PB Cookie in Fundraising Lunch Package

Posted on: Wed, 10/18/2000 - 2:50pm
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Anonymous (not verified)

Okay, my son has a "peanut free" classroom and this year his school has decided to try to term themselves "Reduce the Risk", which I think is great on their part. Separate from the regular Fundraising Committee, apparently the older children in the school are also allowed to do fundraising things too. They have come up with the Kids Pack from Subway sandwich. I received the notice yesterday in Jesse's knapsack. They have not solidified the deal with Subway yet. I e-mailed Subway last night and received a quick response this morning telling me to contact my local store, which I did. I was told that ALL cookies at this particular Subway (Stayner, Ontario, Canada) are NOT safe, that they either have peanuts in them, may have peanut oil in them, or may be cross-contaminated. I called Jesse's school and spoke with the vice principal and gave her this information. I told her that I felt okay about the Subway sandwiches coming into his classroom but I couldn't feel comfortable with the cookies coming in, especially since his classroom is "peanut free". Fine. She has asked me to provide her with a list of "safe" cookies that the school will buy at IGA and give to the kids in Jesse's class instead of the Subway cookie. No problem. Then, I was sitting thinking and thought, okay, on this particular day in the school, maybe two times a month, all of the classes from JK to Grade 8 other than Jesse's class will be having cookies from Subway, which include peanut butter cookies. Then, I started to worry about residue. For some reason I'm really having a hard time with this one. I want to ask that if the deal is made with Subway for the sandwiches and cookies that PEANUT BUTTER cookies not be allowed. Does that sound okay? Or, if the school is really "Reduce the Risk", should I ask that they re-consider the Subway package, although there are few alternatives in Stayner (they are already getting pizza from Pizza Hut brought in). This went on to question why I feel comfortable even having Jesse eat the Subway sandwich knowing that the cookies are made on the premises and the cross-contamination issue is raised even in regard to his sandwich. We have eaten sandwiches from there, but rarely. So, let's see if I can summarize in question form, what I'm struggling with here and maybe someone can help me.
1. Do I ask them to nix the Subway deal
completely because of the cookies and cross-contamination issue?
2. Do I say the Subway deal is okay except
that they must specify NO PEANUT BUTTER COOKIES?
3. Do I have it stay the way it is, with every other class receiving whatever cookie it is that day knowing that Jesse's class will not be receiving a Subway cookie?
4. Do I let Jesse have the Subway sandwich, given my current(?) comfort zone of eating in a donut shop that also has peanut products in it and that he has had sandwiches from there before or should I be re-thinking and changing my comfort zone before a reaction forces me to?
What do you think? I desperately need some advice because I want to get this sorted as quickly as possible before a deal is struck. The thing that also bugs me about this is that Jesse is required to carry an Agenda book this year that you normally don't start carrying until Grade One and it was specifically for anything related to food being brought into the school, etc., it was supposed to be written into his Agenda so I would know in advance, before a sheet was sent home to parents. I just don't get it sometimes I guess. Thanks so much! Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]


Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 1:15am
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Joined: 12/21/1999 - 09:00

Cindy, I would feel very uncomfortable knowing that the entire school was eating a peanut butter cookie on the same day. My son's school is NOT peanut free (however his classroom is). Saying that, I know that lots of kids have peanut butter everyday. But they don't ALL have it on the same day. I'm also lucky that one of the Mom's in charge of our hot lunch program has a child with a peanut allergy, so when the kids have hot lunch I know things are safe. I'm sure that Subway can make this change. I also would not want the food handler at Subway making the sandwich packages to touch the PB cookie and then my sons sandwich. I would not worry if other cookies were served. I would just make sure my SON didn't have the cookie, (no matter what the flavor). I usually don't respond to any posts except for food and products, so I hope I was clear in my advice. If not I'm sorry.
[This message has been edited by tamisly (edited October 19, 2000).]

Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 1:22am
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Tamisly, your post was perfectly clear! You should be in here posting under different threads and helping more of us out! Best wishes and many thanks! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 1:34am
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Joined: 03/28/2000 - 09:00

You have to go with your gut feeling - comfort zone. Myself, I agree tamisly. I would not feel comfortable with the pb cookies. My daughter has reacted to touching the hands of her sister who ate french fries fried in peanut oil. I would feel comfortable with other cookies - "may contain." The school seems to work well with you, so let them know what your comfort zone is!

Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 2:22am
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So, Jesse's class will have cookies other than the Subway ones. I can ask that they choose from a rather wide variety of other cookies and not allow the pb cookies into the school at all with the Lunch Pack. Now, what about Jesse getting a sub? I've never really worried about cross-contamination issues as
part of my comfort zone, as I explained above, but now I'm wondering if the better judgment on my part would be to not allow him to have the sub because the bread is baked in the same oven as the cookies. I don't want a reaction to occur before I change my comfort zone and I'm wondering, if in this particular case, it would be better to be "safe than sorry", although, as I've said, we have eaten (rarely) subs from Subway and without a problem. So definitely no pb cookies in the school as part of the package. Should he get a sub? Thank-you so much and best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 3:49am
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Joined: 08/22/2000 - 09:00

What you do is your choice. If it were me, I would not let him have the sub at school, even if I might let him have it at home. I don't let my son eat any food at school other than what I send with him. I am much more careful about what he can eat at school b/c I don't want any exposure happening at school, where they might panic, overlook symptoms, wait too long, or otherwise mishandle the situation (in spite of the fact that they have been informed and there are emergency procedures in place). I don't want to count on others to read labels or make judgments about what he can have. I might take him to Subway and watch him like a hawk afterwards, but in a classroom I can't expect the teacher to do that. Anyway, that's why we have the rule he only eats food from home while he's at school. I think it's simpler. I realize not everyone shares this view. I tend to be ultra-conservative about what he can eat when he's away from me and perhaps less restrictive than some other parents about what he can have when he's with me. Good luck!

Posted on: Thu, 10/19/2000 - 4:01am
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Joined: 05/01/2000 - 09:00

OKAY HERE GOES CINDY... [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
There seems to be no reason why Subway can't just not send peanut butter cookies for the whole school. HOWEVER, if the entire school is going to be eating pb cookies, then it is best to just keep him home that day period. WHY? Because it won't make one bit of difference if his class does not receive the cookies the other kids do, it will still be all over the place. In cases like this, I recommend just keeping him home that day. I had to do it when my kids had fieldtrips to Red Lobster, because of the peanut oil and shellfish factor. I wasn't thrilled, but it was easier and less stressful on the children, the school, and myself.
Now, has jesse eaten a subway sub before? My kids have and have done fine with it. They have also had the cookies that were not peanut butter and did fine, but you are in a totally different place than I.
I say, either the whole school does NOT get pb cookies and gets a different one and Jesse gets to eat the sandwich in the class and you provide him with his own special cookie. Other than that, keep him home. Otherwise it will stress him out, could cause social problems for him, and it just doesn't seem worth it.
Some of you may think I have a backing down approach, but, what it comes down to is how Jesse will feel at school. Will he get picked on? Will he feel secluded? Will he feel safe himself? I am looking at not only the physical health well-being here, I am also looking at the psychological well-being.
Hey Cindy...did you ask Jesse what he thinks? He has his own comfort level, I am sure. I'll tell you right now that if it was my boys...they would not feel comfortable being in the school that day.

Posted on: Fri, 10/20/2000 - 4:49am
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I had a telephone message from my son's vice principal to-day. This was in response to a note I had written to her re the pb cookies with this "deal". She said that Jesse's class would be offered "safe" chocolate chip cookies and that the deal they are going to make with Subway is also for chocolate chip cookies only - no other choices. So, I'm feeling a lot better about this. And, I think because I've never been extremely concerned about cross-contamination before (i.e., we go to Dairy Queen, although after I started posting here I became wary of it, we have eaten subs from Subway, we eat in a donut shop that does have peanut products) that I'll probably let Jesse have the sub. MK Ruby, I especially appreciate you looking at this also from the psychological point of view. I think all of us tend to look, naturally, at the physical effects of PA, but as I've posted elsewhere, Jesse's PA has had some effect on him psychologically (i.e., he does not like attention drawn to him because of it, even if it is "positive" attention). I know this week he was bugging me about the milk program they have at school. I have never signed him up for the milk because I always have an abundance of milk at home and send it in with him along with a juice box. Well, I guess he gets to be milk monitor like all the kids do, and he was feeling left out that he didn't get milk from the school. I thought about it and I thought that there are probably going to be things that I will have to deny him food wise from the school because of his PA and decided that he could do the milk program thing. The other reason I never signed him up for that is he always seems to have a cold from now until the Spring and I don't believe in giving the kids milk products when they have a cold. Anyway, I digress, as usual. Kudos to his school still. Thank-you everyone for your advice, it was greatly appreciated because I honestly didn't know how to handle it "properly". Best wishes! [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]

Posted on: Fri, 10/20/2000 - 5:50am
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Joined: 05/01/2000 - 09:00

Totally Cool Cindy!

Posted on: Fri, 10/20/2000 - 6:11am
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MK Ruby, ME TOTALLY COOL? LOL! Best wishes!

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