in the FAQ section!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Do tell!!
Stay Safe.
[This message has been edited by Connie (edited December 02, 2000).]

Posted on: Sat, 12/02/2000 - 8:33am
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Anonymous (not verified)

Never mind, Cindy! I found them all! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]
It's pretty bad when I am this easily amused with myself! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
Stay Safe.

Posted on: Sat, 12/02/2000 - 8:54am
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Connie, it took me quite awhile to figure it out too and I probably messed up the first couple of times. First of all, I wish the Message Icon I could used looked like this
[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] instead of the octagon smilie it is. I don't like that one, but it's the closest to the one that I would use on a regular basis.
It's funny, one of my friends sent me an e-mail and they put [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img], just in typing like that on it and I thought they didn't know how to get a smilie face on their computer at all or whatever. I didn't understand that it was some computer language. So, I searched the web for a couple of hours trying to find her smilie faces that she could download and possibly cut and paste into her e-mails. What a waste of time!
No, I am quite amused by all of these things too. I usually use [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] and [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] but
Cayley's Mom definitely deserved the [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]
Also, did you see the warning about it being off-putting if you use too many? LOL! You know what, some days I just think, if you find something that makes you laugh, no matter how much other people may find it stupid (inane would be the "proper" word here), just go for it. So, now, I look forward to see what smilies you come up with in future posts. Enjoy and best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Mon, 12/04/2000 - 8:16pm
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Joined: 04/19/2000 - 09:00

Cindy, This is the first i have come back to this thread in a while. I am so relieved to see that she did not pass your sons picture out across the town. That makes me feel so much better. I don't know how I lead you to feel I was mad at you in this posting,but obviously somthing did. I was mad at the teacher for handing out the picture. Why would I have been mad at you? You did not have anything to do with handing it out. Now it doesn't matter seeing it was just a mistake and only one mom has it. I worry about some weirdo getting their hands on something like that. take care and have a good day. claire

Posted on: Mon, 12/04/2000 - 11:47pm
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Claire, no, no, I didn't think you were angry with me! I knew you were very angry with the school. What I was apologizing for was that I got your "blood a boiling" over something that was incorrect! You poor woman, is it just the nature of this board now, that we all feel like we have to apologize for every
word we write? No, I knew that you were REALLY mad at the school and then it turned out that the teacher had simply made one mistake and given the picture to one child.
I was VERY upset with myself for having rushed in here and posted and getting great response only to have it turn out that I was wrong. I felt I deserved to get roasted by all who had posted their concerns, including yourself!
As it turned out, everything is okay, but I know how angry you can become when you're in someone else's thread, I can't go into Nursie's current situation threads without starting to get REALLY angry and I even have to say, I have to leave now, because I'm so angry. I knew EXACTLY how this thread had affected you and I was upset that I had gotten you so angry and concerned and it turned out to be nothing. It's ME that should be apologizing, Claire, not you!
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Tue, 12/05/2000 - 12:26am
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Joined: 04/19/2000 - 09:00

Hey Cindy,no problem. I don't get mad very easy. Only when it comes to protecting my children. My husband is a pretty big guy,and everybody is afraid of making him mad all the time. The kids think it is cool. They are so funny because they have seen him when he is really angry. Like when someone called his little "princess" a name on the bus. She told all the kids he was coming on the bus. He never said that but she thought that would solve the matter. Christopher saw him angry at a football game when a person said the wrong thing. Other than that we spend our time pretty happy. Life is way to short to be angry over words. I would only be mad if someone hurt my babies. Best wishes with your now 5 year old. I can not believe My 2 year old will be having a birthday next month. Have a good day. claire

Posted on: Fri, 02/14/2003 - 3:50am
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Old, old thread. Simply re-raising for Deb O. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 02/14/2003 - 10:35am
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Joined: 09/01/2006 - 09:00

i'll have the odd response here. i would be thrilled if our school system took drastic measures. for that matter i'd be thrilled if they took any measures. hahaha. i wouldn't mind if my child's picture was given out. but...i do have to wonder...what purpose does it serve another child's parent to have a photo of your child? i could see that it might be useful for staff at school in the event of a reaction; so they would immediately recognize your son in the event of a reaction/exposure. so..if there was any purpose to giving out my kids' photos (if it increased their safety at school in some way), i 'd be happy to allow it. just my opinion though, for what it's worth...joey
[This message has been edited by joeybeth (edited February 14, 2003).]

Posted on: Sat, 02/15/2003 - 4:57am
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Anonymous (not verified)

joeybeth, this was an old old thread and I didn't even read any of it, just your post after I re-raised it for Deb O.
I have to say that I do agree, to a degree.
We tend to be quite *out* with Jesse's allergy. In the last small town that we lived in, we had a newspaper article written re his PA with his picture in it.
This year, when he was moving from the one school to the next in our new city, I approached the local newspaper and had an article done just before school began, complete with both Jesse and Ember's picture.
I was hoping that it would help educate people just before the beginning of the school year (I'm not clear if it did or not).
Jesse's teacher has the newspaper article pinned up at the front of his class. Because he is the only PA child in his classroom, basically every other parent that picks their child up at school knows who he is and certainly all of his classmates know who he is. I'm totally okay with that.
Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

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