peanut allergy cure

Posted on: Sun, 08/22/1999 - 1:32am
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Hello! I am a mother of an 8yr. old child who has been deathly allergic to peanuts since birth! We have made several trips to the hospital in the past due to being unaware of how many things contained peanuts! About a year ago I purchased a magazine at the health food store that had an article in about a cure for allergies. My son and were already taking shots every week and living on claritin and benedryl (supposedly for the rest of our lives) I contacted the website in this article and found a doctor in my area who was trained in this n.a.e.t. (allergy elimination technique) and it has been a miracle and a godsend! This technique uses muscle tasting and acupunture( acupressure for children ) to find and permanately eliminate any allergy you have. I have now been eliminated for more than 50 allergies and my son is very close to that. Just this week we finally were ready to try nuts. I was very nervous and scared! The first time my son only held a peanut in his hand, the next day he held the peanut in his mouth- NO REACTION! so the following day I let him eat a small amount of peanut butter and still NO REACTION! not even a single hive! I realize this is going to be hard to believe, but it works and I just want to help all who suffer from the problems as us. There are two websites you can go to- [url="http://www.allergies2000.com"]http://www.allergies2000.com[/url] and [url="http://www.naet.com"]http://www.naet.com[/url] These will explain how and why it works and how to find a practioner in your area. There is also a book you can puchase called Winning the war against Asthma & Allergies written by Dr. Ellen Cutler. I hope this will help everyone in the right direction, it has made our lives 100% better, but be patient you must go through the basics first (which is explained in the book ) before you start to see results. If I can answer any other questions I will be happy to help anyone I can thank-you for your time and I hope this will make as much of a change in your lives as it has ours!

Posted on: Sun, 08/22/1999 - 4:26am
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pSorry, TJ and PJ, but this sounds a little shady to me and I would caution people on trying this and other "alternative" treatments that have not been adequately studied and published in peer reviewed medical journals./p

Posted on: Sun, 08/22/1999 - 8:54am
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pHi! I would expect you to be skeptical, I was myself when I first read about n.a.e.t. Did you check out the websites? There are four books available to the public, there are patient testimonials, chat rooms to share experiences,you can e-mail the doctors in California and they do respond quickly! You can find a lisenced practioner in your area to speak with, and they can explainhow this works with Kinesiology, acupunture, and muscle reflex testing. Maybe it sounds to good to be true, but sometimes the most natural ways of healing fool the scientific world! My son's own pediatrician dismissed me when I tried to explain it to him. He had said the peanut allergy would never go away and we would always have to carry an epipen with us. Now that he has seen my child eat a nut even he is amazed and did'nt know how to respond! I only wanted to help others and would not have entered this website if Dr. Nambupripad had not suggested I do so. She conveyed to me this will be more publicly addressed when there are enough doctors trained to handle the patient numbers. Investigate this for yourself, I think you'll be happy with what you find!/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/23/1999 - 12:54am
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pI went the naet site before I found this one and believe me...I was VERY tempted (I'd been looking into alternative medicines when I was getting nowhere with mainstream/modern medicine). However, on visiting, I got one of those "gut feelings" that these NAET doctors are in it for the money. They don't post how it works, or anything of any real value...they merely tell you to buy these books which will explain everything in detail and you'll get to read about all their successes. /p
pUnfortunately, Dr Nambudripad has only reinforced that feeling by suggesting that you put his website up (for more business?)./p
pI'm still desperate to find a cure and some relief for my daughter; however, as our ped. allergist once told me...if it were just myself, she'd tell me I could/should try anything I wanted...but it is my 3 yr old daughter...would I really want to risk her life on something that has not been thoroughly tested or even really researched?/p
pI do understand, and believe, that many alternative medicines are wonderful and have their place (even though modern doctors would disagree whole-heartedly)... But after some serious thinking on the subject...ONLY for myself or my husband (if he wished) and NOT for our daughter, she's far too precious to let modern or alternative doctors experiment with. [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/biggrin.gif[/img]/p
p[This message has been edited by Marielle (edited August 23, 1999).]/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/23/1999 - 4:36am
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pHi T.J.,/p
pYou do still carry the epi-pen, don't you? You know, there are many documented cases where the body does not always react negatively to the allergen, but the next exposure could be the big one. I would suggest that you still keep your son away from peanuts, just in case./p
pTake care, Debbie/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/23/1999 - 7:12am
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p"Muscle tasting"? Acupressure? .../p
pAnd this eliminates the complex IgE mediated anaphylactic reaction how? /p
pI had more than a gut feeling about this one. Caveat emptor!/p
pAnd why must this be posted on nearly all of the boards on this site?/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/23/1999 - 7:52am
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pI,m sorry to see such a negative reply I only wanted to share our positive experience with n.a.e.t.. In responce to Marielle, Dr. Nambudripad only suggested I use this website because I myself wanted to publicize this with the media and she suggested I only share my experience with other allergy sufferers for now until they have enough Drs. trained to handle the patient demand. Furthermore my doctor is one of the most thorough and caring professionals I have ever met! She would even come to our home if it were necessary to isolate the problem causing the allergic reaction. My child is the most precious gift god could give to me! I am not able to have any more children and would never risk losing my only one! I only want to give him a better chance at staying alive and well! In the next couple of years this will gain more public support as those who are willing to try it add their own testimonials. I do indeed still keep an epipen- thats just being responsible. Also my typing error was to be muscle testing- not tasting! I only posted this in what I considered to be four of the main areas. To try and help others with a sucessful alternative to living with a dangerous and frightening allergy. This is something very powerful and not to be taken lightly. We have learned we must follow all instructions to the letter and then the allergies are completely eliminated. Those around us were skeptical until they saw the results too!/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/23/1999 - 12:54pm
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pTJ PJ:/p
pThanks for alerting us to this alternative method in treating peanut allergies. For myself, I have had both good and bad experiences with alternative medicine. As MJ mentioned, the biggest problem with alternative medicine is that the methods and practitioners do not undergo the rigorous review process that Western Medicine must endure. /p
pI recently went to an herbalist to try and get off my asthma medication. She prescribed a number of herbs, including lobelia, which caused more disturbing side effects than the corti-steroids I had been taking. I did an Internet search on the various herbs and found that lobelia had been outlawed by the FDA because it had killed enough people to get their attention. As I relunctantly went back to my corti-steroids, I did so with the knowledge that at least Western Medicine allows me the courtesy to know just how many people it kills and why. [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]/p
pBut I do not discount alternative treatments. What Chinese medicine does well, IMO, is work with strengthening the immune system so that illness is prevented. However, once a disease has progressed to a chronic condition, Western Medicine is the only way to go./p
pPlease don't be offended if others on this site are skeptical. I did visit [url="http://www.quackwatch."]http://www.quackwatch.[/url] com and came up with this article on NAET, just for balance./p
p [url="http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/ak.html"]www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/ak.html[/url] /p
pBut I do believe in miracles, do believe that alternative medicine has its place in health and healing, do believe that healers walk among us as Christ did many years ago./p
pAs for the doubters, would you extend us the courtesy of posting your son's status one year from now? I'd be interested in what the long-term effects are from the resolution of his peanut allergy./p
pWishing you all the best,/p
pNoreen /p
p[This message has been edited by Noreen (edited August 23, 1999).]/p

Posted on: Tue, 08/24/1999 - 1:35am
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pDear T.J. P.J./p
pI'm happy to hear of your son's recovery./p
pPlease understand that my intention isn't 'negativity.' I simply wish to warn other readers who may be so desperate for a glimmer of hope for themselves or their children that they grasp at any straw./p
pThe problem is that peanut anaphylaxis can be so very deadly in such a short time. Those who submit to unproven remedies (a testimonial or individual claim of 'cure' is simply not sufficient here) may be risking a severe allergic reaction when they expose themselves to the allergen (i.e. peanut) in a non-medical setting. /p
pMoreover, they may develop a false sense of security and suffer a very severe reaction later on if they believe themselves to be 'cured.' Some people have died by relying solely on alternative remedies. Hence my caution caveat emptor -- let the buyer beware. This is the only sensible thing to say. /p
pOn a more positive note, some alternative remedies *do* work. Those who wish to learn more about their validity (and double-blind clinical trials which can help prove the efficacy of a given remedy) can visit the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) at the National Institutes of Health. Their URL is: /p
p[url="http://nccam.nih.gov/"]http://nccam.nih.gov/[/url]/p
pTheir toll-free phone number is:/p
p1-888-644-6226 /p
pGood luck and continued good health to you and your son./p
p[This message has been edited by Anna (edited August 24, 1999).]/p

Posted on: Sat, 08/28/1999 - 10:24am
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pHi! Just to add a little more information about this technique you can check out the August 1998 issue of the Natural Health magazine. It contains an article that explains the food allergy cure and how to find a doctor. Also there are some books that are very educational in this topic, Winning the War Against Asthma Allergies by Dr. Ellen Cutler, Say Goodbye to Illness by Dr. Devi Nambudripad, The N.A.E.T. Guide Book also by Dr. Nambudripad and Living Pain Free with Acupressure also by the same author. I hope these ideas will be of use to anyone whos interested in this techinique! I found them to be great reading, not just for the allergy part, but for the knowledge about health and well being in general. You can gain a lot of insight on how the body works and reacts to different things./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/30/1999 - 6:15am
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pWant to know my gut reaction to the NAET website? This is one of the bigger piles of quackery s--t I have ever seen. Sorry, but my reflexes and muscles are fine, I'm healthy and fit, and I am allergic to peanuts too. I find it hard to believe that any parent of a PA child would EVER put a peanut in that child's mouth or give that child peanut butter to eat to "test" to see if some quack theory about muscle weakness has "cured" that child of PA./p

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pI got a private email response from (I think) the person who started this thread. Suffice it to say that this person started to compare belief in NAET to belief in "jesus" - need I say more?/p

Posted on: Mon, 08/30/1999 - 10:59am
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pTo all of those out there who take support in this website I will only defend myself as to say I would'nt even dare to compare Jesus to any medical problem. I was'nt intending a private reply, only to save space on this board for more important issues. I only stated that many did'nt believe when Jesus walked this earth. I guess I should have chosen an example that did'nt include any religious overtones. I am deeply grateful for what this technique has done for my family and only the future will tell if others will be helped as we were. In response to my son's condition I will not be put on the defensive. I will always keep an epipen at school and at home with us, I will never forget what it is like to see your child suffer from this terrible allergy and the fear it has instilled in us to check and recheck every package and label before buying or using anything. Wondering if you should ever allow your child the privilege of attending a sleepover or as spoken of in another thread, the nightmare of going to a ballgame and all of a sudden you are surrounded by people eating peanuts and your only course of action is to pick your child up and carry him out of there before danger grows any closer. Perhaps trying to find a trustworthy child care provider who won't let your child out of her sight as you would? I have met with all these nightmares and more, and I will not be judged by one person who has chosen to dismiss me as though I were not of the same issue at hand. As I have stated before I only wanted to help others and I did'nt want to cause any problems. I only wanted to give an alternative idea that might benefit those willing to investigate the possibilities that n.a.e.t. has to offer. I am not a doctor, just an individual whose life and child's life has been changed in a way we did'nt think possible./p

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pWhile I don't place much store in these alternative methods either, I believe that we ought to at least lend a sympathetic ear to this poor parent who is evidently grasping at anything to cure this horrible allergy. I would love to think that a cure is at hand, but prefer to wait for some tried, tested, and proven method for it. I am really taking to the heart the message bought back from one FAN conference that stated that we parents can expect our younger kids to go off to college with a prevention/cure for p.a./p
pGood luck to all./p

Posted on: Mon, 08/30/1999 - 10:34pm
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pAfter watching my child go into anaphlactic shock, I dont think I would give him peanuts/nuts, no matter who approved the cure. The experience has left a tremendous scar on my family. However, I think we can all agree to disagree. Each of us are responsible for our own child's well being. Are the risks worth the consequences? For my son, NO. Lynda/p

Posted on: Tue, 08/31/1999 - 12:30am
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pOne of the marvels of the internet is that nobody can be certain of anyone else's identity. It's common practice for 'marketers' to infiltrate into virtual communities such as ours, use the right lingo/refer to familiar allergy situations, and thereby gain trust.br /
In some cases, two such individuals post -- the second to agree with said marketer./p
pNot that I'm accusing anyone here of this. In the case of this thread, the poster could well be a legit, concerned parent. It's just something else to keep in mind in general -- *especially* when someone visits with the purpose of introducing the community to a commercial product./p
pIn any case, I doubt that any such visitor would be willing to assume legal liability were one of us, or our children, to suffer an allergic reaction or die due to the 'natural' technique in question./p
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pAgain, I suggest that you check out the naet web page, where they claim to be able to "cure" almost every known human ailment (why should they leave PA out?) and make your own judgement about how sincere, informed, and concerned this poster is. /p
pAlso, being a jew, I don't appreciate being lectured (via private email - how did she get my email address, anyway?) by this poster about how not believing in naet is just like not believing in "jesus"./p

Posted on: Tue, 08/31/1999 - 7:54am
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pHi Rebgaby,/p
pWhen you post, look at the three items right next to the date of your post(i.e. box w/?, an envelope and pencil w/notepad. If you selected in your *profile* to have your e-mail visible to other people, all they have to do is click on the middle envelope and your e-mail address comes up. If you want to change this and not have your e-mail address available, click on *Profile* at the top of the screen and change your settings for your e-mail address not to be viewed which will be located at the bottom of the profile page./p
pOnce this is done, only two *items* will appear at the top of your posts instead of three. (The first one is for your profile, the second one is for your e-mail address and the third is to edit your own messages)./p
pStay safe./p
p******************/p
pT.J. P.J.,/p
pYou said your child has been deathly allergic to peanuts since *birth.* At what age did you find out your child was allergic to peanuts and how did you discover his allergy?/p
p[This message has been edited by Connie (edited August 31, 1999).]/p

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pThanks, Connie. I forgot about that! It's fine for people to be able to see my email address - I have nothing to hide myself! I had just forgotten I had chosen that option./p
pIf anyone is wondering about naet as an "alternative" method for diagnosing and treating medical problems, the quackwatch link above is very good./p

Posted on: Tue, 08/31/1999 - 10:43am
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pIn response to your question Connie, When my son was a baby my husband was eating peanutbutter cups and gave our son two tiny bites of the center filling. Within a couple of minutes he had welts all over his body and began to projectile vomit. Well we knew something was terribly wrong and called his pediatrition and he asked if we introduced any new foods. We told him about the p.b. cups and he said to get to the hospital immediately and he would meet us there. at the time we lived in a rural area and it would have taken an ambulence longer to find us than for us to drive him. By the time we arrived (about 10 minutes) he was barely breathing and his eyes were rolling back in his head. At that time I had never heard of such severe reaction to any allergy. I was what the allergy doctor called a 2+ on the scale, and she said he inherited it from me only of course much worse. Nobody, even family members seemed to understand the severness of his allergy and because they didn't listen we made a few more trips to the emergency room before everybody learned to check every label and ask questions when we went out. since the time he learned to talk he learned to ask for himself does this have nuts? I never let him try any other kinds so I don't know if it would have been the same! We just got our first computer two months ago and the internet Aug. 1st and thats why I never knew of this site. I never realized how many other people shared the same worries and how many are affected by peanuts. I was very excited to find something to help my son and I wanted to share our experience with others who had the same problem. I used myself as a guinea pig first to see if it really worked. When my seasonal allergies disappeared and have not returned this year! I felt we were onto something positive, so we started to eliminate food allergies and they have a been a sucess as well. I sure didn't mean to step on toes, and once again I never should have used Jesus as an example. Better said would have been- everyone thought the world was flat but Columbus took a chance and discoved it wasn't. I took a chance on myself so as not to risk my child and we found it to be beneficial for both of us. The doctors will openly admit this does'nt cure 100% of those who try. About 80-85% will be sucessful with this technique. I also wasn't trying to be liable for anyones health, it was only a recommendation for those who sought an alternative treatment./p

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pI looked at "Dr." Nambudripad's website, and at "Dr." Ellen Cutler's website. In my opinion it is perfectly obvious to any intelligent person that both are QUACKS. BTW, neither is a medical doctor - both are chiropractors, and as I understand it, chiropractors are trained in spinal adjustment. Both websites promise "cures" for a huge range of human ailments using their techniques. Both are selling books./p

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pDear TJPJ:/p
pI must strongly agree with the wary and skeptical here: I almost lost my daughter after exposure to a tiny bit of peanut butter at 15 mos. I witnessed her swift and merciless reaction to peanuts and would no sooner chance exposure again than I would teach her to swim by tossing her into a tsunami...I don't want to hurt you, but please don't encourage others to re-expose kids to this allergen...It is lethal, remember? You never mentioned your son being retested for the allergy - has he? Did he get a blood and a scratch test?/p
pWhat were the results? Since you feel so passionately about this treatment for the rest of us, please follow up with those details before we use our children as "guinea pigs". I don't want to sound mean, but you should present us with all the facts before promising miracles, that's all. How would you feel if someone rushed to believe your case and ended up with a fatality? Get your son tested and post the results...and post them again in a year, as Noreen suggested, I think that is a wiser approach./p

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pTo REBGABY who commented that Chiropractors are only trained in Spinal Adjustments. Please be informed that is NOT at all the case. Chiropractors actually take MORE class hours, and go MORE indepth on such important topics as: Anatomy Physiology, Nutrition, The Disease process, to name a few. They have the same amount of schooling as a Medical Dr, and must take a State Licensing exam just like a Medical Dr. As a matter of fact, Nutrition is NOT even a required course for a traditional Medical student. They touch ONLY on the basics of nutrition. I can also tell you that as a Registered Nurse who works on a Daily basis with the Medical establishment, some of the drugs being used to "treat" the person actually has more damaging side effects than the disease process itself. I would say that those who indiscriminately dole out drugs the Physician prescribe to their children are actually doing the same thing they are accusing this other lady of...namely using the children as guinea pigs. There was a huge article in my last years Nursing Journal that stated that the FDA has NOT even established SAFE levels of many commonly prescribed asthma drugs for children!! IT also stated that NO studies have YET been done on their LONG TERM effects on children...Those of you who are so down on this lady for trying an alternative method, have you investigated IN-DEPTH, any of the drugs the physician have prescribed for YOUR children. To Rebgaby: Have you ever looked up the severe long-term effects of Prednisone use? Believe me..I work in a Nursing Home take care of women who are SUFFERING from the effects of long-term use of Prednisone many commonly prescribed Antidepressants. When I was in Nursing School, the first thing the instructor in my Pharmacology class said was: "There is NO such thing as a SAFE drug." Many Physicians don't even warn their patients of the potential of Harmful side effects. They just write out a prescription the gullible public goes out and pops them. Too Many people look up to the Medical DR as though he or she is some type of GOD with all the answers to what ails them. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!! Each every person MUST take responsibility for their OWN health well-being. Part of that is to RESEARCH each every drug your physician prescribes. Also, remember that the medical profession is a FOR PROFIT system. DRUGS ARE BIG MONEY TOO!!! I also grew up around Medical Drs as my Father was a Hospital Commander in the Air Force for almost 30 yrs!! Believe me, some of the biggest quackery I have seen is in the Medical Establishment. We have a joke among ourselves about how the MD has a license to "practice" medicine [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/wink.gif[/img]. I am not saying they are ALL bad, just that you need to take responsibility for your own health well-being./p

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pHi, Rikati./p
pInteresting diatribe. My question is: who invented the Epi-pen? How about anti-histamines? Yes, the so-called 'allopathic' medical establishment./p
pWho was there to save my life (and countless others) during anaphylactic reactions as well as many other emergencies? Yes. Again, the 'traditional' medical establishment. Before you discount medical doctors, please have some sensitivity to the experiences most of us on this board have had. Without MDs, some of us would be dead today. I suppose I'm being blunt, but this is what our allergy is about: avoiding death. Every day of our lives. /p
pYou might not wish to acknowledge other achievements such as the eradication of smallpox and heart surgery, but I certainly do. I don't think that this site is the proper forum for an attack on the doctors who have made life more tolerable for highly allergic individuals. /p
pAnd I notice that you're a nurse. Surely then, you've watched people's lives being saved by doctors and nurses alike. /p
pFYI, my only attempt at alternative medicine saw me react to the 'natural' remedy. If you readily accept anecdotal evidence of 'miracles,' accounts of adverse reactions should be equally valid. Just because a drug or treatment is 'natural' does not make it safe or effective./p
pIt's true enough that there's no 100% safe medical drug. But some come pretty close, and make the quality of people's lives better than they would have otherwise been. In the case of some drugs such as insulin and epinephrine, lives are restored./p

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pAnna: You apparently did not read the LAST sentence of my statement. I NEVER said they are all bad ... read it again you will understand my meaning. I said that ABOVE ALL a person MUST make their health well-being THEIR personal responsibility. That means to educate oneself as MUCH as possible about your disorder and all the Possible treatments so that you are an ACTIVE participant at making an INFORMED decision about your treatment. Why is it that people will not only tolerate .. but participate in knocking alternative therapies but get SO defensive if the negative sides of the Medical Establishment are pointed out. While it is true that many lives are saved by Medicine, I have seen almost as many actually made worse. Alot of times you will see one medicine prescribed to counter-act the side-effects of the first one until the person is on 5 or six different medications. Even the Medical Establishment itself is beginning to take a look at traditional therapies. If you can, go to a library look up the September 1996 issue of LIFE magazine. The title of the issue is: The Healing Revolution, and it states that More More M.D.s are mixing Ancient Medicine New Science to treat everything from the common cold to heart disease. Yes, it is possible to be allergic to anything, including natural remedies but most allergist agree that allergies are due to a faulty immune system, and there are natural ways that do help to boost your immune system. More more professionals are seeing a direct correlation between nutritional habits certain conditions. If we continually assault our bodies with toxic substances, and our immune systems are constantly on guard to try do it's job at defending us against these, it makes sense that the end result of all this will be a weakened immune system. The bottom line is that there needs to be some kind of balanced view on all this. Medicine is NOT the end all, Neither is Natural Medicines. You need to weigh all sides of the issue for YOURSELF. Then you can feel as though you have done all you can, with an open mind to make an informed decision in regards to your own care./p

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pBOTH alternative and modern medicines have their place...however, this NAET treatment (NOT ALL alternative treatments) sounds shady./p
p[This message has been edited by Marielle (edited September 02, 1999).]/p

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pI have tried NAET. The lady showed me how to do it since I have so far to drive. She was very helpful, and it DOES work. I read information for a long time on the internet, and I finally decided it was worth my 40 bucks to try it. What's the harm? My son had asthma attacks everytime he would eat corn products. Corn is in nearly every food you find. She cured my son of corn, and now he can eat pop tarts like his sister and everything else that contains corn. I have never believed in any type of alternative treatments, but I decided my son needed to have something done. 40 bucks versus a lifetime of asthma medications. What would you do? They are not out for the money./p
pI have already cured his chocolate allergy and sodium allergy. I cured my sister's chocolate allergy, also. I must say I feel like a total idiot when I do this procedure, but it is amazing how it works. You actually have to see it to believe it. /p
pI was sitting in the chair with my son when she did the corn treatment on him. Before I went in, I had the attitude that this was definitely going to work. While in the chair, I changed my mind and decided it was a bunch of hokey pokey. I was really depressed about it. But then, she got my sister of in the chair. My sister wouldn't even look at the vials to see what was in them when she tested her. The woman pinpointed everyone of her allergies. I am now a believer./p
pI would go on, but I have to pick my son up from preschool./p
pMary/p

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pI am a practicing NAET doctor and have been doing this technique for over 4 years. The sucesses I have had with this has been incredible. Do I believe I can "cure" everything imaginable? Of course not, however, I feel blessed every day that I was lead to this technique. For all of you sceptics, I can only say this - Follow your heart. If you don't feel comfortable with this technique, don't do it. I just think it is very important that you are made aware of its existence. Someday, you may want to give it a try. I have been a "last resort" for many patients suffering with all kinds of allergies from peanuts to pollen and everything in between. Just remember, if you decide to give this a try, make sure you find a practitioner who follws Dr. Devi's protocol or you won't get your desired results. Oh, and by the way, rebgaby, I have no books to sell and I still believe this technique is the most incredible technique available today. A special thanks to PJTJ for spreading the word./p

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pHi,br /
My son who is allergic to just about everything went to his first appointment at NAET as our last resort. I found it pretty amazing. My son first started sitting in my lap when they started testing him and my arm went right down when they touched it so my husband took over who is big. Each time they would put a vial in my son's hand my husband would say he would fight it but his arm would go down. The only time it wouldn't go down was with sugar and salt in it. My son had his first egg this weekend with no reactions. I was talking to another mother whos son is also allergic to everything and after 3 visits her son is eating McDonalds and just about everything. My son is severely allergic to milk and peanuts and I will be very careful with those. I will not go and give my son a peanut butter sandwich after he has a treatment for the peanuts. I do have an appointment with Dr. Sampson at Mt. Sinani from the FAN conference and I am going to keep my appointment. As matter of fact my son is at his NAET appointment right now with my husband. I just want my son to eat even a cracker or a cookie. They said at NAET by his 2nd birthday which is in November he will be eating his birthday cake. We can only hope!!I told my son's doctor that we were going and he said good, you have nothing to loose. I too, didn't really believe it until I saw it with my son./p

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pHi Jan:/p
pThat's wonderful news! I talked to my chiropractor about NAET and her strongest reservation is that anyone she knows who has undergone the treatments were told they have fifty allergies at least. She underwent a few treatments herself and decided to discontinue when the practitioner told her she was allergic to cotton. (She never had an allergic reaction to cotton before)./p
pMy big curiosity is how much this costs when so many allergies are found and treated. How many sessions has your son undergone and how many more are recommended? Is the practitioner using accupuncture or accupressure on your son? My chiropractor suspects that it is the accupuncture component of the NAET treatment which is providing the cures. /p
pNoreen/p
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pHi Ladies, I continue to read the boards everyday, as I keep learning from all of you. Although peanuts are no longer a threat to us, I still have other allergies to eliminate that plague me everyday. I am 100% better through naet, but my allergies were so numerous it's taking time. Jan, I'm very happy for you. I would like to ask though if your doctor is following the 25 hr. avoidance, this is very important. They say to ask that it is Dr. Devi Nambudripad's method, because like so many other things there are phonies out there! Noreen, I myself was very allergic to cotton. If I wore any cotton clothing I would break out in welts and need benedryl for a couple of days. I was also allergic to polyester and wool! If you were wondering about cost our doctor is $45. for adults and $30. for children. Our insurance covers 70% for my son. only about 50% of mine because of acupunture. The doctor uses accupressure on my son and it has been extremely effective! His asthma is all but gone. They can use acupunture on children who will lie still for the 20 minutes, but my child didn't like the needles. I think he has just been in the hospital too many times and has bad memories. We have a very caring and honest doctor, and I think from talking to others there are many good ones out there. I don't want to try and sell you on anything, but the book from the naet website called "Say Goodbye to Illness" was very fasinating and educational. The more you know about it the easier it is to go through the clearings. Good luck to all and I hope you are as blessed as we were!/p

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pHi Noreen Tj,br /
My son's doctor was trained by Dr.Nambudripad. Yes, we have to wait the 25 hours. When he went back today they retested him for eggs and chicken allergies. They had to do the chicken treatment over but his egg was good. Our son is almost 2 years old so they use the accupressure on him. We live in Connecticut so it costs here $60 a treatment but we have heard other places they were charging $100 a treatment. We feel its worth it after seeing it done and seeing him eat eggs with no reactions. We aren't sure how many treatments yet but I am sure it will be around 40. T.J. your insurance covered your son? I didn't even call but I will tommorow. Today was only his 2nd treatment. My in-laws went with my husband today and they were very impressed with the program. Friday we will be going back for our 3rd treatment so I will keep you posted./p

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pI hate to sound cynical, but if you were allergic to cotton, polyester and wool isn't more likely that you were reacting to a soap or fabric softener as eczema in reaction to laundry products is extremely common? What did your dermatologist say? Did you have any testing done for contact dermatitis? Or any conventional testing for these allergens?/p
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pHello, Yes as a matter of fact I was allergic to my laundry soap, softener, bleach, shampoo, and hair spray. I have been cleared for all of these allergies as well. I have been allergy tested numerous times throughout my life- I'm now 37 yrs. old. As I have gotten older my allergies have increased by big numbers. When I was tested last year I was depressed to learn how many things I was allergic to that I was even unaware of. I do not have eczema or contact dermatitis. I just keep breaking out in hives and/or welts when I come in contact with an allergen.I have seen a dermatologist, who agreed allergies were the source of my problems. As I continue treatments my problem with hives becomes less and less, but there are still chemicals and environmental things to be covered! I am more than 100% better than last year and haven't needed prednizone for almost a year now. I continue with benedryl as needed. I won't complain though this is so much better!/p

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pExcuse me if I find it hard to believe that you are allergic to literally all fabrics and all soaps and personal care products, even though they are all made of different components. /p
pNo one, including "doc" above, has described the etiology of this technique - HOW DOES IT WORK? I understand how antihistimines, prednisone and epinepherene work against histimine, inflammation and shock, I really do. I understand how allergy desensitization shots work too. But I don't understand how NAET works, and no one has explained it yet. I have a vague idea of how the testing is performed, and how, if you can't be there in person, the testing works just as well over the telephone (I'm sure it does), and that your unborn child can be tested "through" you. But what is determined or measured by these tests? And what is the treatment? Is it accupuncture or accupressure? How do those techniques change allergies? No one seems to want to go into the etiology of this "cure". And no one describes what the "cure" consists of. Curious!/p

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pGood question!/p

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pHi rebgaby:/p
pI have no idea how NAET works but I do understand accupuncture as practiced in China. I'm very happy for the people who have had success with NAET but I won't be seeking out a practitioner any time soon. I am, however, intrigued by the accupuncture/accupressure component of the treatments. Accupuncture is especially useful for boosting immunity and treating light auto-immune deficiency disorders. Even flag-flying, pro-Western Medicine-only physicians have acknowledged accupuncture's success with treating immune disorders./p
pAllergy is an over-reaction of the immune system. The immune system of a peanut allergic person is confused about how to process the peanut protein and sends out the entire infantry to counter-attack. Anaphylaxis is a by-product of chemical warfare. A little histamine is okay. Too much histamine in the body causes all the problems associated with anaphylaxis./p
pAh, but you know this already [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]. The filler was provided to somehow follow a curious thought that accupuncture may indeed assist the immune system in righting itself with food allergy. /p
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pNAET is a completely natural, non-invasive, and drug-free holistic treatment. NAET uses chiropractic, kinesiology, and acupunture to permanately desensitize people to all kinds of allergies. NAET is based on viewing the body as made up of pathways for the flow of electromagnetic energy. It is to say the body is a flow of electromagnetic currents. When an allergen enters or comes in contact with the body, there is a clash between the energy field of the allergen and the energy field of the allergy sufferer. The brain identifies the allergen and alerts the immune system which locates tha allergen and responds with antibodies and delayed T and B cells. This causes the release of toxic substances from the T-cells. The fighter cells- macrophages then invade the area intent on digesting the antigens. Immune mediators such as histamine are released. These reactions cause blockages in the electromagnetic pathways, as well as abnormal tissue response, delayed tissue destruction, and possible autoimmune reaction. NAET uses chiropractic techniques to stimulate the areas that are connected to the blockages in the energy system. If a blockage affects a certain organ, the practitioner stimulates areas of the nervous system connected to that organ by autonomic nerve impulses. For example, a wheat allergy might affect the lungs or cause a blockage in the lung meridian, also referred to as the lung channel. To treat for the wheat allergy, the practitioner stimulates areas of the nervous system related to the lungs. by stimulating those areas located along the spine while a person is holding the allergen, the electromagnetic repulsion to that allergen is eliminated and a chemical or enzymatic change occurs neutralizing the immune mediators and interrupting the allergen or antigen-antibody complex reaction. This clears the energy blockage for the area involved and sends a message to the brain stating that wheat has been desensitized. The body no longer identifies wheat as an allergen and energy blockages in response to wheat no longer occur. The desensitization process is not instantaneous, however. It takes two hours for energy to pass through each of the body's twelve energy pathways or meridians. To circulate through all twelve meridians takes twenty-four hours. As a result, a patient should avoid contact with an allergen for twenty-five hours after the treatment to ensure complete desensitization. Otherwise, the effect of the treatment may be lost when the brain identifies the substance as an allergen again. Does this explain now NAET works? Also I have never heard of anyone being tested by way of telephone. You need direct hands on contact! Also acupunture is used on adults, where as childen usually don't lie still for the twenty minute treatment and accupressure is used on them. Which is also equally effective./p

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pThanks for the explanation. This requires that one believe in "unknowable" medical theories suchs as meridians, etc. This is why I personally have a hard time taking it seriously. On one of the websites you mentioned there was a woman who described both getting the diagnosis and the treatment over the telephone. There was also someone who described getting her unborn child diagnosed inside her./p

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pHello everybody,br /
I would just like to share some wonderful news. For the first time in my sons life he has had the pleasure of eating pancakes for breakfast and a pasta salad with mozz. cheese for lunch (hive free). This is all possible because we decided to take a chance with naet. I have nothing to gain by telling you this. I too, once didn't believe it./p

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pYou don't have to "believe" in acupuncture to get results with it, Rebgaby. Acupuncture has been around for thousands of years and doing a marvelous job. Medicine keeps changing opinions on what works and what does not in therapies however, acupuncture has stayed the same over the centuries. It works on children and on animals and they don't know it's supposed to work. So much for the placebo theory. Acupuncture is really the most powerful part of NAET, in my opinion. It is stagnation in the meridians that causes symptoms and diseases, and acupuncture (especially the points used in NAET) rids the body of these stagnations. The medical community is coming around slowly but surely in accepting this form of therapy./p

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pI want to hear from all involved on this thread (or if you have an opinion, knowledge experience etc.). Call the PeanutAllergy.Com phone number 1-(207)-766-5292. We are on EST. (on most days between 9 a.m. and noon is the best time for me to be able to speak with you). If this is not a convenient time for you, e mail me and we can set up a time.br /
I want to hear from you as soon as possible.br /
Please put it on your calendars to remind you to call. We will be working on this again after the Columbus Day weekend, please call again starting Tuesday the 12th. We spoke with many people today regarding this subject./p
pTalk to you soon./p
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Stay Safe/p
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p[This message has been edited by Chris PeanutAllergy Com (edited October 06, 1999).]/p
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pI have some question in regards to neat. I have read the thread and the more I read the more concerned I get. Yes, I have checked out the website. Yes, I have checked out the acupuncture theory. Yes, I understand the need to find help for the PA. Some of my question are....br /
I have read that naet deals with the energy field of the allergen. How does this effect the IgE level in the PA person? The desensitization process is not instantaneous and you have to wait 25 hours after treatment to be completely desensitized. Why is it not instantaneous? If what is being done is desensitizing a person, how long are the treatments and how long will a person have to have treatments?( for Life?) I've been told that the more exposure to peanuts a person has the more deadly it becomes. How does that work in desensitizing a person?br /
How have the theory's been tested?br /
According to DOC the stagnation in the meridians cause symptoms and the acupuncture points used in neat rid the body of these. How has this been tested and document? How does it rid the body of these symptoms?/p
pJust a thought: If a person was having a reaction to Peanuts, would the acupuncture treatment stop the reaction? or would you still need medical treatment? the epi-pen? /p
pSo many question/p

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pDoc, you seem to have misunderstood my post - I didn't say you had to believe in accupuncture for it to work. I also didn't say that it hadn't been around for a long time. This discussion is not about how well acupuncture works on children and animals (BTW you didn't specify what you mean by "works" or what it works on). It is about whether or not the NAET diagnosis and treatment is a valid diagnosis and treatment for peanut allergy./p
pAn "knowable" medical theory is based on hard evidence - things that can be measured, observed, seen, and tested. An "unknowable" medical theory is one based on a belief in something rather than on hard evidence that it exists. You believe that meridians exist - but they have not been seen and there is no objective way to measure them or prove their existence. I'm not saying they do or do not exist - I'm just saying that it is unknowable presently./p

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pWe will be working on this again after the Columbus Day weekend, please call again starting Tuesday the 12th. We spoke with many people today regarding this subject./p
p Talk to you soon./p
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pI'm just curious - did you have to sign some sort of release when you underwent these treatments?/p
pA poster on the Parents Place board was told her daughter/son had been cleared of an egg allergy. The next stop was the ER after eating eggs./p

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pIn answer to your question, no we do not sign any release forms. I've never known any doctor to provide release forms for their office services. I believe as patients, we are responsible for educating ourslves as much as possible. It was well worth the $20.-$25. for the 2 books I have on naet. An educated patient can ask many more questions and learn more about their individualized treatment. In all walks of life there are good and bad. In all professions there are good and bad. It is up to the individual to investigate the person providing a service. Practioners are just that! They are practicing on us. When you have surgery you sign a release. Does this somehow reassure that you will get the best care? I have found a doctor that follows the exact protocol of this procedure. I know this by reading all the information available. I ask questions, and if I were uncomfortable with the answer I would not proceed. We have never had a problem with any allergy clearing. We are always re-tested before trying an allergen, and if the response is not strong, we check for further allergies. Question: Was this person re-tested before trying the allergen? Was the response strong? Did they check to see if the allergy needed to be cleared individually? Say yolks first, Then egg whites? Maybe even chicken? When an allergy is severe you may need more than one clearing. We needed many clearings for the peanut allergy. My son has now tryed peanuts 3 times with no reaction at all! This ia a long way from the former anaphylactic shock he suffered at one time. I only know what has worked for us. I was told this would never go away by western medicine. I now believe when administered properly alternative medicine is very benefical!/p

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pThe brain is NOT involved in analphylactic reactions in the way described by TJ and PJ. These inaccurate descriptions do not lend any credence to this treatment. IgE antibodies directed to the allergen are PREFORMED and are bound to the surface of mast cells and basophils just "waiting" for the allergen to enter the body. That is why the reactions happen so quickly. The immune system isn't confused!!! It could probably be said that the interaction of an antigen with an antibody involves the interaction of two energy fields, but this would not be electromagnetic energy (electromagntic energy includes microwaves, visible light, gamma, X-rays etc). Please don't throw out "technical" terms and use them incorrectly. Delayed T and B cells, there are no such B cells. Delayed Type Hypersentivity (DTH) is an immunological event involving T cells (T-DTH) but this is NOT the same as anaphylaxis./p
pPLEASE INCLUDE LINKS TO THE PEER-REVIEWED ARTICLES SUPPORTING THIS TREATMENT. /p
pI am a great believer in treating the body in a holistic way..... but this sounds like a money-making scam to me. /p
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pEileen,br /
I didn't just throw out "technical terms" incorrectly as you put it. I got the information from the book "Winning the War Against Asthma and Allergies by Dr. Ellen Cutler. Refer to chapter 9, pg.194-196. The information is just as it is in the book. If you think it is incorrect then I would contact those involved with the making of that book. I used their exact words! It is available everywhere!/p

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pWith all the personal respect that is due (i.e. I am not focusing on you, but the ideas that are being brought up), when you quote a book which contains questionable science, you are, in effect, quoting incorrect technical terms. /p
pIf you then present this bad (or non) science in this forum, do not claim surprise at others' valid critiques and tell them to get in touch with the author. This is diversion IMHO./p
pAs I see it, Eileen has the right idea about anaphylaxis. The brain has little or nothing to do with reactions, and 'confusion' is a wholly human linguistic construct, which has nothing to do with the anaphylactic immune system. Bad science should, IMO, be clearly presented as one's belief system, which can neither be proven nor disproven. /p
pScience is that which can be proven and replicated in a tangible way and presented in clear language. Belief has nothing to do with it. Hence the repeated request for peer reviewed journal articles. /p
pFWIW, I have also heard of severe reactions after having been 'cleared' of allergies by supposedly reputable and respected NAET practitioners in local communities. The reason? The subjects must not have 'believed in' the treatment. It couldn't possibly be because the treatment or practitioner were faulty. [img]http://client.ibboards.com/peanutallergy/frown.gif[/img]/p

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pHi Guys,br /
Just wanted to let you know how we are doing with NAET. My son seems to be doing much better. So far he has cleared oranges,raisins,eggs,chicken, milk, and some vitamins. We just had him treated for peanuts on friday. I am not going to give him any until his blood test is clear of it. I just wanted a back up since halloween is coming up. I too, was starting to have second thoughts on this. It just seems to be too good. So we had them treat him for oranges that we knew it could not hurt him. He would get hives around his lips and chin and he was just skin tested for them a couple of months ago, well he cleared them and is drinking orange juice with no problems. He was cleared of milk which is his most severe allergy. I haven't given him straight milk since he was cleared but I give him food that has milk in it and he is doing good with it. I don't know how this works but I am amazed how well he is doing. He is eating so much more. In a few months I am going to get him blood tested again and I do and will still treat him that he has a peanut allergy and always will carry the EPI-PENS with us. I just wanted to let you know how we are doing, life is starting to get a little bit easier since we started going. Jan/p

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