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Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 11:58pm
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And to think, I was watching the biography channel at 1:00 - I should have been here [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
At this point in Toronto, you would have a hard time finding an elementary school that does not have some sort of peanut ban (could be class or school). However, the three I have spoken to staff in [b] will not use the term peanut free [/b]. Peanut bans have been happening in Toronto for nearly 10 years.
At first they were calling themselves peanut free and the expectation was that the pa child could eat [b] any food product [/b] that came in to the school. That's why at first there were actually cases of kids who never had reactions at school started having them when the school became peanut free.
Now, personally, I don't really care what it's called, but peanut-free is not an accurate term for what we have.
peanut ban
reduce the risk
allergy aware
these terms are more accurate.
I also think a school principal would be more open to some of these other terms.
Eric is correct that most elementary schools here do not have cafeterias. Kids either eat in their class, in the gym, or in the halls. (Trust me, the halls is the worse for food residue.)
But a more important question (in this city) is why are over half the students staying for lunch when they live 5 - 10 minutes walk from the school and parents are home? If only those who needed to stay, stayed, that alone would reduce the risk quite a bit. Less food and less mess to clean up.

Posted on: Tue, 05/06/2003 - 11:59pm
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b] (Sorry. Just got up...Haven't had my coffee yet... Need to take my anti-paranoia pill so that I don't worry about getting re-directed to one of the threads on school nurses... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img] I guess I should say LITTERALLY speaking, all these concepts play into one another... it is impossible for me to speak to any one alone.)
JMHO.
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Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:00am
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Eric, there are staff members with first aid training. These days that does include training re allergies and epi-pens.
Usually the gym teacher is one of the teachers with training.

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:07am
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Eric,:
Quote:Originally posted by MommaBear:
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Exactly what "Standard of Care" do parents expect, require, or feel their children worthy of when in an "formal", "institutional" setting such as a "school"?
MommaBear [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/cool.gif[/img]
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form.
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(Although, I am unclear as to whether this question would apply to you. Yet.)

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:10am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b]Lana, synthia, anyone?
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Before you know it........... You may also be directed to the "Annoying" thread. LOL. I forgot, is that the same as the "Bandwidth" thread, or are they one and the same? [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/tongue.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:13am
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Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[b]Eric, there are staff members with first aid training. These days that does include training re allergies and epi-pens.
Usually the gym teacher is one of the teachers with training.[/b]
I posted before:
[i]"Exactly what "Standard of Care" do parents expect, require, or feel their children worthy of when in an "formal", "institutional" setting such as a "school"?
MommaBear
Disclaimer: I am not offering advice in any manner or form."[/i]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:16am
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MB - None that he admits to here [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]
Since I do have a child in elementary (though not pa) I will answer your question. I expect a staff member to have first aid training - and be available.
I expect them to have the sense to use gloves when treating my child (not latex if either are allergic).
I expect them to call me and if necessary to call 9-1-1 and my experience has been that regarding ambulances they tend to err on the side of caution - which is what I prefer.
I also expect them to have any student's medicine readily available (especially though not solely allergy meds.)

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:16am
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Quote:Originally posted by Gail W:
[b]
I guess I should say LITTERALLY speaking, all these concepts play into one another... it is impossible for me to speak to any one alone.)
JMHO.
[/b]
I seem to recall you mentioning on the boards you had experience as a [b]"Health Educator".[/b] Maybe my memory is wrong. Maybe it's just me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by MommaBear (edited May 07, 2003).]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:24am
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Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[b]peanut ban
reduce the risk
allergy aware
these terms are more accurate. [/b]
maybe peanut-safe?
And if I had been in a peanut-free classroom, I would [b]not[/b] blindly eat anything that was there and assume it was safe. I am more allergy aware than that and I guess I assumed others would be too. But maybe that's just me. [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]

Posted on: Wed, 05/07/2003 - 12:26am
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Quote:Originally posted by AnnaMarie:
[b]Eric, there are staff members with first aid training. These days that does include training re allergies and epi-pens.
Usually the gym teacher is one of the teachers with training.[/b]
That is good to know. Maybe that was true in my day too (many eons ago) but as a kid I did not know.

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