Peanuts, Tree nuts and Acorns

Posted on: Tue, 03/07/2000 - 4:25am
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Hello, I am new to this board and to the world of allergies.

My son (age 2) has sensitivity to peanuts, almonds, milk and eggs. As far as I know, he has never had an allergic reaction/exposure to peanuts or almonds, however his skin and RAST tests are fairly high.

Does anybody know if acorns (technically tree nuts) pose a threat? I recently heard of a story in which a young child had a severe allergic reaction caused by an acorn.

Is there any merit to this story and do I have to keep my son indoors?

Please help.

Posted on: Tue, 03/07/2000 - 6:16am
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pI'm glad you brought this up again. I was wondering the same thing? We just moved to the South, acorns litter the ground every where we go and in every school yard...br /
I'd like to test my pa daughter for them specifically on the 14th. If I can keep her off Claritin for 5 days, urgh!/p

Posted on: Tue, 03/07/2000 - 10:31am
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pOk, the thing is, to be allergic to something, you HAVE TO HAVE BEEN exposed to the "something". So this means that somewhere somehow, your child was exposed to the allergen(s). Now, unless you read every label, lived in a totally serile environment, never ate away from home, never ordered food from a restaurant, never ate ANYTHING prepared, you can and did exposed your child to the allergen. It was , most probably a minor thing, didn't notice, and life went on. Allergy tests can not work (detect antibodies) unless the system was exposed to the allergene so that it could create these allergenes.So testing for a substance that a person did not have a previous known exposure can result in a FALSE NEGATIVE result. This means that the person may well be allergic to the substance tested for, had their body been exposed to it and had their body been given the oppotunity to develope antibodies. Talk to your allergist and see what he says about testing for acorns. Do not keep your child indoors. Just be mindful of what they pick up. Personally, when spring comes, i'm the first on the list for the gardener guy to come and clean me yard. The squirrels have a field day all winter and my lawn looks like a peanut party, the morning after. The acorn story may well be true, but that child had to be allergic to acorns. He can still be allergic to peanuts too. And other tree nuts too. You can be allergic to a wide variety of things, not just or only peanuts./p

Posted on: Wed, 03/08/2000 - 10:36am
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pHi, some of you may gasp in horror but I let my severely tree nut and peanut allergic child pick up and play with acorns and chesnuts as long as the nut is whole and not cracked. I do this because my severely allergic brother had no problems at all playing with those nuts when he was growing up nor did some of the other peanut and tree nut allergic adult persons that I asked. Not scientific but I do not believe it is risky so there you have my approach and my opinion./p

Posted on: Thu, 03/09/2000 - 3:30am
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pMy daughter is tree nut allergic and I've always wondered about acorns, even pine cones. I wish they would RAST test her for everything remotely possible, but apparently it is so expensive, they only do a few then tell you to avoid all nuts.br /
BTW, a friend of hers has a Butternut Tree in her yard and the squirrels go crazy over them. I have not let her play over there on nice days yet...but I guess I'm going to have to think about this soon!/p

Posted on: Sat, 03/11/2000 - 1:47am
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poh canada!/p
p I'd like to say you are incredibly knowledgeable about these allergies!!. Anyway you burst my bubble with your comments on false testing. I just got back my 2yr olds cap rast test on tree nuts and shellfish and was so so relieved that he was negative(he has so many allergies, I was happy that the nuts were negative even though I don't plan on giving him any). But now you say it could be false. Why do they bother doing the cap rast then?/p

Posted on: Sat, 03/11/2000 - 3:33am
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pI think that it is important to recognize that we need to be able to control our stress levels when dealing with allergies. I think that if you have had skin or RAST or capRAST testing done that you can feel confident that the results are accurate unless there is a real reason [such as eczema affecting skin tests] for not relying on the test results. It is also important to recognize that scientific study results and medical opinions vary and that in the end opinions that say you have to have been exposed versus others that say there can be a genetic basis with no prior exposure are just that opinions, based on science, but opinions just the same. I have to admit that I did insist that our allergist re-test my son a year after his first tests but I will not re-test again until he is close to adulthood and I am confident that I can rely on the results./p

Posted on: Tue, 07/01/2003 - 8:55pm
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pWe just purchased a cottage. On the side of the cottage is a chestnut tree which litters all over the ground. I immediately want it cut down, but my NEW neighbour doesn't. (great, haven't moved in yet, and already problems.) It is planted right in the middle of both of our property line. (15 ft. high)/p
pHas anyone had a reaction with chestnuts? I am praying no./p
pSandy/p

Posted on: Wed, 07/02/2003 - 10:15am
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pAnd I'll join in too because I just realized the 6 acres we bought last fall is half full with hickory trees and the other half is oak, so we will have lots of hickory nuts and acorns. Kathryn, I had wondered about your approach as someone had suggested to me that as long as the shell was still on could they actually even get exposed to the protein? Anyone know a good way to efficiently clean up nuts in a yard, I have no clue.../p

Posted on: Wed, 07/02/2003 - 10:28am
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pSandy,/p
pI can't believe I'm going to tell you this because I LOVE trees but..../p
pIf your neighbor won't budge, you could always poison the tree and then it would just die. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]/p
pPB hater,/p
pI couldn't help myself on this one but have you considered buying a squirrel? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]/p
p[This message has been edited by e-mom (edited July 02, 2003).]/p

Posted on: Thu, 07/03/2003 - 1:11am
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pI have heard vinegar will do the trick! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p

Posted on: Thu, 07/03/2003 - 1:55am
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pSandy,/p
pActually I was thinking about this last night because I have another way./p
pWhat about telling your new neighbor about pa, etc. and offering to take it down and replace it with a safer tree?/p
pSince it's only 15 feet tall it shouldn't be a big deal to do this yourself./p

Posted on: Thu, 07/03/2003 - 4:28am
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pI got a smile out of your post about poisioning the tree, but she would be very suspicious. /p
pSquirrels were always dropping by with peanuts in their mouths at our old cottage, until I told neighbours to stop feeding them. They would dig holes on our property and drop in their nuts for the winter! I always found shells everywhere. Now I have to "train" new people. (what a drag)./p
pMy husband told this woman that we would plant another tree in its place, but she said she liked this one! (what a b----) OPPS! sorry didn't mean to say that./p
pIt is such a messy tree anyways./p

Posted on: Thu, 07/03/2003 - 6:18am
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pLegally, if it is on your property you have every right to have it removed. /p
pI know this isn't going to be a very friendly gesture, but since your neighbor won't budge on your proposal, IMO I think she wasn't being all that friendly./p
pP.S. Tell the neighbors that if they want to feed the squirrels to feed them dried corn on the cob. Squirrels LOVE it./p
pOne more thing, you could always hit it with the car!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]/p
p[This message has been edited by e-mom (edited July 03, 2003).]/p

Posted on: Sun, 07/27/2003 - 8:08am
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pHi everyone,br /
We moved into our new cottage, and the first thing my husband did was cut the chestnut tree down! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img] Our old neighbours took the wood to his cottage to burn, and my husband burned the leaves. I took my son for a drive while he was burning the leaves. /p
pWe happened to come back a little to early, and got a whiff of the smoke, but my son was fine. /p
pThe neighbour didn't come out of her cottage to say "hi" or "welcome". But her husband,kids, and the other neighbours to the other side are wonderful, and very supportive./p

Posted on: Sun, 07/27/2003 - 11:03am
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pWe recently moved to 5 acres covered with Oak trees and some pine. I have let my PA DD pick up both acorns and pine cones with no psoblem. However, I will say that I didn't really let her it just is damn impossible to keep her from doing it. Before we knew about PA, she handled them all the time but since her diagnosis she has done it in my presence but not with my ok. I have asked both allergists and both have said that they have never heard of acorns being a problem. The latest FAAN newsletter said the meat of the acorn is the problem. We go to the allergist tomorrow so I will ask him again. I have no idea what I will do if he says stay away from the trees. We have over 200 trees that are over 100 years old and I will move before cutting them down. This also makes me a bit frantic for my PA and non-PA daughter. UGH - another thing./p

Posted on: Sun, 07/27/2003 - 11:15am
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pWell, it is merely anecdotal, but I have let my dd handle acorns and pine cones without a problem. Gnerally, her allergies manifest themselves most notable on her skin. She easily gets blotchy and such. Nothing happened with these things. Now, I would not let her eat them! A baby or toddler would be tough. We do not have them in our yard, but my Dad does, so it is not often we have to worry about it. /p
pI would agree that for a severe reaction, one would have to have ingested the allergen before, and or again for the big reaction. The likelihood seems remote with acorns(unless you have a child putting them in their mouth). becca/p

Posted on: Mon, 07/28/2003 - 3:24am
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pMy daughter is severely allergic to peanuts and tree nuts and also, ACORNS./p
pAs a youngster she and her cousin were playing with acorns and they put them in a bucket of water (don't ask me why!) anyway the 'juice' from the acorns ran down her arms and soaked into the sleeves of her jumper, this then went on her skin and caused a bad hives reaction./p
pLuckily it was treated with antihistamine and was okay but we now avoid acorns either wet or dry. On the other hand, she's not had reactions to conkers (horse chestnut) nor pine cones - though I am suspicious about pine nuts (as in Italian cooking)./p
pLindka/p

Posted on: Mon, 07/28/2003 - 12:01pm
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pOkay peanut people, you have all just lost the right to ever complain about anything nut-related that your neighbors ever do./p

Posted on: Mon, 07/28/2003 - 12:05pm
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pPine nuts are considered tree nuts and should be avoided by TNA people. I am not sure if what we call "horse chesnuts" are really nuts or just large seeds. I think that they are different then the chesnuts you eat....I think we need a botanist./p

Posted on: Tue, 07/29/2003 - 9:05am
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pHmm. Maybe I'll have to do some more reading about this. Our son's allergist said that acorns from the oak tree in our backyard shouldn't be a problem. (The tree is only a couple of years old and hasn't produced any yet.)/p

Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2003 - 4:23am
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pWhat exactly did that mean nutster? Keeping our babies, and children safe is wrong?/p

Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2003 - 4:57am
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pQuote:Originally posted by becca:br /
[b]Well, it is merely anecdotal, but I have let my dd handle acorns and pine cones without a problem. [/b]/p
pHi Becca,/p
pI've handled acorns and pine cones since I was a young child and never had any problem. I think it should be safe, in my opinion. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p

Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2003 - 5:09am
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pQuote:Originally posted by saknjmom:br /
[b]What exactly did that mean nutster? Keeping our babies, and children safe is wrong? [/b]/p
p Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:br /
[b]br /
Jockster, (and those of similiar personality)/p
pYou most likely are in the process of or soon will be getting a "higher education". If you already have, you most likely are unemployed. /p
pMost likely, someday you will be in search of, or offered a really, really, desireable position of employment. If you make it that far in the interview process, most likely or certainly you will have to submit to a background check and psychological eval./p
pTrust me, this would probably entail a lie detector test (as well as credit check, lol---which will prove more frightening for you, I could only guess). On the psych and lie detector test (sometimes performed simultaneously) questions regarding your current activity might be posed./p
pHere is to assuring you, most likely,/p
p[i]you will remember[/i]./p
pTATA./p
pMommaBear (Straight Face)[/b]/p

Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2003 - 8:07am
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perik/p
pDitto!!!!/p
pLove this sitebr /
Synthia/p

Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2003 - 9:50am
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pSaw our allergist AGAIN this week and he said I should not worry to much about acorns. Yes, the chance is there but remote. I can try to keep her away but most likely with all the acorns and pine cones on the property it will not be possible. She has handled them in the past without problem so hopefully this will continue./p

Posted on: Sun, 08/03/2003 - 11:26pm
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p[img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img] Oh my god!! We just noticed that the tree beside the chestnut tree (that we just cut down), is a Butternut Tree!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img] I didn't even see fruit on it until someone pointed it out to us. I thought it was in the willow family or something. (I haven't a clue on trees.)/p
pOn the internet it says that it in the white walnut, or black walnut family?? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] Oh my god!! ...it is so big and wide. Does anyone know if this poses a threat to p.a.?/p
pWe have been at the cottage for a week, and my son was fine. (although we took claritan every day.) But what happens when the fruit (that is now hard and green, rippens and drops?)/p
pP.S. My neighbour who was upset about the chestnut tree coming down, seems okay now and is talking to us and is friendly. But if this Butternut tree has to come down, she might call the township. This tree is enormous!! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/eek.gif[/img]/p
psigned,br /
panicing Sandy [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 12:16am
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pQuote:Originally posted by Sandy:br /
[b] On the internet it says that it in the white walnut, or black walnut family?? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/confused.gif[/img] Oh my god!! ...it is so big and wide. Does anyone know if this poses a threat to p.a.?[/b]/p
pHi Sandy,/p
pI know that it would not pose any threat to me, since I am not allergic to walnuts. I am only allergic to peanuts./p
pIs your child allergic to walnuts? If not, the tree should be no problem. If you are not sure, you could take her to an allerist for a test to see. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 6:02am
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pyes, he is allergic to walnuts. He is not anaphylactic, but he ate a muffin with traces of walnuts, and he was vomiting within minutes. this happened twice, one other time with bread./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 12:29pm
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pJust to be safe, you better cut down all the trees in the neighborhood. You never know when one of them might sprout a nut or seed, and then some chirpy squirrel brings it to your yard, where little Johnny and Princess stumble onto it./p
pJust so there are no problems, you should not tell your neighbors that you're going to cut their trees down, and you should do it while they're not home./p

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pQuote:Originally posted by Nutster:br /
[b]Just to be safe, you better cut down all the trees in the neighborhood[/b]/p
pCut down all the trees? wow.. You have such hatred towards trees.. what did they ever do to you besides provide oxygen to your lungs? Perhaps some type of tree phobia? There are doctors who can treat syndromes like this so I suggest you make an appointment at the local medical health centre for an evaluation of your neural network./p
p[This message has been edited by erik (edited August 04, 2003).]/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 8:19pm
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pHey Nutster, is there a reason you come on this site? I mean besides to harass? You are rude./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 10:35pm
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pHmm...../p
pI come to this site for support.br /
Maybe I will drop off this discussion site for good. There seems to always be a rotten apple who have to poison a great site./p
pThank - you for the people who help and support me. I will not be asking anything else for a long time./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 10:41pm
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pHi Sandy,/p
pNutster just comes here to harrasss people about PA. Please continue to visit this site. If people start to leave because of rude people, then the peanut forces will win and it will make life more dangerous for us. Try to ignore the trolls./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/04/2003 - 11:27pm
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pHi Sandy,br /
It sounds like your child is young, so it is really difficult to control what they pick up and touch. We probably would never notice until we have a nut-allergic child, but there are nut and acorn trees, everywhere. The way that we have handled it is that I have explained to ds that those are tree nuts, and not to touch them (just like if you were at the park and there is goose poop, tell them not to touch it). Once they are a little older, they will "get it" and just avoid the nuts.br /
Take care,br /
Andrea/p
p[This message has been edited by ACBaay (edited August 05, 2003).]/p

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pMy daughter has life threatening tree nut allergies and handled acorns this past weekend. Although she did not stick them in her mouth, she did touch her face and neck and broke out into hives immediately. It was quite a significant reaction. Had I put it together that an acorn is a tree nut, I probably would have not let her touch them. Hand washing after handling probably would have also solved the issue. Not going to keep her indoors, but definitely going to keep a watchful eye. Just not worth a trip to the ER./p

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